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home.nl NOC contact number.
by Scott Walker 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Does anyone happen to have a contact number for home.nl's noc? I need to speak with someone there ASAP about a incident that just occured. -- Scott Walker scott(a)unspeakable.org Cell 954.444.3408 http://www.unspeakable.org Network/Security Administrator "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim ." E. W. Dijkstra

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Re: Does peering at an ATM MAE require a router that does ABR?
by Alex 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Damn. I read that wrong. I thought it said 'cannot be mixed'. It's true, they can be mixed. Maybe I shouldn't be replying to emails 4 minutes after waking up. All your MAE-ATM ports are belong to us. On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Nenad Trifunovic wrote: > Service types can be mixed on same access port

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Re: Does peering at an ATM MAE require a router that does ABR?
by Alex 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Right. However, > Service types can be mixed on same access port Is false. On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Nenad Trifunovic wrote: > > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0010/bechly.html (slide 4) > > New �Best Effort� service (11/00) > ABR service with congestion control in core > MCR = 100 cells/second > PCR is set to fixed percentage of access port speed > PCR for DS3 is 100% of port speed (45 Mbps) > PCR for OC3 is 66% of port speed (99.22 Mbps) > PCR for OC12 is 50% of port speed (300.67 Mbps) > Total MCR cannot exceed access port speed > Service types can be mixed on same access port

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Next NANOG
by Pete Kruckenberg 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Was the date/place of the next NANOG announced in Atlanta? Pete.

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by bera badsa 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

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Does peering at an ATM MAE require a router that does ABR?
by tek weeny 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I have been told by various people that to peer at an ATM MAE point I must have a router that can do ABR? Can anyone verify if this is the case at any of the ATM MAE peering points? Thanks, Julian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Fwd: New York's Con Ed sends power to a telecom hotel -- its own
by Steve Goldstein 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

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RE:
by Matthew Schlegel 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I did have problems with call completion throughout most of the day yesterday, but I think that can be safely attributed to overwelming call volumes. Normally I do not have any problems with my PCS phone around 425/206/360 area codes. I've also had my phone around san jose area with no problems. Matthew Schlegel Network Engineer Crossgain Corporation - -----Original Message----- From: CARL.P.HIRSCH(a)sargentlundy.com [mailto:CARL.P.HIRSCH@sargentlundy.com] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:22 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: So you're saying everything's okay now? This is consistent with results on my Sprint PCS phone in the 773/312 earthquake or no. I've learned to just not rely on the thing and take my measly $20 SLA discount from them on a monthly basis. Can't wait until GSM hits Chicago. >I have a Sprint PCS phone, all calls dialed left me with a fast busy >(when I could get carrier) until about about 30 minutes ago. >Now it rings but I get disconnected when the call tries to connect. >Regards, >Chris - -carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBOp58yitAKYXwpQg1EQKVpACg2Bm/fCTnGJ6QaOqspwwfapOEN8oAoJSS dYEfc1mHRfG92j262wpAIWwT =pH46 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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(no subject)
by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

So you're saying everything's okay now? This is consistent with results on my Sprint PCS phone in the 773/312 earthquake or no. I've learned to just not rely on the thing and take my measly $20 SLA discount from them on a monthly basis. Can't wait until GSM hits Chicago. >I have a Sprint PCS phone, all calls dialed left me with a fast busy >(when I could get carrier) until about about 30 minutes ago. >Now it rings but I get disconnected when the call tries to connect. >Regards, >Chris -carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc

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MAE West ATM
by marcellus＠zephion.net 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Hello, Is anyone out there using a Juniper to connect the MAE ATM switch? If so, please contact me off-list. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Marcellus Smith 571.226.1223 Office 703-395-4275 Cell marcellus(a)zephion.net

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