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Colocation / Connection to MAE-EAST and MAE-WEST
by Jan Ahrent Czmok 21 Jul '99

21 Jul '99

Hi! Can someone provide me: - Shared / Dedicated access to MAE-EAST and MAE-WEST - Local Loop to our premises - 1/2 rack up to 1 Rack for csu/dsu probably router. Please respond to j.czmok(a)gigabell.net Thanks Jan Czmok p.s.: I am not looking for uplink or transit !!!!! -- Jan Czmok Gigabell AG Senior Network Engineer Mainzer Landstr. 46 Member of IPv6-Forum 60325 Frankfurt Phone: +49 69 17084-716 Fax: +49 69 17084-701

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Telco costs.
by Neil J. McRae 21 Jul '99

21 Jul '99

Slighly off topic my apologies but I'm not sure of a correct venue to ask but, Does anyone know ball park figures for a T1 from 111 8Th to Miami. Sorry don't have actual address in miami I'm just looking for ball park pricing. Neil.

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Re: Telco costs.
by Neil J. McRae 21 Jul '99

21 Jul '99

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:59:13 -0500 (CDT) "Jason Vanick" <jason(a)spruce.oaknet.com> wrote: Jason, Brilliant, thanks muchly for this... > Check out www.telcoexchange.com ... they have a tariffed service calculator > that works extremely well... > > - Jason > Jason Vanick ----------------------------------------------- jason(a)oaknet.com > OAKNET Consulting - Private Internet Consulting and Software Design since '91 > Voice: 708-857-7551 Fax: 708-636-1563 Web: http://www.oaknet.com -- Neil J. McRae -- COLT Internet -- www.COLT.NET ------- jobs(a)COLT.NET ** neil(a)COLT.NET -------------- The Pan European IP Local Area Network ** ** COLT Internet is hiring Network Engineers, Project Administrators ** ** International Travel ----- Excellent Package ------- London Based **

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Re: Toronto bell canada central office fire
by Sean Donelan 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

wb8foz(a)nrk.COM (David Lesher) writes: >a Telephone Company building, with Telephone Company rules and >craft people. Much as I despised dealing with them; they had a >Book and followed it. They wrote their Book after attending the >School of Hard Knocks. It showed. The mistake is assuming there is only one "Book." Even telephone companies make this mistake. There Book isn't always the best way to do some things. There is/was the Book according to Ma Bell (now telcordia). There is/was the Book according to IBM. There is/was the Book according to DoD. There is/was the Book according to USDA (yes, the US Department of Agriculture has a book on how to build a Central Office). There are the (many, many) Books according to ITU/ISO/ANSI/T1. The interesting thing is none of them completely agree with any of the others. You need a good understanding of the assumptions which went into the book. If you plan to put data processing equipment into a facility, Bellcore/Telcordia may not be the best template. If you plan to put a 5ESS into a facility IBM may not be the best template. If you plan to put both into the same facility, things get a bit more interesting. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Interesting for all Ascend CORE Users ...
by Jan Ahrent Czmok 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

Hi! To get further attention of other Ascend/Cascade/Lucent Core Users (e.g. BSTDX-8000/9000 - CBX 550 - and similar) and to get further "tips & tools" everybody is using, i created a mailing-list: ascend-core-users(a)onelist.com Everybody is free to subscribe and to contribute. Jan -- Jan Czmok Gigabell AG Senior Network Engineer Mainzer Landstr. 46 Member of IPv6-Forum 60325 Frankfurt Phone: +49 69 17084-716 Fax: +49 69 17084-701

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OC-12 outage at Mclean,VA
by Tatsuya Kawasaki 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

Apparently there is an outage at MClean, VA to Philly and MCLean, VA to Atlanta. It happened round 12:00pm EST. Tatsuya /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Tatsuya Kawasaki KIVEX.com Unlock the Power of the Internet URL:www.KIVEX.com Phone 301.215.6777 Fax 301.215.5991 /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

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Re: billing for "friendly" name transfer
by Dan Bustillos - Datalink Computer Services 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

Well, Internic does not do credits. As for a name Change you should be able to do an Registrant Name Change Agreement (RNCA). I have done several RNCA's and have never had to pay the 70.00 again. The only problem with a RNCA is that Internic takes forever to process them. Be sure to keep copies as you may need to fax/send it to them many many times. My.02! Thank you, Dan Bustillos Datalink Computer Services (530) 897-6400 (888) 328-4638 ******************* "Error, No Keyboard - Press F1 to continue" Only on a PC would you see this error. Never on my mac.

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double billing for domain names
by Carl Malamud 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

It is with some caution that I post this query to nanog, but I consulted with a colleague who runs a root server and he indicated that this note might be of interest to the readership as it is an operations issue that may affect your users. This note concerns what appears to be systematic double-billing for domain names by NSI. Here's how it works: 1) You work for corporation A and have registered a domain name for several years which has an anniversary date of April 1. Each April 1, you receive a bill for $35. 2) On December 31, you transfer that domain name to corporation B, which pays $70, good for two years. 3) On April 1, corporation B will receive a bill for $35 from NSI, despite the fact that the domain name is paid for a two year period. On December 31, I executed such a transfer for a couple dozen domain names. In early February, I received my first duplicate bill from NSI. I raised a considerable stink and eventually got them to cancel the invoice. Since then, I receive a consistent string of bills, each on the previous anniversary date of the domain names. Each time I've raised a considerable stink, but it is very hard to get the double bills cancelled. The manager of the billing department finally reported it to the NSI engineering team in June, and NSI confirmed that this is a systematic problem in their billing machinery. So, here is my query: Do other people also have these double bills or do your customers have this issue? I suspect that NSI does this on a regular basis and there are a lot of NSI customers that are paying money for domain names they already paid for. If each domain name transfer yields $70 in revenue for NSI (paying for two years) and then yields another $35-$70 in double revenue, this seems like it might be a lot of money. I'd appreciate notes from anybody else who has a similar issue or is aware of people with a similar issue so that I can document it as a systematic practice. Regards, Carl Malamud Invisible Worlds http://invisible.net/

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Re: Toronto bell canada central office fire
by Robert M. Enger 19 Jul '99

19 Jul '99

At 02:37 PM 7/18/99 -0400, you wrote: >This report mentions: > However, no automatic power shutdown systems > are currently available.. >which drags us straight into the comp.risks area. > >Telco systems qualify as ultra-high-reliability and the battery >plant of same is the most basic of those. They spend bigbux$ on >having that -48v there, no matter what. If you now do install a >system that will shut same off, I will bet dollars to donuts it >will false at least once, bringing down an office. > >Where do you draw the line? You draw multiple lines: compartmentalize the facility. Run independently fused/interrupted circuits from the battery stack to each region of the building, at least on a per-floor granularity, if not finer. You install water seals between the floors, and install floor-drains. Then, if a floor needs to be hosed down, the water doesn't leak to the floors below. Using HVAC that is not shared between the compartments is also a good idea. Independent smoke evacuation is needed too. Short of structure damaging explosions, you do your best to minimize the fate sharing between the floors, or between separate compartments on each floor. Cost is the hardest issue to contend with in order to improve the reliability of our centralized communications facilities. Every company wants to reduce costs in order to offer lower prices to attract customers. The large communications facility buildings have become central focus points with enormous fate-sharing (voice, Internet, cell phones, ATM-machines and more all go out at once). However rare the occasion that government intervention is desirable, this may be one of those rare occasions. Perhaps we should encourage our regulators to FORCE improved compartmentalization and survivability in our shared tenant communications facilities. How can you motivate a city/politician? What's in it for them? In much the same way some communities currently crow about their enhanced, modern infrastructures in order to attract new businesses, cities could also crow about having building codes that ensure that the modern infrastructures they have worked so hard to attract can actually be relied upon to function. The politician looks like a hero; and no company is free from the cost burden, so equity is maintained. Bob Enger

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3q99 in-addr audit status
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 19 Jul '99

19 Jul '99

> Hi, > > Past data is at: www.isi.edu/div7/people/bmanning.home/in-addr-audit.html > The run is scheduled to start 01 July 1999. > > -- bill The 3q99 audit is complete. The runtime this quarter was 260.5 hours. Th inital size of the zone has grown while the total number of visable delegations has shrunk. date inital size total zone count 2q1999 120334 708172 3q1999 126856 649331 /8 specifics and other detail will be posted shortly at the above URL. The fourth quarter audit is scheduled to start 01 October 1999. --bill

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