February 2004 - NANOG - lists.nanog.org

RE: M$ CD patches
by Michel Py 21 Feb '04

21 Feb '04

I wonder how many will install worms and viruses from a CD that they got not from Microsoft but from phishing schemes that will inevitably pop up around it..... Michel. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of David Lesher Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:45 PM To: nanog list Subject: M$ CD patches http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3314501 In a bid to target a security hurdle rampant with dial-up Internet users, Microsoft has rolled out a security update CD giveaway for users of Windows XP, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 98 Second Edition (SE). The Windows Security Update CD will ship with all of its "critical" patches released by the software giant through October 2003 and free anti-virus and firewall trial software. .... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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M$ CD patches
by David Lesher 21 Feb '04

21 Feb '04

http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3314501 In a bid to target a security hurdle rampant with dial-up Internet users, Microsoft has rolled out a security update CD giveaway for users of Windows XP, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 98 Second Edition (SE). The Windows Security Update CD will ship with all of its "critical" patches released by the software giant through October 2003 and free anti-virus and firewall trial software. .... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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PAIX Palo-Alto
by Andre Chapuis 21 Feb '04

21 Feb '04

Anybody else having problems over the PAIX Palo-Alto LAN ? Cheers, André -------------------------------------------------------- Andre Chapuis IP+ Backbone Engineering AS3303 Swisscom Enterprise Solutions Ltd Genfergasse 14, CH-3050 Bern +41 31 893 89 61 chapuis(a)ip-plus.net CCIE #6023 --------------------------------------------------------

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RouteScience PathControl vs. Radware Linkproof
by Dave Temkin 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Looking for anyone who's done a direct comparison of the two (I understand the way they fundamentally work is completely different, however they both try to achieve the same thing). I'm doing my own bake-off here and I'd like to hear others' opinions. Direct replies are OK Thanks, -Dave

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whois.internic.net problems?
by Jon R. Kibler 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Anyone know what is up with whois.internic.net? It seems to be having serious problems. When using a command line whois, it either hangs "forever" or gets a connection refused. About 1 time in 5 can I get a query to work. I have tried it from both our local systems and a hosted server we use and get the same results. When trying to report bogus registration data using http://reports.internic.net/cgi/rpt_whois/rpt.cgi, I get "Unable to connect to registry whois, please try later" most of the time. Anyone have any idea what gives? Are they getting DDOSed or something? Thanks! Jon K. -- Jon R. Kibler Chief Technical Officer A.S.E.T., Inc. Charleston, SC USA (843) 849-8214 ================================================== Filtered by: TRUSTEM.COM's Email Filtering Service http://www.trustem.com/ No Spam. No Viruses. Just Good Clean Email.

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RE: Anycast and windows servers
by Buhrmaster, Gary 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Depending on the service being provided, Microsoft has their own clustering solution which will perform failover. Sometimes choosing full vendor supported technologies is the easiest path. With Windows 2003 Server they even support geographically disperses failover. Info at: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/clustering/default.asp Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Senie [mailto:dts@senie.com] > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 6:39 AM > To: Sean Donelan > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Anycast and windows servers > > > > At 05:43 AM 2/20/2004, you wrote: > > >On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Patrick W.Gilmore wrote: > > > Honestly, I do not know about OSPF (or BGP) on Windows, > however, you > > > can just static route to the Windows box(es). Sure, if > the OS hangs, > > > the interface will stay up and the static route will > still push bits at > > > the dead box, but it will work (FSVO "work"). > > > > > > Besides, how often does Windows crash? <snicker> > > > >Hence the reason why I want the route to cease being > advertised if the box > >"fails." > > Connect the server(s) to APC MasterSwitch or equivalent > hardware. Monitor > the server box(es) for responsiveness. If/when it fails, the > monitoring > station can instruct the MasterSwitch to reboot (power cycle, > really) the > box. Stuff is pretty inexpensive (certainly less so than load > balancers). > > > >I'm trying to avoid putting yet another server load balancer > box in front > >of the windows box to withdraw the route so a different > "working" box will > >be closest. It may be an oxymoron, but I'm trying to make > the windows > >service (if not a particular windows box) as "reliable" as possible > >without introducing more boxes than necessary. > > My initial thought last night was in fact the use of load > balancers. But > then you need to think about redundant load balancers and so on. >

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Anycast and windows servers
by Sean Donelan 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

How well does Anycast work with Windows 2000 or XP servers? Is the Microsoft OSPF implementation good enough to use or do people port another routing implementation? Yeah, I know about Unix/Linux. All the large scale anycast deployments I know about are on unix, but I was wondering if anyone has tried it using windows.

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

This report has been generated at Fri Feb 20 21:47:50 2004 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 13-02-04 131225 91573 14-02-04 131314 91491 15-02-04 131233 91647 16-02-04 131350 91764 17-02-04 131484 91764 18-02-04 131572 91814 19-02-04 131618 91835 20-02-04 131753 91795 AS Summary 16600 Number of ASes in routing system 6654 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1385 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7018 : ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 73517312 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS568 : DISOUN DISO-UNRRA Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 20Feb04 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 131836 91842 39994 30.3% All ASes AS4323 692 202 490 70.8% TWC-34 Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS6197 733 299 434 59.2% BNS-14 BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS7018 1385 967 418 30.2% ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services AS701 1324 949 375 28.3% UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS7843 505 132 373 73.9% ADELPH-13 Adelphia Corp. AS27364 382 33 349 91.4% ARMC Armstrong Cable Services AS6198 545 214 331 60.7% BNS-14 BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS4134 653 330 323 49.5% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS22909 342 20 322 94.2% CMCS Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. AS22773 344 35 309 89.8% CXAB Cox Communications Inc. Atlanta AS9583 354 47 307 86.7% SATYAMNET-AS Satyam Infoway Ltd., AS1239 945 661 284 30.1% SPRN Sprint AS4355 385 101 284 73.8% ERSD EARTHLINK, INC AS17676 294 41 253 86.1% JPNIC-JP-ASN-BLOCK Japan Network Information Center AS1221 897 645 252 28.1% ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd AS6347 330 83 247 74.8% SAVV SAVVIS Communications Corporation AS6478 268 39 229 85.4% ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services AS25844 243 16 227 93.4% SASMFL-2 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP AS6140 357 134 223 62.5% IMPSA ImpSat AS14654 216 4 212 98.1% WAYPOR-3 Wayport AS209 716 505 211 29.5% QWEST-4 Qwest AS11305 242 41 201 83.1% INTERL-80 Interland Incorporated AS2386 426 233 193 45.3% ADCS-1 AT&T Data Communications Services AS5668 346 158 188 54.3% CIH-12 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. AS20115 608 422 186 30.6% CHARTE-72 Charter Communications AS4519 203 20 183 90.1% MAASCO Maas Communications AS6327 207 29 178 86.0% SHAWC-2 Shaw Communications Inc. AS9929 208 30 178 85.6% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS4766 418 247 171 40.9% KIX Korea Internet Exchange for "96 World Internet Exposition AS15270 211 40 171 81.0% PDP-14 PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc. Total 14779 6677 8102 54.8% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.138.80.0/20 AS11260 AHSICHCL Andara High Speed Internet c/o Halifax Cable Ltd. 63.0.0.0/8 AS705 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 64.46.0.0/18 AS7850 IHIGHW iHighway.net, Inc. 64.46.4.0/22 AS11711 TULARO TULAROSA COMMUNICATIONS 64.46.12.0/24 AS7850 IHIGHW iHighway.net, Inc. 64.46.27.0/24 AS8674 NETNOD-IX Netnod Internet Exchange Sverige AB 64.46.34.0/24 AS3408 64.46.60.0/24 AS7850 IHIGHW iHighway.net, Inc. 64.46.63.0/24 AS7850 IHIGHW iHighway.net, Inc. 64.62.126.0/23 AS25700 SWIFTD SWIFTDESK VENTURE 66.114.0.0/19 AS16526 BIRCHT Birch Telecom, Inc. 66.114.28.0/24 AS15083 INMM Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 66.114.29.0/24 AS15083 INMM Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 66.114.30.0/24 AS15083 INMM Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 66.114.31.0/24 AS15083 INMM Infolink Communication Services, Inc. 69.8.128.0/17 AS7260 NORL Norlight Telecommunications 132.0.0.0/10 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 137.0.0.0/13 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 138.136.0.0/13 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 158.0.0.0/13 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 192.30.92.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.93.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.94.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.96.0/24 AS10221 HEWLETT-PACKARD Multi-homed connections to multiple ISP's providing 192.30.127.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.43.230.0/24 AS4738 SAARDNET-AS South Australian Academic Research and Development Network 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA 192.64.84.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.81.182.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.81.183.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.81.184.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.83.16.0/20 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.32.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.64.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.96.0/22 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.100.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 NASA National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.133.6.0/24 AS4004 GLOBALONE-EQUANT-UK Equant UK Autonomous System 192.135.50.0/24 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 192.136.71.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.136.79.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.153.144.0/21 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 192.172.0.0/19 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 192.188.208.0/20 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 192.243.32.0/23 AS2044 PALINA Palin Aquisitions Inc. 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLAT-7 Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.97.72.0/21 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 198.97.80.0/20 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 198.97.88.0/24 AS89 NUSC-1 Naval Underwater Systems Center 198.97.192.0/20 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 198.97.240.0/20 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 198.101.4.0/22 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCBCC Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.144.32.0/19 AS3998 CITY CityNet, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GTGR GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.161.165.0/24 AS852 AGTA Telus Advanced Communications 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MRN Manitoba Regional Network 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INS-51 Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ACCA-2 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASK SaskTel 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS Skotos Tech, Inc 199.10.0.0/16 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 UBC-3 University of British Columbia 199.84.0.0/16 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 199.114.0.0/18 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.114.0.0/21 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.114.128.0/18 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.136.0/24 AS1913 DLA-8 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.138.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 DISAUN DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS1913 DLA-8 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 ADP-41 AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS1913 DLA-8 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 ADP-41 AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NXLI NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.123.0.0/18 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.123.16.0/20 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.123.80.0/21 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 202.2.64.0/20 AS9729 IS-AP iAdvantage Limited 202.47.1.0/24 AS7491 PI-PH-AS-AP PI-PHILIPINES 202.70.0.0/20 AS4658 NETFRONT-AS NETFRONT I.T. LIMITED (HONG KONG) 202.70.24.0/24 AS17888 SINGTEL-HK SingTel Hong Kong Limited 202.70.28.0/24 AS4515 ERX-STAR Star Internet Services Ltd. 202.70.240.0/20 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.73.128.0/22 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.86.128.0/24 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.86.142.0/24 AS30362 HAWAI-1 Hawaii-Pacific Teleport 202.86.171.0/24 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.86.172.0/23 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.86.190.0/24 AS4750 LOXLEY-TH Loxley Information Co., Ltd. 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 202.122.76.0/24 AS17553 TIMELESS-AP System Integration provider 202.133.3.0/24 AS9335 CIP-JAPAN-AS-AP ATT IPlus 202.134.128.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.129.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.130.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.131.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.132.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.133.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.134.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.135.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.136.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.134.137.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.143.56.0/21 AS4761 INDOSAT1-AP INDOSATNET-ASN 202.149.240.0/20 AS4761 INDOSAT1-AP INDOSATNET-ASN 202.149.240.0/21 AS4761 INDOSAT1-AP INDOSATNET-ASN 202.149.248.0/21 AS4761 INDOSAT1-AP INDOSATNET-ASN 202.155.243.0/24 AS4795 INDOSAT2-ID-AP INDOSATNET-ASN 202.170.128.0/22 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.170.133.0/24 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 202.170.134.0/23 AS4755 VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 203.32.4.0/23 AS7617 203.62.0.0/17 AS7572 AARNET-ACT-RNO Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.86.2.0/23 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 203.87.224.0/19 AS4799 CHINA169-JT CNCGROUP old Jitong IP network 203.132.107.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.108.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.111.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.118.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.122.0/24 AS4802 WANTREE-AS-AP Wantree Development 203.132.123.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.124.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 204.69.144.0/22 AS5668 CIH-12 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.194.110.0/23 AS30653 EXOBI Exobit Networks Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 206.41.32.0/19 AS14824 NCC-105 NewSouth Communications Corp. 206.81.187.0/24 AS19194 SNL-8 Sentris Network LLC 206.108.34.0/24 AS852 AGTA Telus Advanced Communications 206.108.35.0/24 AS852 AGTA Telus Advanced Communications 206.167.57.0/24 AS376 RISQR-3 Reseau Interordinateurs Scientique Quebecois (RISQ) 206.191.64.0/18 AS15290 ACCA-2 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 206.251.69.0/24 AS27429 TIL-33 Telesat International Ltd. 207.162.192.0/19 AS4589 EASYNET Easynet Group Plc 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETI NuNet Inc 208.81.187.0/24 AS19194 SNL-8 Sentris Network LLC 209.169.219.0/24 AS189 GNTY Genuity 209.169.223.0/24 AS189 GNTY Genuity 209.172.0.0/18 AS7770 TRTI Triton Technologies, Inc. 209.205.69.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.70.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.81.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.82.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.84.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.95.0/24 AS6347 SAVV SAVVIS Communications Corporation 209.213.32.0/19 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.50.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.51.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.55.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.56.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.222.137.0/24 AS27429 TIL-33 Telesat International Ltd. 209.240.96.0/19 AS10815 KCNETI-1 KCnet, Inc. 209.251.0.0/19 AS11036 SISCOM-1 SISCOM, Inc 209.251.64.0/19 AS10266 MDCN MDC, Inc. 210.213.0.0/19 AS6453 GIEUROPE Teleglobe America Inc. 216.18.224.0/21 AS11458 IMBRIS-1 IMBRIS, INC. 216.18.224.0/22 AS11458 IMBRIS-1 IMBRIS, INC. 216.18.228.0/22 AS11458 IMBRIS-1 IMBRIS, INC. 216.36.46.0/24 AS7176 GTEIEUROPE-AS Genuity European AS 216.36.47.0/24 AS7176 GTEIEUROPE-AS Genuity European AS 216.96.128.0/18 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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Re: Identifying IP address types (fwd)
by Sean Donelan 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Public reply, because private are blocked. > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stumpf-dns-mtamark-01.txt > uses rev-dns TXT RRs to let admins document which IP addresses are > supposed to act as MTA (as well as to document which addresses are > supposed not to send mail). The difference is an ISP may "permit" any customer to act as an MTA. The ISP does not want to decide about what to permit or deny. But the ISP may be willing to provide more information about an address so other people can decide if they want to behave differently depending on the type of connection. For example, an IRC operator may decide not to permit anyone using a dynamic address to connect, or a Web site may want to send smaller pages to users on low bandwidth connections. > In fact, you won't be able to reply to this email unless > hostmaster(a)coloco.com enters > > @origin 53.34.199.in-addr.arpa > _perm._stmp_srv.180 IN TXT "1" > > into the DNS for you. If an ISP permits every IP address to use any service, what does it accomplish? If an ISP didn't want to permit its users to access SMTP, the ISP would just block port 25 at the network layer.

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Verisign wins an award...
by Ray Bellis 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Seeing as this didn't appear to hit NANOG yet - Our dear friends at Verisign won the "Internet Villain" of the year award at the UK ISPA awards last night "for their presumption that they own the internet and the domain name system hijacking scandal". cheers, Ray Bellis -- Ray Bellis, MA(Oxon) - Technical Director community internet plc - ts.com Ltd Windsor House, 12 High Street, Kidlington, Oxford, OX5 2PJ tel: +44 1865 856000 email: ray.bellis(a)community.net.uk fax: +44 1865 856001 web: http://www.community.net.uk/

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