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WSTA
by Irwin Lazar 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

FYI: The Wall Street Telecom Association is coordinating available office space and other resources for companies impacted by yesterday's events in NYC. See: http://www.wsta.org/index.pl <http://www.wsta.org/index.pl>

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Re: Analysis from a JHU CS Prof
by Lyndon Nerenberg 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

>>>>> "John" == John Fraizer <nanog(a)Overkill.EnterZone.Net> writes: John> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, David Howe wrote: >> > There are mechanisms in place that would detect this type of >> > behavior. (Prebooking multiple flights for the same >> individual.) Does a domestic flight require a passport or >> other form of positive ID? if not, they could book as many >> tickets as needed with a different name per ticket. John> Yes. Photo identification to get your tickets, period, the John> end. No, not "period, the end." Under US law the only time you are *required* to produce identification is if you are carrying baggage on a flight (14 CFR 108.13(b)). And I recall there is a way around this, as well, although I can't find the reference right now. --lyndon

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RE: More CNN reports...
by Matt Zito 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: rekoil(a)semihuman.com [mailto:rekoil@semihuman.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:28 PM > To: John Fraizer > Cc: Terence; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: More CNN reports... > > > > One question: are there any survivors that made it down to > ground level > from floors above the point of impact? Or were all of those people > trapped in their offices? > > -C > Local news here in NYC had anecdotal reports from people who were above the impacts in at least the first crash (I'm pretty sure - all the stories kind of blend together). I'm not sure about the second crash. Matt -- Matthew J. Zito Systems Engineer Register.com, Inc., 11th Floor, 575 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10018 Ph: 212-798-9205 PGP Key Fingerprint: 4E AC E1 0B BE DD 7D BC D2 06 B2 B0 BF 55 68 99

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Cleveland Help
by Jake Baillie 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Additionally, if anyone needs facilities or help in the Cleveland area, please contact me off-list. We'd be glad to help. -------------------------------- Jake Baillie <jake(a)marinar.com> Senior Network Engineer Marinar 270 E. Main St. Painesville, OH 44077 Phn: 440-354-1458 Mbl: 440-742-0341 Fax: 801-340-4485

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telecommunication in DC
by Tatsuya Kawasaki 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

We seem to have difficulty calling into 202 number. well at least from 301, I tried via cellphone and land line. does anyone notice difficulity? Tatsuya /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Tatsuya Kawasaki Allegiance Telecom Unlock the Power of the Internet http://www.kivex.com Phone 301.215.6777 Fax 301.215.5991 Affiliation given for identification not representation /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

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Re: ABC News mentions Echelon
by Marshall Eubanks 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

> >I just heard this from a commentator on ABC News: > >[US Intelligence] has the ability to "Sweep up all communication going >around the world in a very broad way." > They must be referring to echelon. What's interesting is that ABC news is saying that they have echolon like capabilities in the Continental US. This is much rumoured but always denied and probably technically illegal. Regards Marshall Eubanks >There are currently "millions and millions of phone calls in this vacuum >cleaner." > >"They will be sorting through all of the communications going through phone >numbers that they have an interest in." > >The reporter also mentioned that the officials have to be careful not to >intercept calls of US Citizens. >---------------------------------- > >ObOperationalAndRelevant Link: >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010906/wr/mideast_usa_internet_dc_3.html > >ObAlsoOperationallyRelevant: >http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001303964,00.html > > > > Marshall Eubanks tme(a)21rst-century.com

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Re: Operational Content only please.
by George William Herbert 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Todd Suiter <todd(a)s4r.com> wrote: >Also, the long term repercussions of today's events may well be >staggering for this group, and our industries as a whole. [...] Just a few off the top of my head: 1) Physical risk to facilities This is a nightmare, most of our facilities *suck*. Run an intrusion scenario against anything but the absolute primo colo facilities and you walk right in the door, and the primo ones are vulnerable to mild levels of professional active threat (rocket, bomb, wall breach, etc). There is too much money in some of those buildings to treat this as lazily as we do now. 2) Assured physically separate routing links The current situation is unacceptable. We need to know where our circuits physically go, and when that changes, and have real options for physical routing. 3) Disaster recovery plans for facilities dropped into a hole in the ground My current contract had just deferred a major expansion on this issue. They're in a building clearly identifyable on the San Francisco skyline. I expect this to be a major reassessment starting tomorrow. You, too... 4) Echelon / snooping / crypto privacy issues What sorts of likely issues will we see if there is enhanced government monitoring mandated as a result of this? 5) Services provider load-handling I was chatting with someone at cnn.com throughout the morning. They had to roll literally dozens and dozens of additional servers into service when the hits started rolling in after the incident was reported first. It looks like everyone was able to hold on in both the network and the source provider side... but this needs a careful look for lessons learned. -george william herbert gherbert(a)retro.com

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Re: More CNN reports...
by Barb Dijker 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

At 04:21 PM 9/12/01 +1000, Terence wrote: >Sun Microsystems occupied 2 whole floors of one tower of the WTC. An announcement went out to Sun employees in Colorado that all Sun employees in WTC are accounted for and safe. ...Barb

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List of International Flights Diverted to Canada
by Randy Neals 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Transport Canada Government Web Site http://www.tc.gc.ca/en/CrisisinUS_diverted.htm

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RE: Carnivore
by Roeland Meyer 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

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