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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

BGP Update Report Interval: 24-Mar-08 -to- 24-Apr-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS9498 98654 1.3% 82.2 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 2 - AS9583 77229 1.0% 65.8 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 3 - AS24731 65871 0.9% 784.2 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) 4 - AS8866 53641 0.7% 175.3 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. 5 - AS8151 49214 0.7% 30.1 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V. 6 - AS2386 47664 0.6% 32.8 -- INS-AS - AT&T Data Communications Services 7 - AS26829 45851 0.6% 45851.0 -- YKK-USA - YKK USA,INC 8 - AS9198 44557 0.6% 100.8 -- KAZTELECOM-AS Kazakhtelecom Corporate Sales Administration 9 - AS17974 41735 0.6% 90.1 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 10 - AS7738 33878 0.5% 114.5 -- Telecomunicacoes da Bahia S.A. 11 - AS6140 33191 0.5% 47.4 -- IMPSAT-USA - ImpSat USA, Inc. 12 - AS7018 33093 0.5% 21.9 -- ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 13 - AS4755 29980 0.4% 18.3 -- VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 14 - AS4795 29286 0.4% 103.1 -- INDOSAT2-ID INDOSATM2 ASN 15 - AS20115 29003 0.4% 23.2 -- CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC - Charter Communications 16 - AS9829 27725 0.4% 41.2 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 17 - AS702 27725 0.4% 49.5 -- AS702 Verizon Business EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 18 - AS17488 26920 0.4% 24.7 -- HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over Cable Internet 19 - AS6306 25525 0.3% 543.1 -- Telcel, C.A 20 - AS11492 23438 0.3% 19.2 -- CABLEONE - CABLE ONE TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS26829 45851 0.6% 45851.0 -- YKK-USA - YKK USA,INC 2 - AS19334 20417 0.3% 20417.0 -- SPORTLINE-DBC - SPORTLINE 3 - AS17487 19317 0.3% 19317.0 -- ICBCASIA-AP Industrial and Commercial Bank 4 - AS19017 15717 0.2% 15717.0 -- QUALCOMM-QWBS-LV - Qualcomm Wireless Business Solutions 5 - AS30929 8794 0.1% 8794.0 -- HUTCB Hidrotechnical Faculty - Technical University 6 - AS42787 22936 0.3% 7645.3 -- MMIP-AS MultiMedia IP Ltd. 7 - AS42923 5870 0.1% 5870.0 -- PLK-AS PLK AS Number 8 - AS44656 4779 0.1% 4779.0 -- HOLOSFIND-ROMANIA HOLOSFIND SRL 9 - AS15136 4576 0.1% 4576.0 -- AS-NSPOF - NSPOF Communications Inc 10 - AS14895 12570 0.2% 4190.0 -- LAWSON-SOFTWARE - Lawson Software 11 - AS23082 17481 0.2% 3496.2 -- MPHI - Michigan Public Health Institute 12 - AS7257 6666 0.1% 3333.0 -- PREMIERE-GLOBAL-SERVICES-INC - Premiere Global Services, Inc. 13 - AS25024 3276 0.0% 3276.0 -- DECEUNINCK-PLASTICS Deceuninck Plastics Autonomous System 14 - AS29225 2590 0.0% 2590.0 -- TAIF-TELCOM-AS JSC TAIF-TELCOM 15 - AS36975 2431 0.0% 2431.0 -- CBA-AS 16 - AS39105 2389 0.0% 2389.0 -- CLASS-AS SC Class Computers And Service SRL 17 - AS28282 2147 0.0% 2147.0 -- DW7 CENTRO DE DADOS LTDA 18 - AS34378 1867 0.0% 1867.0 -- RUG-AS Razgulay Group 19 - AS21291 1788 0.0% 1788.0 -- OMEGABANK 8 Dragatsaniou str 20 - AS9747 13998 0.2% 1749.8 -- EZINTERNET-AS-AP EZInternet Pty Ltd TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 125.23.208.0/20 64352 0.8% AS9498 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 2 - 213.91.175.0/24 45907 0.6% AS8866 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. 3 - 12.108.254.0/24 45851 0.6% AS26829 -- YKK-USA - YKK USA,INC 4 - 221.135.80.0/24 31863 0.4% AS9583 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 5 - 193.33.184.0/23 22880 0.3% AS42787 -- MMIP-AS MultiMedia IP Ltd. 6 - 84.23.96.0/19 20571 0.3% AS24731 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) AS34400 -- ASN-ETTIHADETISALAT Etihad Etisalat 7 - 63.169.11.0/24 20417 0.3% AS19334 -- SPORTLINE-DBC - SPORTLINE 8 - 220.241.83.0/24 19317 0.2% AS17487 -- ICBCASIA-AP Industrial and Commercial Bank 9 - 221.128.192.0/18 18875 0.2% AS18231 -- EXATT-AS-AP Exatt Technologies Private Ltd. 10 - 84.23.100.0/24 17919 0.2% AS24731 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) AS34400 -- ASN-ETTIHADETISALAT Etihad Etisalat 11 - 124.7.192.0/24 16972 0.2% AS9583 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 12 - 64.79.128.0/19 16740 0.2% AS23005 -- SWITCH-COMMUNICATIONS - SWITCH Communications Group LLC 13 - 63.82.84.0/24 15717 0.2% AS19017 -- QUALCOMM-QWBS-LV - Qualcomm Wireless Business Solutions 14 - 203.63.26.0/24 13916 0.2% AS9747 -- EZINTERNET-AS-AP EZInternet Pty Ltd 15 - 81.180.108.0/24 8794 0.1% AS30929 -- HUTCB Hidrotechnical Faculty - Technical University 16 - 89.4.128.0/24 8594 0.1% AS24731 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) 17 - 125.57.60.0/24 8489 0.1% AS18306 -- MASANHANANET-AS-KR HANANET 18 - 89.4.130.0/24 8216 0.1% AS24731 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) 19 - 89.4.131.0/24 8053 0.1% AS24731 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) 20 - 203.101.87.0/24 7654 0.1% AS9498 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

This report has been generated at Fri Apr 25 21:19:56 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 18-04-08 257852 164160 19-04-08 258035 163068 20-04-08 257852 163238 21-04-08 257993 164204 22-04-08 258148 164164 23-04-08 258324 164611 24-04-08 258585 163990 25-04-08 258634 164963 AS Summary 28182 Number of ASes in routing system 11885 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1614 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS4755 : VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 88502016 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS721 : DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 25Apr08 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 258735 164762 93973 36.3% All ASes AS4755 1614 219 1395 86.4% VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System AS6389 1385 216 1169 84.4% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. AS9498 1165 68 1097 94.2% BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. AS22773 934 99 835 89.4% CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. AS11492 1214 469 745 61.4% CABLEONE - CABLE ONE AS19262 899 185 714 79.4% VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon Internet Services Inc. AS4323 1417 717 700 49.4% TWTC - Time Warner Telecom, Inc. AS1785 1011 318 693 68.5% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. AS17488 1060 382 678 64.0% HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over Cable Internet AS8151 1188 512 676 56.9% Uninet S.A. de C.V. AS18566 1043 393 650 62.3% COVAD - Covad Communications Co. AS18101 678 120 558 82.3% RIL-IDC Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet Data Centre, AS6478 925 380 545 58.9% ATT-INTERNET3 - AT&T WorldNet Services AS2386 1400 879 521 37.2% INS-AS - AT&T Data Communications Services AS6197 989 517 472 47.7% BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS4766 851 393 458 53.8% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS19916 555 99 456 82.2% ASTRUM-0001 - OLM LLC AS855 650 198 452 69.5% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant AS22047 562 124 438 77.9% VTR BANDA ANCHA S.A. AS7018 1426 1019 407 28.5% ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services AS8103 569 166 403 70.8% STATE-OF-FLA - Florida Department of Management Services - Technology Program AS4812 484 82 402 83.1% CHINANET-SH-AP China Telecom (Group) AS17676 508 106 402 79.1% GIGAINFRA BB TECHNOLOGY Corp. AS5668 684 295 389 56.9% AS-5668 - CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. AS7011 1096 710 386 35.2% FRONTIER-AND-CITIZENS - Frontier Communications of America, Inc. AS9443 455 78 377 82.9% INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications AS3602 453 78 375 82.8% AS3602-RTI - Rogers Telecom Inc. AS6140 585 214 371 63.4% IMPSAT-USA - ImpSat USA, Inc. AS16814 426 64 362 85.0% NSS S.A. AS4808 517 157 360 69.6% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network Total 26743 9257 17486 65.4% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.38.0.0/17 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.48.0.0/13 AS19548 ADELPHIA-AS2 - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.51.159.0/24 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.54.224.0/19 AS20001 ROADRUNNER-WEST - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.75.160.0/19 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.75.192.0/18 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.142.40.0/21 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.142.160.0/19 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.0.0/17 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 62.61.220.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV - Wireless Broadband via Satellite 63.140.213.0/24 AS22555 UTC - Universal Talkware Corporation 63.141.42.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 63.143.71.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 63.143.115.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 63.143.251.0/24 AS22555 UTC - Universal Talkware Corporation 63.248.0.0/16 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 64.7.112.0/21 AS6453 GLOBEINTERNET TATA Communications 64.7.120.0/21 AS6453 GLOBEINTERNET TATA Communications 64.50.128.0/18 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc. 64.64.159.0/24 AS32004 BIG-ASN - Business Information Group, Inc. 64.144.0.0/15 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc. 64.188.0.0/16 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 65.36.8.0/24 AS5696 65.36.9.0/24 AS5696 65.36.33.0/24 AS5696 65.36.52.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 66.11.32.0/20 AS6261 VISINET - Visionary Systems, Inc. 66.11.40.0/21 AS6261 VISINET - Visionary Systems, Inc. 66.54.91.0/24 AS30506 BLACKSUN-1 - Blacksun Technologies LLC 66.55.160.0/19 AS29994 66.64.96.0/20 AS3790 RADIGRAFICA COSTARRICENSE 66.180.239.0/24 AS35888 VIGNETTE - VIGNETTE CORPORATION 66.199.32.0/20 AS10397 WISP-AS - Wispnet, LLC 66.206.32.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.33.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.34.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.35.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.40.0/22 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 66.206.44.0/23 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 66.206.47.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 66.207.32.0/20 AS23011 66.219.192.0/18 AS5048 FIBER - FIBERNET Corp. 67.20.0.0/14 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 67.22.64.0/21 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 68.64.0.0/13 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 68.64.58.0/24 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 68.168.0.0/14 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 68.232.0.0/14 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 69.71.192.0/20 AS13818 PHX-INTL-TELEPORT - Phoenix International Teleport 69.80.0.0/17 AS3043 AMPHIB-AS - Amphibian Media Corporation 69.160.0.0/12 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 69.169.0.0/17 AS20001 ROADRUNNER-WEST - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 70.32.0.0/13 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 80.88.0.0/21 AS33774 DJAWEB 80.88.8.0/22 AS33774 DJAWEB 80.88.10.0/24 AS33774 DJAWEB 80.88.11.0/24 AS33774 DJAWEB 80.88.12.0/24 AS33779 wataniya-telecom-as 93.90.224.0/20 AS25086 URALTC-AS UTC AUTONOMUS SYSTEM EKATERINBURG, RUSSIA 95.192.0.0/16 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS project 95.255.248.0/21 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS project 137.0.0.0/13 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 151.135.0.0/16 AS4768 CLIX-NZ TelstraClear Ltd 159.3.211.0/24 AS2687 ASATTCA AT&T Global Network Services - AP 163.142.0.0/16 AS2500 WIDE-BB WIDE Project 166.63.0.0/16 AS33775 NITEL-AS 172.10.1.0/30 AS18305 POSNET POSDATA Co.,Ltd 192.9.200.0/24 AS3602 AS3602-RTI - Rogers Telecom Inc. 192.30.93.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.94.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.40.105.0/24 AS12582 TSF-DATANET-NGD-AS TSF MPLS VPN Services 192.64.85.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.69.107.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.69.108.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.69.177.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.70.164.0/24 AS25689 NRCNET-AS - National Research Council of Canada 192.96.36.0/24 AS5713 SAIX-NET 192.96.37.0/24 AS10474 NETACTIVE 192.96.135.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.136.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.141.0/24 AS5713 SAIX-NET 192.96.143.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.145.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.177.0/24 AS6083 POSIX-AFRICA 192.101.45.0/24 AS2905 TICSA-ASN 192.101.46.0/24 AS6503 Avantel, S.A. 192.101.47.0/24 AS6503 Avantel, S.A. 192.101.64.0/21 AS702 AS702 Verizon Business EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.101.67.0/24 AS21775 192.101.70.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 192.101.71.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 192.101.72.0/24 AS702 AS702 Verizon Business EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.101.73.0/24 AS4765 WORLDNET-AS World Net & Services Co., Ltd. 192.101.74.0/24 AS1239 SPRINTLINK - Sprint 192.122.212.0/24 AS209 ASN-QWEST - Qwest 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN-IP service 192.131.233.0/24 AS7891 BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK2 - Bellsouth.Net 192.133.6.0/24 AS10282 EQUANT-CEEUR EQUANT AS for Central and Eastern Europe region 192.153.144.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 192.188.208.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 193.200.114.0/23 AS31530 SERVERCREW-AS Servercrew LTD Autonomes System 194.31.227.0/24 AS21461 TRANSFAIRNET Transfair-net GmbH Krefeld 194.246.72.0/23 AS8893 ARTFILES-AS Artfiles New Media GmbH 195.190.3.0/24 AS35393 EURO-WEB-AS Euro Web Network 195.190.5.0/24 AS35830 SIVIT-AS SIVIT Network - http://www.sivit.net/ 196.6.108.0/24 AS5713 SAIX-NET 196.10.119.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.122.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.251.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.252.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.254.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.101.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.102.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.104.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.121.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.125.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.126.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.169.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.174.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.176.0/21 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.192.0/22 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.196.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.201.98.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS 196.216.132.0/24 AS9207 TAIDE-KE-NAIROBI Taide - Kenya POP 196.216.134.0/24 AS9207 TAIDE-KE-NAIROBI Taide - Kenya POP 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM - Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.54.82.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 198.54.92.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 198.54.222.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 198.97.72.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.80.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.96.0/19 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.240.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.144.96.0/20 AS12185 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GT-BELL - Bell Canada 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INTERHOP - Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASKTEL - Saskatchewan Telecommunications 198.180.198.0/24 AS23715 SEOUL-INTGW-GXS-AP Global Exchange Services 199.9.128.0/17 AS668 ASN-ASNET-NET-AS - Defense Research and Engineering Network 199.10.0.0/16 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.0.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.128.0/18 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.130.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.131.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.134.0/24 AS3541 ITSDN-U4 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.136.0/24 AS27044 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.138.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 ITSDN-U7 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.142.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS27033 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.153.0/24 AS27034 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.121.0.0/16 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.0.0/18 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.16.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.80.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST-AS - IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 199.246.116.0/24 AS813 UUNET-CANADA - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 202.45.132.0/22 AS24314 202.58.113.0/24 AS19161 INNOCOM-TELECOM - INNOCOM TELECOM 202.73.144.0/20 AS4788 TMNET-AS-AP TM Net, Internet Service Provider 202.86.252.0/22 AS4748 RESOLINK-AS-AP Resources Link Network Limited 202.86.252.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.253.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.254.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.255.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.90.33.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.40.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.41.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.42.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.43.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.44.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.94.1.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network 202.94.70.0/24 AS9837 POWERTEL-AP Powertel Ltd 202.124.195.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.124.207.0/24 AS17911 BRAINPK-AS-AP Brain Telecommunication Ltd. 202.136.254.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network 202.136.255.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network 202.164.100.0/24 AS18101 RIL-IDC Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet Data Centre, 202.176.228.0/24 AS17988 SINOSAT-AS-AP SINOSAT (HONG KONG) LIMITED 202.176.232.0/24 AS17988 SINOSAT-AS-AP SINOSAT (HONG KONG) LIMITED 202.181.32.0/24 AS4645 ASN-HKNET-AP HKNet Co. Ltd 203.2.128.0/17 AS17175 NSS-UK New Skies Satellites UK AS 203.12.45.0/24 AS4854 NETSPACE-AS-AP Netspace Online Systems 203.62.0.0/17 AS7575 AARNET-AS-AP Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.78.48.0/20 AS9299 IPG-AS-AP Philippine Long Distance Telephone Company 203.89.139.0/24 AS17911 BRAINPK-AS-AP Brain Telecommunication Ltd. 203.111.192.0/20 AS7473 SINGTEL-AS-AP Singapore Telecom 203.112.97.0/24 AS9942 COMINDICO-AP SOUL Converged Communications Australia 203.112.111.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.113.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.114.0/24 AS4802 ASN-IINET iiNet Limited 203.112.116.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.117.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.118.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.119.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.120.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.121.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.127.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.128.128.0/19 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 203.128.128.0/24 AS23849 CNNIC-NET263-AP Beijing Capital-online science development Co.,Ltd. 203.152.136.0/23 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.152.138.0/23 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.152.142.0/24 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.152.143.0/24 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.160.110.0/23 AS7643 VNN-AS-AP Vietnam Posts and Telecommunications (VNPT) 204.9.216.0/23 AS7893 BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK2 - Bellsouth.Net 204.9.217.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - Time Warner Telecom, Inc. 204.9.218.0/23 AS7893 BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK2 - Bellsouth.Net 204.13.140.0/22 AS7270 NET2PHONE - Net2Phone Corp. 204.16.120.0/23 AS12077 204.16.122.0/23 AS12077 204.19.14.0/23 AS577 BACOM - Bell Canada 204.48.58.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - Time Warner Telecom, Inc. 204.48.60.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - Time Warner Telecom, Inc. 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 206.28.176.0/21 AS1273 CW Cable and Wireless plc 206.162.224.0/19 AS23464 ILCSNET - Interlink Computer Services 206.180.240.0/20 AS12083 KNOLOGY-NET - Knology Holdings 206.220.240.0/24 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.240.64/26 AS22335 MREN - Metropolitan Research and Education Network 206.220.240.128/25 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.240.160/30 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.240.220/32 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.241.0/24 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 207.98.192.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 207.98.209.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 207.98.223.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 207.191.128.0/19 AS10887 BPSI-AS - BPSI Internet Services 207.204.168.0/24 AS15150 BELLTECH-AS - BELLWETHER TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION 207.204.222.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA - NuNet Inc. 207.254.192.0/19 AS11881 208.38.192.0/18 AS3043 AMPHIB-AS - Amphibian Media Corporation 208.38.192.0/21 AS14237 BEAMSPEED1 - Beamspeed 208.38.202.0/24 AS14237 BEAMSPEED1 - Beamspeed 208.38.203.0/24 AS14237 BEAMSPEED1 - 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Beamspeed 209.207.24.0/24 AS21829 JADETECH-NET - Jade Technologies, Inc. 209.207.36.0/24 AS21829 JADETECH-NET - Jade Technologies, Inc. 210.5.128.0/20 AS4837 CHINA169-BACKBONE CNCGROUP China169 Backbone 213.150.192.0/21 AS29571 CITelecom-AS 213.150.200.0/22 AS29571 CITelecom-AS 213.150.201.0/24 AS29338 AFOL-AS Used by Africaonline Operations 213.150.202.0/24 AS41042 SKYVISION SkyVision Network Services 216.37.114.0/23 AS3549 GBLX Global Crossing Ltd. 216.37.120.0/23 AS13377 216.59.0.0/17 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.99.16.0/24 AS6395 LVLT-6395 - Level 3 Communications, Inc. 216.99.20.0/24 AS6395 LVLT-6395 - Level 3 Communications, Inc. 216.119.128.0/24 AS14345 CRESCENT-TECH - Crescent Technology 216.119.131.0/24 AS14345 CRESCENT-TECH - Crescent Technology 216.119.141.0/24 AS14345 CRESCENT-TECH - Crescent Technology 216.162.96.0/19 AS7393 CYBERCON - CYBERCON, INC. 216.172.198.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 216.172.199.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 216.210.86.0/24 AS577 BACOM - Bell Canada 216.235.96.0/19 AS13645 BROADBANDONE - BroadbandONE, Inc. 216.240.240.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.240.241.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.240.242.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.251.207.0/24 AS1239 SPRINTLINK - Sprint 217.78.71.0/24 AS12491 IPPLANET-AS IPPlanet 217.78.72.0/24 AS12491 IPPLANET-AS IPPlanet 217.78.73.0/24 AS12491 IPPLANET-AS IPPlanet Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Erik Aran/SW/MTY/TELINOR is out of the office.
by earan＠axtel.com.mx 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

I will be out of the office starting 23/04/2008 and will not return until 12/05/2008. Estoy fuera de la ciudad para cualquier cuestion de Conectividad de Dx, Favor de contactar a Javier Rios al 81298278 o Ricardo Sanches ext 8111 _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Re: [NANOG] Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost.WOW
by Scott Weeks 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

--- patrick(a)ianai.net wrote: From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick(a)ianai.net> Perhaps we should have a list rule that anyone silly enough to be infected and spew spam gets their posting privs removed until they beg forgiveness? ------------------------------------ Publicly! >;-) scott ------------ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Never seen before! Gucci Prada Chanel, Bally, Dsquared, Sold for less than cost�WOW
by nanog＠nanog.org 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Ladies and Gentlemen, Get Ready for.. Thought I would let you know about the Fashion Footwear SPRING Sale! Men and Women Designer Shoes, Heels, Sandals and Boots, All Half-OFF, Buy Direct, Forget Department Store Prices, Get Exclusive 2008 D&G, Gucci, Versace, Prada, Chanel, Christian Dior, Dsquared, Uggs and More! FREE International Shipping on all Orders! http://cvamedios.com/sale/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] attempt to capture nominet board
by Neil J. McRae 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Yes strongly agreed and Randy thanks for raising this here. -----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> Sent: 24 April 2008 11:30 To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog(a)merit.edu> Subject: [Nanog] attempt to capture nominet board dear uk sisters, brothers, and undecideds, if you are a nomintet voting member or know someone who is, i strongly encourage you to read these two documents, <http://www.nominet.org.uk/governance/board/election/> and particularly <http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/28780_call_to_action_letter_web.pdf>, and to vote the candidates running against the greedy domainer slime trying to capture nominet. thanks for listening. randy _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Comcast (AS 7922 -> 33491) issues?
by Darrell Hyde 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

I'm seeing tons of availability issues to networks with AS paths ending in "7922 33491". A couple of the prefixes in question are 98.214.0.0/15, 69.137.240.0/20, 73.117.0.0/16, and 67.175.0.0/16. I spoke with Abovenet earlier this morning - they say its due to L3 suppressing those announcements to some of their peers. Initially I thought they were just making things up, until I started seeing "% Network not in table" responses to BGP lookups on the router where I peer with Sprint: #show ip bgp 98.214.184.18 % Network not in table #show ip bgp 69.137.251.134 % Network not in table And yet... #show ip bgp 98.214.184.18 BGP routing table entry for 98.214.0.0/15, version 26493985 Paths: (2 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Advertised to update-groups: 3 4 3491 7922 33491 63.218.31.1 from 63.218.31.1 (63.218.30.9) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 228787176 228787177 228794098 6395 3356 7922 33491 216.140.65.73 from 216.140.65.73 (216.140.9.56) Origin IGP, metric 160, localpref 100, valid, external #show ip bgp 69.137.251.134 BGP routing table entry for 69.137.240.0/20, version 26493909 Paths: (2 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Advertised to update-groups: 3 4 3491 7922 33491 63.218.31.1 from 63.218.31.1 (63.218.30.9) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 228787176 228787177 228794098 6395 3356 7922 33491 216.140.65.73 from 216.140.65.73 (216.140.9.56) Origin IGP, metric 160, localpref 100, valid, external Based on what I'm seeing, someone out there has to be seeing similar behavior. Anybody? Bueller? D. _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Re: [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]
by Laird Popkin 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

I would certainly view the two strategies (reverse engineering network information and getting ISP-provided network information) as being complimentary. As you point out, for any ISP that doesn't provide network data, we're better off figuring out what we can to be smarter than 'random'. So while I prefer getting better data from ISP's, that's not holding us back from doing what we can without that data. ISP's have been very clear that they regard their network maps as being proprietary for many good reasons. The approach that P4P takes is to have an intermediate server (which we call an iTracker) that processes the network maps and provides abstracted guidance (lists of IP prefixes and percentages) to the p2p networks that allows them to figure out which peers are near each other. The iTracker can be run by the ISP or by a trusted third party, as the ISP prefers. - Laird Popkin, CTO, Pando Networks mobile: 646/465-0570 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists(a)gmail.com> To: "Laird Popkin" <laird(a)pando.com> Cc: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell(a)gmail.com>, "Doug Pasko" <doug.pasko(a)verizon.com>, nanog(a)nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:14:12 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: P2P traffic optimization Was: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Laird Popkin <laird(a)pando.com> wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Alexander Harrowell > > <a.harrowell(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Christopher Morrow > > > <christopher.morrow(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It strikes me that often just doing a reverse lookup on the peer > > > > address would be 'good enough' to keep things more 'local' in a > > > > network sense. Something like: > > > > > > > > 1) prefer peers with PTR's like mine (perhaps get address from a > > > > public-ish server - myipaddress.com/ipchicken.com/dshield.org) > > > > 2) prefer peers within my /24->/16 ? > > > > > > > > This does depend on what you define as 'local' as well, 'stay off my > > > > transit links' or 'stay off my last-mile' or 'stay off that godawful > > > > expensive VZ link from CHI to NYC in my backhaul network... > > > > > > > > > > Well. here's your problem; depending on the architecture, the IP > addressing > > > structure doesn't necessarily map to the network's cost structure. This > is > > > why I prefer the P4P/DillTorrent announcement model. > > > > > > > > > > sure 80/20 rule... less complexity in the clients and some benefit(s). > > perhaps short term something like the above with longer term more > > realtime info about locality. > > > > For the applications, it's a lot less work to use a clean network map from > ISP's than it is to in effect derive one from lookups to ASN, /24, /16, > pings, traceroutes, etc. The main reason to spend the effort to implement > those tactics is that it's better than not doing anything. :-) > so.. 'not doing anything' may or may not be a good plan.. bittorrent works fine today(tm). On the other hand, asking network folks to turn over 'state secrets' (yes some folks, including doug's company) believe that their network diagrams/designs/paths are in some way 'secret' or a 'competitive advantage', so that will be a blocking factor. While, doing simple/easy things initially (most bittorrent things I've seen have <50 peers certainly there are more in some cases, but average? > or < than 100? so dns lookups or bit-wise comparisons seem cheap and easy) that get the progress going seems like a grand plan. Being blocked for the 100% solution and not making progress/showing-benefit seems bad :( -Chris _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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isotf.org / outages
by Matthew Walker 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Can someone please recommend an alternate outages list, as it appears isoft.org is no longer functional. Thank You. _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Re: [NANOG] P2P traffic optimization Was: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]
by Laird Popkin 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Replies below: - Laird Popkin, CTO, Pando Networks mobile: 646/465-0570 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists(a)gmail.com> To: "Laird Popkin" <laird(a)pando.com> Cc: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell(a)gmail.com>, "Doug Pasko" <doug.pasko(a)verizon.com>, nanog(a)nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:47:57 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: P2P traffic optimization Was: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Laird Popkin <laird(a)pando.com> wrote: > I would certainly view the two strategies (reverse engineering network information and getting ISP- > provided network information) as being complimentary. As you point out, for any ISP that doesn't > provide network data, we're better off figuring out what we can to be smarter than 'random'. So while I > prefer getting better data from ISP's, that's not holding us back from doing what we can without that > data. ok, sounds better :) or more reasonable, or not immediately doomed to blockage :) 'more realistic' even. - Thanks. Given that there are many thousands of ISP's, an incremental approach seemed best. :-) > ISP's have been very clear that they regard their network maps as being proprietary for many good > reasons. The approach that P4P takes is to have an intermediate server (which we call an iTracker) > that processes the network maps and provides abstracted guidance (lists of IP prefixes and > percentages) to the p2p networks that allows them to figure out which peers are near each other. The > iTracker can be run by the ISP or by a trusted third party, as the ISP prefers. What's to keep the itracker from being the new 'napster megaserver'? I suppose if it just trades map info or lookup (ala dns lookups) and nothing about torrent/share content things are less sensitive from a privacy perspective. and a single point of failure of the network perspective. - That's a good point. The iTracker never knows what's moving in the P2P network. We are comparing two recommendation models, which expose different levels of information. In the 'general' model, the iTracker knows nothing about the p2p network, but provides a recommendation matrix based purely on the ISP's network resources and policies. In the 'per torrent' model, the iTracker receives information about peer distribution (e.g. there are many seeds in NYC, and many downloaders in Chicago), in which case it can make peering recommendations based on that knowledge. The latter approach seems like it should be better able to 'tune' communications (to reduce maximum link utilization, etc.), but it requires the p2p network to provide real-time information about swarm distribution, which involves more communications, and exposes more details of the network to the iTracker, raising some privacy concerns. Admittedly the iTracker doesn't know what the swarm is delivering, but it would know (in network terms) where the users in that swarm are, for example. Latency requirements seem to be interesting for this as well... at least dependent upon the model for sharing of the mapping data. I'd think that a lookup model served the client base better (instead of downloading many large files of maps in order to determine the best peers to use). There's also a sensitivity to the part of the network graph and which perspective to use for the client -> peer locality mapping. - The network data is loaded into the p2p networks's Tracker, and used locally there, so there's no external communications during normal p2p network operation. The communication pattern in P4P (current, at any rate - it's still evolving) is that the P2P network's Tracker polls the P4P iTracker periodically to receive updated map files. In the case of the 'general' weight map, it could be one update every few minutes (or every day, etc., depending on how often the ISP cares to update network information). In the case of 'per torrent' optimization, it's an update per swarm every few minutes, which is much more messaging, so it might only make sense to do this for a very small number of the most popular swarms. It's interesting at least :) Thanks! -Chris (also, as an aside, your mail client seems to be making each paragraph one long unbroken line... which drives at least pine and gmail a bit bonkers...and makes quoting messages a much more manual process than it should be.) - Sorry - I reconfigured to send 'plain text' email. Does it show up OK? I'm using Zimbra's web mail interface. _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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