July 1999 - NANOG - lists.nanog.org

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by Dean Anderson 23 Jul '99

23 Jul '99

test please ignore

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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 23 Jul '99

23 Jul '99

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Jul 23 12:00:00 PDT 1999 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to xara.net for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to me. Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html for a daily update of this report. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 23Jul99 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 160799 61126 170799 61270 180799 60986 190799 61251 200799 61293 210799 61468 220799 61453 230799 61494 Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr.plot.html for a plot of the table history. Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 5334 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 2793 (1543 cidr, 1250 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 445 announced by AS701 Largest number of classful routes: 847 announced by AS701 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 23Jul99 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS271 348 145 203 58.3% BCnet Backbone AS2609 122 28 94 77.0% EUnet-TN AS577 281 188 93 33.1% Bell Canada Backbone AS174 573 481 92 16.1% Performance Systems International AS3749 152 63 89 58.6% TECNET AS4293 235 149 86 36.6% IMCI AS7046 320 238 82 25.6% UUNET-CUSTOMER AS1221 505 429 76 15.0% TELSTRA-AS AS7545 141 66 75 53.2% TPG Internet Pty Ltd AS7496 108 34 74 68.5% Power Up AS7657 221 150 71 32.1% The Internet Group Limited AS10928 119 49 70 58.8% UNKNOWN AS4200 167 105 62 37.1% AGIS (Apex Global Information Ser AS6944 63 6 57 90.5% RapidSite, Inc. AS4740 307 252 55 17.9% Ozemail Pty Ltd (ASN-OZEMAIL) AS4755 133 79 54 40.6% Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. India AS9269 73 22 51 69.9% Hong Kong CTI AS719 458 407 51 11.1% LANLINK autonomous system AS684 89 44 45 50.6% Manitoba Regional Network Backbon AS803 78 34 44 56.4% SaskNet Backbone AS549 218 174 44 20.2% ONet Backbone AS2493 112 69 43 38.4% iSTAR Internet, Inc. AS3737 106 68 38 35.8% PenTeleData Inc. (ASN-PTD) AS1785 251 214 37 14.7% NYSERNet Backbone AS1 490 455 35 7.1% BBNPLANET AS701 847 813 34 4.0% Alternet AS10724 42 8 34 81.0% UNKNOWN AS6762 33 2 31 93.9% Telecom Italia international high AS4307 32 1 31 96.9% SVINET-1 AS11515 32 1 31 96.9% UNKNOWN For the rest of the previous weeks gain information please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html 2) Weekly Delta Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report 3) Interesting aggregates Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report

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Something screwy on the net today
by jlewis＠lewis.org 23 Jul '99

23 Jul '99

I'm not sure what's causing it...but I'm getting lots of DUPs back. Anyone else seeing similar things? Hostname %Loss Rcv Snt Best Avg Worst 1. maui.atlantic.net 0% 12 12 1 21 188 2. orldflwcom-br-1-s3-0.atlantic.net 0% 12 12 28 151 367 3. sl-gw3-orl-6-0-1.sprintlink.net 0% 12 12 32 57 110 4. sl-bb11-orl-0-3.sprintlink.net 0% 12 12 27 141 308 5. sl-bb10-fw-4-1.sprintlink.net -266% 44 12 54 160 386 6. sl-bb1-fw-0-0-0.sprintlink.net -275% 44 12 52 179 344 7. 144.228.180.2 -300% 44 11 54 78 130 8. p9-0-0.dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net -300% 44 11 61 196 428 9. p9-0-0.dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net -300% 44 11 51 186 413 10. p4-1.crtntx1-ba2.bbnplanet.net -100% 22 11 121 252 487 11. p1-0.crtntx1-ba1.bbnplanet.net -100% 20 10 121 269 479 12. p3-2.sanjose1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net -100% 20 10 108 266 430 13. p0-0-0.paloalto-cr18.bbnplanet.net -120% 22 10 107 301 533 14. p0-0-0.paloalto-cr18.bbnplanet.net -100% 20 10 119 292 458 15. sty.cisco.com -100% 20 10 161 300 520 16. ftp.cisco.com -80% 18 10 147 283 483 ----don't waste your cpu, crack rc5...www.distributed.net team enzo--- Jon Lewis *jlewis(a)lewis.org*| Spammers will be winnuked or System Administrator | nestea'd...whatever it takes Atlantic Net | to get the job done. _________http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key__________

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AS 1717 and 5511 ?
by Ulf Zimmermann 23 Jul '99

23 Jul '99

While doing some analyzing of traffic, AS paths, etc. I saw very often AS 1717 and 5511. ARIN doesn't show anything for 1717 in the whois database. 5511 shows as being in a block to RIPE. Ripe shows nothing for 5511 or 1717. The address blocks seems to be all routed to Renater.fr, who is also listed as AS1717-MNT. Wonder how many more AS numbers are out there not listed.... -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073

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OUTAGE: worldcom frame-relay intermittent problems
by Sean Donelan 22 Jul '99

22 Jul '99

MCI/Worldcom seems to be have intermittent failures with their frame-relay network. Several ISPs have reported they are seeing problems at very diverse places around the US. MCI/Worldcom is reporting frame switch problems in multiple cities up and down the east coast. Due to usual bizzare MCI/Worldcom ciruit routing, it is having nationwide affects. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Domain Name Payment Policy Change
by Henry R. Linneweh 22 Jul '99

22 Jul '99

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,39578,00.html?pfv Some Internet users will have to start paying registration fees up front for the most popular forms of addresses, the dominant Net registrar said today, one day before its policy of granting credit to its customers is likely to come under attack on Capitol Hill. Henry

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Podunk Telco
by Derek Balling 22 Jul '99

22 Jul '99

OK, interesting question... a friend of mine lives in upstate NY, where he has Citizens Telecom (or whatever they're calling themselves this week). All the Cits'Tel areas used to be GTE until GTE got kicked out by the PUC for poor customer service. Cits Tel has basically ignored the CO he is served out of -- as well as most of their other NY CO's -- when it comes to hardware upgrades. (not even ISDN is available, nor is it predicted to be available for several years). By comparison, he is only 80 miles north of NYC where Bell Atlantic is beginning DSL rollouts. Other BA areas around him can also get ISDN, although not really at anything considered affordable). Leaving for Bell Atlantic (a 7 mile move) is not an option for various reasons. He has mentioned to me, "what if I formed an CLEC/ISP and started leasing dry copper from CitsTel to provide DSL myself?" at which point he was very much over my head in ability to answer. His sole motivation in this is that he wants to be able to get affordable dedicated access himself. :) (If he could make a decent living at it beating CT to the punch, I'm sure that he wouldn't mind that either). D

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Domain dissapearances?
by George Herbert 21 Jul '99

21 Jul '99

I have had one of my domains dissapear (possibly into "on hold" status, but no confirmation/notice from NetSol since I noticed and started complaining on Saturday) from the root servers DNS though it's in whois fine. I have gotten a couple of other reports that people's domains have similarly up and vanished out of DNS without any warning or known cause, with similar lack of response from NetSol so far. Is anyone else seeing a problem pattern here, or is this just a few random minor outages? Anyone else having problems getting NSI to answer their email right now as well? If you know of a serious problem, feel free to reply to the list, but if you have just a minor informational report please email me directly to keep S/N high on the list. I'll summarize such reports if it looks useful later. Thanks! -george william herbert gherbert(a)crl.com Disclaimer: I am not a CRL Employee.

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Response Time Software
by Derrick Bennett 21 Jul '99

21 Jul '99

This may not qualify as completely on topic but I need to tap the vast knowledge of the Nanog group. I am in need of software that can give me response time statistics of our internet access points. We currently have multi-homed connections in various states and utilize proxy servers and socks servers for employee access to the Net. The issue is a need for a way to continously poll various Internet web sites via the proxy servers and socks servers to show average response times over time from various points on the backbone. Is anyone else doing this or have idea on what software may help accomplish this task. Please reply to me in private and I will post a summary message later on. Thanks, Derrick Bennett

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Letter to US Rep. Tom Bliley from Jim Fleming
by Seraphic Artifex 21 Jul '99

21 Jul '99

Because of the recent dicussions regarding ICANN, and the authors prolific history of posts, I thought this might be of interest. -- H.323 SS7 BGP SONET IP | kiad.net | GBR TEB IAD YYZ BOS I am not a / I am the . for which there is no .. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Mr. Tom Bliley U.S. House of Representatives The Committee on Commerce 2125 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 (202) 225-2927 Commerce(a)mail.house.gov Dear Mr. Bliley: I see that you are beginning to hold hearings[1] to look into the activities of the private California non-profit company known as ICANN. I applaud your efforts. I would like to encourage you to look at the ENTIRE landscape when it comes to Internet resource allocations. Domain names are only one part of the DNS puzzle. They are like billboards on the Information Highway. IP Addresses are another key part and IP address allocations are generally controlled by the same people that control domain names. Therefore, they should be part of your oversight effort [2]. IP Addresses are like land along the Information Highway. Companies that own the rights to build on that land prosper and those that do not incur extra costs to operate and are often locked out of bids and other business opportunities because they do not have the resources to compete on a level playing field. This is a very simple case of the "haves" and the "have nots". If your committee does a complete job and looks at IP Address Allocations, it will likely end up in a discussion about the allocations that Jon Postel made to another largely California based company called @Home[3]. I suggest that you start there when you have your hearing(s) with ICANN and ARIN. The discussions about @Home IP Address allocations have been going on for years. People can not seem to ever get clear answers. When the allocation was made by Jon Postel, Paul Mockapetris had left USC/ISI and was working for @Home. Paul Mockapetris was one of the people that helped to design and create the DNS. Paul did not stay at @Home very long, he moved on to start another company. Some people claimed at the time that @Home obtained the addresses because they had $10 million dollars in venture capital and some slick power point slides. Others claimed that this was an experiment to create a commercial IP address registry for the cable TV industry. Milo Medin, CTO for @Home was seen on a popular cable TV show about computers, long after the company was founded, describing how the Internet was born out of X.25 and DOD networking and how important it was that he had been one of those people. Others have noted that it did not hurt to have William Randolph Hearst III as the initial CEO. Still others have pointed out that Colonel Michael St. Johns was apparently one of the U.S. Government DARPA managers that had provided funding for Jon Postel. @Home people involved with ARIN have become very defensive when Michael St. Johns is mentioned, noting that he did not come to @Home until AFTER they were handed IP addresses by Postel. This seems likely because he would have then known that @Home was well supplied with IP addresses to build a successful company, while other companies were being denied allocations by Postel and ARIN. Why would he go to work for a company that did not have IP allocations? Also, it seems likely that @Home would want to reward former U.S. Government employees for the huge allocation of resources obtained from the U.S. Government, at no charge to them. Those resources were leveraged into substantial financial benefits. Some compare it to being given the deed to Yellowstone Park by the USG Park Ranger, Jon Postel. One of the interesting aspects of the @Home allocation is that it shows that a for-profit company can be given internet resources and operate as a registry and become a commercial success that shareholders can invest in. This established a trend of for-profit operations that could have been continued and expanded. Instead, the U.S. Government's Department of Commerce changed direction in 1997 when they actively assisted in the creation of ARIN, a private non-profit Virginia company engaged in one of the same activities that @Home handles, (i.e. registering IP Addresses). What has been confusing to many business people following the @Home, ARIN and ICANN evolution is that there seems to be a trend being set by the U.S. Government Department of Commerce to create non-profit companies where for-profit companies could easily be encouraged, if allowed acccess to the resources as @Home and other companies have been. This trend toward the creation of non-profit companies appears to be inconsistent with the U.S. Government's Internal Revenue Service guidelines which prohibit non-profit companies from engaging in activities normally carried on for-profit. The following inserted reference could not be more clear on this. @@@ http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/prod/bus_info/eo/bl-req.html Exemption Requirements - � 501(c)(6) ... "A business league, in general, is an association of persons having some common business interest, the purpose of which is to promote such common interest and not to engage in a regular business of a kind ordinarily carried on for profit." ... "No part of its net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual and it may not be organized for profit or organized to engage in an activity ordinarily carried on for profit (even if the business is operated on a cooperative basis or produces only sufficient income to be self-sustaining)." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ I look forward to following your committee's work. In my opinion, the need for both ARIN and ICANN need to be evaluated in a light that also brings for-profit companies (like @Home) into the picture. As a capitalist, I prefer to see companies like @Home prosper and go from nothing in 1995 to $11.5 billion dollars in market capitalization with the help of the proper Internet resources which should not be made scarce by some non-profit "societies" who seek to hold the economy back and to discriminate between who gets those resources and who does not. In conclusion, I hope that your committee finds that non-profit companies are totally inappropriate and not in keeping with IRS regulations. I hope that you help to put America back on a track built upon capitalism and not the socialism and communism that pours from these non-profits who claim to doing everyone a favor as they collect taxes and attempt to control which companies succeed and which do not. Jim Fleming U.S. Citizen Naperville, Illinois [1] @@@@@@@@@@ http://www.house.gov/commerce/schedule.htm Thursday, July 22, 1999 11:00 a.m. in 2322 Rayburn House Office Building Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations hearing on Domain Name System Privatization: Is ICANN Out of Control? @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ [2] @@@@@@@@@@ http://www.house.gov/commerce Electronic Commerce: Domain Name System "The National Telecommunications and Information Administration is currently in the process of turning over management of the Domain Name System (the system by which numeric Internet addresses are translated into easy to remember names such as to a newly created non-profit corporation, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). In 1998, the Committee undertook oversight of the establishment of ICANN and the transition from government management to private sector management. The Committee will continue to monitor the transition of the Domain Name System to ensure the stability of the Internet." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ [3] @@@@ http://www.home.net At Home Corporation was incorporated in Delaware on March 25, 1995. Initial Board of Directors: John Doerr, Bruce Ravenel, Larry Romrell, Chris Coles, James Barksdale (Netscape) and William Randolph Hearst III. Initial Public Offering (IPO): 10,350,000 shares on July 11, 1997 Underwriters: Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, Merrill Lynch & Co., Alex Brown &Sons, Inc., and Hambrecht & Quist) Offering Price: $5.25 Recent Stock Price: 45 5/8 Market Capitalization: $11.5 B @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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