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Re: Did the west coast slide into the sea?
by Tony Li 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

SEAN(a)SDG.DRA.COM (Sean Donelan) writes: > Two weeks to go before CCIE lab, and I still am pulling my hair out. > How do you configure PUP? You don't. PUP support was removed in 10.1. ;-) Tony

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Re: Internet 1, Backhoe 0
by Roeland M.J. Meyer 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

At 08:00 AM 10/9/98 -1000, scott w wrote: > > >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Harold Willison wrote: > >> I have a pretty good source for custom tshirts.. >> Picture on the front or back? > > >On the back. Pictures on the front are too geeky. >"Let Fiber Live" under the picture? > > >> Any wording on them? If so.. what? > > >Small font size and small caps "nanog" on the front right top, no pocket. I prefer the pocket. I'm not ready to quit smoking yet. ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com>rmeyer(a)mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky

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NANOG 14 MORE HOTEL INFO
by Pam Ciesla 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

The Courtyard by Marriott Downtown is about 1 mile from the Marriott Marquis 404-659-2727. It does have limited rooms available at a lower room rate, however, Saturday, 11/7 is not available. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pam Ciesla 734-936-0172 - phone Merit Network, Inc. 734-647-3185 - fax University of Michigan 4251 Plymouth Road Bldg. I, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Internet 1, Backhoe 0
by George Broadfoot 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

Be sure to check out the fiber cutting Gopher backhoe shirt at www.bizarroland.com George Broadfoot Laser Link Communications 610.566.2993 "The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed Linux." Be sure to check out the fiber cutting Gopher backhoe shirt at www.bizarroland.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Roeland M.J. Meyer Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 12:36 PM To: Dan Foster Cc: Jeff Weisberg; Dan Foster; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Internet 1, Backhoe 0 At 09:55 AM 10/9/98 -0400, Dan Foster wrote: >Hot Diggety! On a bright and sunny day, Jeff Weisberg allegedly said... >> >> [Atlantic County, NJ] While attempting to wreck >> havoc on the world's telecommunications infrastructure, >> a backhoe mistook a gas main as a fiber optic cable. >> The evil yellow beast was destroyed in the resulting >> fireball. > >Now *that*'s poetic justice! Too bad we don't have video of this >happy event :-) > >Now just if we could get those t-shirts with backhoes-targeted-in-gun-sights, >then that'd be 20-30 orders right there, easily. Add five more orders, for MHSC. ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com>rmeyer(a)mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky

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RE: Internet 1, Backhoe 0
by George Broadfoot 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

Be sure to check out the fiber cutting Gopher backhoe shirt at www.bizarroland.com George Broadfoot Laser Link Communications 610.566.2993 "The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed Linux." Be sure to check out the fiber cutting Gopher backhoe shirt at www.bizarroland.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Harold Willison Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 1:13 PM To: Roeland M.J. Meyer Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Internet 1, Backhoe 0 I have a pretty good source for custom tshirts.. I can check into pricing if these shirts arent being made by anyone yet. Whats the tshirt design? Picture on the front or back? Any wording on them? If so.. what? I can have the 'backhoe-targeted-in-gun-sights' picture made this evening sometime. Hmm.. probably will make several different versions and let folks vote on which is the preferred one. Of course, someone could already be doing this, and I could be way behind on this. Seems to me I remember this mentioned a few months back.. >>Now just if we could get those t-shirts with backhoes-targeted-in-gun-sights, >>then that'd be 20-30 orders right there, easily. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Harold Willison AGIS Network Engineering | * Senior Network Engineer 313-730-5151 * | noc(a)agis.net 313-730-1130 x-5649 | | harold(a)agis.net 24 hours a day, 7 days a week | | http://www.agis.net | \*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*/

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Re: Internet 1, Backhoe 0
by Erik Neuenschwander 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

</lurk> Christopher X. Candreva <chris(a)westnet.com>, tearfully said: > >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Jeff Weisberg wrote: > >> [Atlantic County, NJ] While attempting to wreck >> havoc on the world's telecommunications infrastructure, >> a backhoe mistook a gas main as a fiber optic cable. >> The evil yellow beast was destroyed in the resulting >> fireball. > >While this is funny, I really hope the backhoe driver was OK. If you're concerned about the injuries, this is a link to the closest AP story I found. http://www.bergen.com/region/gas0919981009.htm "One worker, whose name was not released, was burned on his right arm, said Patrolman Troy Midgette. Ruggiero said it was a minor burn. ... A backhoe was engulfed in flames at the excavation site ... " <lurk> :) -- Erik Neuenschwander Research Associate, Stanford PTL at CSLI erikn(a)stanford.edu http://pcd.stanford.edu/captology/ eneuens(a)hpl.hp.com http://www.stanford.edu/~erikn/ "No problem can withstand the assault of sustained thinking." - Voltaire

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Sprint folk?
by alex＠nac.net 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

I have a question for Sprint folk, in regards to thier filtering. Let's assume for a moment that I have a /17 assigned to me by ARIN. I am a customer of Savvis (who in turn is a customer of Sprint). I announce this /19 and all is well. Then, lets say that I get a customer, of which I assign a /19 to them from my /17. Lets say the mutli-home between us and another provider. The other provider does *not* have a connection to Sprint as a customer, but as a peer. When my customers' link goes down to me, and they are only connected to the 'net via the other providers connection, with Sprint see that /19 announcement? Can you convinve them to do so? What if my customer had a /20, or /21 instead of a /19? Thanks! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs. October 26-28, 1998, Atlanta, GA. Three days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. http://www.ispf.com/ for information and registration. Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex(a)nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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Re: Exodus (REALLY the last post)
by owen＠DeLong.SJ.CA.US 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

What's the list name? It doesn't seem to accept subscribe without a list name. Owen > During the past week, several of you wrote: > >(lots of comments and rants about Exodus) > > Now... > > I have started a mailing list for Exodus discussion. Information, rants, > problems, service issues, technical announcements, network performance > issues, peering agreements/issues, etc... If you are now or have been or > even plan to be an Exodus customer, please subscribe by sending a message > to: exodus-request(a)garden.net with "subscribe" in the body or visit this > web page: > > http://www.garden.net:81/guest/RemoteListSummary/Exodus > > Hopefully this will do two things: > > 1. End this thread for good. > 2. Provide a useful resource and acceptable forum for people to OPENLY > discuss Exodus. Because of this, subscription is limited to people who do > not have any vested interest in Exodus. No Exodus employees, officers, > directors, stockholders, or counsel please. To the aforementioned group, we > don't know who you are, but remember that this is an OPEN and private > forum. Your subscription implies your complete agreement to hold harmless > all list members for any discussion that may take place. > > -Robert > > > Robert Boyle Server Co-location, > Garden Networks Internet Access, > 50 Diller Ave Development & Consulting > Newton, NJ 07860 (973)300-9211 Ext.103 > 8AM-8PM Mon-Fri EST http://www.garden.net > Quality Internet Connectivity Nationwide > >

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Stratacom BPX 8600 and New Beetle?!?
by Zachary McGibbon 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

Well... We tried the ultimate test today. I drove about 140km with a Stratacom BPX 8600 and power supply in the trunk of my 1998 New Beetle (with the back seat folded down). It was a bit hard to get it, but once in it fit quite nicely and didn't move around since it was so heavy. Now all I have to do is try a 7513... Pictures are available at: http://www.northco.net/~mzac/stratacom/ They're a bit dark, but you can see it... Zachary McGibbon Network Management Specialist UUNET WorldCom mzac(a)uunet.ca http://www.uunet.ca/ Phone: (514)875-0010, Fax: (514)875-5735

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NANOG 14 Hotel
by Pam Ciesla 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

Is sold out. Alternate hotels are: Fairfield Inn-Downtown 175 Piedmont Ave. N.E. 404-688-6518 Residence Inn by Marriott Downtown 134 Peachtree St. 404-522-0950 Both within walking distance (4 blocks). Limited number of rooms available. Both can be reached by 800-228-9290 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pam Ciesla 734-936-0172 - phone Merit Network, Inc. 734-647-3185 - fax University of Michigan 4251 Plymouth Road Bldg. I, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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