June 2011 - NANOG - lists.nanog.org

IPv6 Availability on XO
by Ryan Rawdon 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

I've heard some mixed reports of XO's IPv6 availability - some that they have full deployment/availability, but others like the answer back from our XO reseller that XO does not offer IPv6 on circuits under 45mbit/s. What is the experience of NANOG on this matter, particularly with XO connectivity under 45mbit/s?

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skype
by Randy Bush 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

http://heartbeat.skype.com/ skype has been microsofted already. "small number of users" my ass. probably 7/8 of the users i would see at this time are not on. randy

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UN declares Internet access a "human right"
by Gadi Evron 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

The title is misleading, as this is more about "denying" access. But this is still quite interesting. I don't think this has *any* operational implications, but every operator to see this was immediately worried. I figure it warrants a discussion. http://m.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/internet-a-human-right Gadi.

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Cox outage in Alexandria, Va.
by Andy Ringsmuth 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

One of my employees is reporting that Cox told her a backhoe "cut a main line" somewhere in the Alexandria, Virginia area earlier this morning. More than likely a fiber cut I'd imagine. Apparently it's affecting about 50,000 residential customers and has been down since 5 a.m. Anyone have more info? --- Andy Ringsmuth (402) 304-0083 andyring(a)inebraska.com

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New York World IPv6 Day meetup
by Joly MacFie 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

A reminder: Since World IPv6 Day is based on UTC it will conclude at 8pm EDT. ISOC-NY will present an informal wrap up meetup at NYU starting at 7pm EDT. Among those who have promised to attend will be Sagi Brody of Webair who will give a brief talk on that company’s IPv6 implementation efforts. What: World IPv6 Day – Test Flight post-game meetup When: Wed. June 8, 2011 - 7pm-8.30 pm Where: Courant Institute NYU, Rm 201, 251 Mercer St. NYC Who: Free. Public welcome, especially network admins! Shorturl: http://bit.ly/ipv6daynyc I've had a few RSVPs - so we'll have a quorum. There will be WiFi. We will retire to a bar after. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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ipv6 day quiet period please
by Scott Weeks 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

Based on recent conversations, I hope everyone got their feelings expressed... :-) I would like to ask politely that we stop those conversations (and the other ones we all have fun with (or plonk)) and let the IPv6 day observations/discussions rule the floor when the world's day starts at the international dateline on June 8th. scott

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UN Politics Off Topic
by Jay Ashworth 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

I'm by no means a list admin, but I think we all get along a lot better when, as our mom's taught us, we don't discuss sex, politics or our paychecks with strangers. Please stop, everyone. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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Internap FCP
by Ryan Pugatch 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

Hi, We are currently looking into Internap FCP as we are in the process of redoing our network infrastructure and taking on managing BGP ourselves rather than relying on blended providers. I am interested in hearing about experiences using it. Is the reporting really that good? Does it actually provide value? Or, is there something out there that is better (or should we just continue to plan to manage it ourselves?) Thanks in advance for the info. Ryan

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Google and IPv6 inverse?
by Hank Nussbacher 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Will Google have inverse working by June 8th? [hank@noc ~]$ traceroute6 ipv6.google.com traceroute to ipv6.l.google.com (2a00:1450:8001::68) from 2001:bf8:0:3:202:b3ff:feaf:f3fc, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets 1 2001:bf8:0:3::1 (2001:bf8:0:3::1) 0.407 ms 221.144 ms 5.218 ms 2 2001:bf8:0:b::1 (2001:bf8:0:b::1) 0.559 ms 0.54 ms 0.486 ms 3 iucc-lb1.rt1.fra.de.geant2.net (2001:798:14:10aa::1d) 50.665 ms 50.611 ms 50.567 ms 4 google-gw.rt1.fra.de.geant2.net (2001:798:14:10aa::e) 56.821 ms 50.525 ms 50.486 ms 5 2001:4860::1:0:11 (2001:4860::1:0:11) 51.266 ms 51.106 ms 51.068 ms 6 2001:4860::1:0:4b3 (2001:4860::1:0:4b3) 58.309 ms 58.078 ms 58.442 ms 7 2001:4860::8:0:2db0 (2001:4860::8:0:2db0) 57.174 ms 57.339 ms 57.195 ms 8 2001:4860::2:0:66f (2001:4860::2:0:66f) 72.496 ms 60.803 ms 72.381 ms 9 2001:4860:0:1::1b (2001:4860:0:1::1b) 68.165 ms 62.21 ms 70.3 ms 10 2a00:1450:8001::68 (2a00:1450:8001::68) 61.21 ms 61.862 ms 61.331 ms Thanks, Hank

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re: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human right"
by Nick Olsen 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I've got a 4 inch Springfield XD service model in .45ACP, I actually prefer the .40 round. Its a bit better at inducing Hydrostatic shock just because of its velocity:energy ratio. The handgun just to get me to the bigger guns :D -Nick Olsen ---------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Kirch" <trelane(a)trelane.net> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:42 AM To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human right" nothing like 40 short and wimpy! Might I interest you in a 45? :) On 6/6/2011 11:37 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: > Don't leave the house without my Glock 23 on my side. Truck always has a > loaded 12ga in it. In the house, I've got a handful of pistols and my > SR-556 (AR-15) in the "Guns and servers" closet. > I've had people call me Paranoid more then once. My stance is "Better to > have it and not need it, Then need it and not have it." > By banning guns from a community, Your only taking them out of the hands of > law abiding citizens. Not like most criminals get guns via legal channels > in the first place. > > -Nick Olsen > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Daniel Seagraves" <dseagrav(a)humancapitaldev.com> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human > right" > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks(a)vt.edu wrote: > >> Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is "the right to > rid >> yourself of criminals and despots". A "fundamental right" for citizens > to have >> firearms does *not* automatically follow. Yes, despots usually need to > be >> removed by force. What Ghandi showed was that the force didn't have to > be >> military - there are other types of force that work well too... > I believe that as a law-abiding citizen, I should have the right to be at > least as well-armed as the average criminal. If the average criminal has > access to firearms, then I should have that option as well. I should not be > forced into a disadvantage against criminals by virtue of my compliance > with the law. Once law enforcement is effective enough to prevent the > average criminal from having access to firearms, then the law-abiding > population can be compelled to disarm. This stance can result in an > escalation scenario in which criminals strive to remain better-armed than > their intended victims, but the job of law enforcement is to prevent them > from being successful. > > At present, the average criminal in my area does not have firearms, and so > I do not own one. Gun crime is on the increase, however, so this situation > may change. > >

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