December 2000 - NANOG - lists.nanog.org

troubles in above.net and chellonetwork.com ?!@#$%
by Jeff Hodges 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

Anybody know what's going on? this suddenly started sometime in the last 90 min or so. Prior to that I was enjoying nice little 30ms latencies on this path. thanks, JeffH ----- Tracing from oblix.com to www.stanford.edu... /home/jhodges[625]> date ; traceroute www.stanford.edu Tue Dec 5 11:14:11 PST 2000 traceroute to www.LB-A.stanford.edu (171.64.14.235), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 router192 (192.168.1.1) 0.834 ms 0.989 ms 0.626 ms 2 peto (192.168.3.2) 0.789 ms * 0.750 ms 3 router (216.200.223.224) 2.074 ms 1.745 ms 3.379 ms 4 above (216.200.159.32) 4.593 ms 4.331 ms 4.300 ms 5 216.200.142.main2.above.net (216.200.142.3) 3.996 ms 3.830 ms 3.928 ms 6 sjc2-gige-core1.sjc2.above.net (208.184.102.97) 3.923 ms 3.902 ms 4.049 ms 7 core5-core1-oc48.sjc.above.net (216.200.0.177) 4.080 ms 3.919 ms 3.924 ms 8 core3-core5-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.102.206) 4.069 ms 4.015 ms 4.036 ms 9 iad-sjc2-oc48.iad.above.net (216.200.127.25) 74.717 ms 72.328 ms 71.984 ms 10 core3-core1-oc48.iad.above.net (209.249.203.33) 77.661 ms 78.310 ms 72.298 ms 11 lhr-iad-stm4.lhr.above.net (216.200.254.78) 886.943 ms 892.302 ms 899.346 ms 12 ams-lhr-stm4.above.net (208.184.231.14) 917.162 ms 911.795 ms 912.913 ms 13 amsix-core1.ams-1.above.net (208.184.231.38) 920.192 ms 888.774 ms 878.803 ms 14 nl-ams-ri-03-gige-3-0.chello.com (193.148.15.106) 874.924 ms 867.330 ms 867.151 ms 15 nl-ams-rd-02-pos-6-0.chellonetwork.com (213.46.161.61) 877.168 ms 882.381 ms 885.405 ms 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 bebru203-tc-p1-0.ebone.net (195.158.225.85) 3565.005 ms * 3507.232 ms 19 * bebru204-tc-p2-0.ebone.net (195.158.225.82) 3484.896 ms 3556.127 ms 20 * * * 21 usnyk105-tc-p8-3.ebone.net (195.158.229.45) 3683.897 ms 3687.444 ms 3722.310 ms 22 * * * 23 * * p7-1.nycmny1-ba1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.8.89) 3703.430 ms 24 p7-0.nycmny1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.6.229) 3758.138 ms * * 25 * p5-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.81) 3731.156 ms * 26 * * * 27 p9-0.snjpca1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.9.130) 3721.144 ms * * 28 * * * 29 * * p4-0.paloalto-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.66) 3734.683 ms 30 p0-0-0.paloalto-cr18.bbnplanet.net (4.0.3.86) 3786.637 ms 3781.417 ms * /home/jhodges[626]> /home/jhodges[626]> /home/jhodges[626]> /home/jhodges[626]> /home/jhodges[626]> ping www.stanford.edu PING www.LB-A.stanford.edu (171.64.14.203): 56 data bytes --- www.LB-A.stanford.edu ping statistics --- 14 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss /home/jhodges[627]> /home/jhodges[627]>

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Problems with Turner network (AS-5662)?
by James S. Smith 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

Is anyone from the Turner NOC on this list? I'm experiencing network problems getting to 207.25.71.0, 207.25.80.0, etc in AS 5662, but only from one network. (I can get to it from other networks fine.) -- James S. Smith Systems Administrator +1 416 408-4448 x257 james(a)mobshop.com www.mobshop.com <http://www.mobshop.com>

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Re: Re: Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
by nanog＠btamail.net.cn 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

Does it scale well? Will you ask for the feeling of your operators facing these PVCs? > > On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Yu Ning wrote: > > > Hi Nanog, > > > > We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, > > but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does > > anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? > > Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ? > > Well I can tell you at Exario we decided to go with ATM, we just were not > ready to sell MPLS based VPNs. Voice is a vary strong part of our solution > and that compounded the problems. > > ><> > Nathan Stratton CTO, Exario Networks, Inc. > nathan(a)robotics.net nathan(a)exario.net > http://www.robotics.net http://www.exario.net > > ---------------------------------------------- »¶ÓÊ¹ÓÃ BTA µç×ÓÓÊŒþÏµÍ³ http://btamail.net.cn Thank you for using BTA Email system

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Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
by Yu Ning 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

Hi Nanog, We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ? Here is the Glob alone news. Today's focus: Good times for Global One ----------------------------------------------- By Denise Pappalardo Global One last week was tooting its own horn. The company announced that it inked deals with more than 20 "major multinational companies in the U.S., Europe, South America and Asia.All of these new customers are using Global One's Global IP VPN service that's based on Multiprotocol Label Switching technology. Some of the 20 new customers include Renault Spain, Agrupacion Mutual Aseguradora and Sysigsa. Global IP VPN service is available in 35 countries: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Singapore, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, U.S., United Kingdom and Venezuela. The service uses Cisco 7500 series routers that support MPLS for advanced traffic engineering, which allows users to set priority levels for various types of traffic. The service runs over France Telecom's global terabit fiber optic network that connects 250 cities in 16 European countries. France Telecom, which is now the sole owner of Global One, also recently announced that it is building a 15,000-mile fiber-optic network in North America that will span 28 cities. The service provider offers another version of its Global IP VPN service that runs over its frame relay network in 75 countries. -------------------------------------- (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. Internet Network Product Dep. Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. Internet Network Product Dep. Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 --------------------------------------

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Re: Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
by Steve Carter 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

> > We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, > > but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does > > anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? > > Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ? I apologise, it's probably my interpretation, but I don't understand. Can you be more specific regarding the statement that Cisco said MPLS can't be widely deployed? It is widely deployed today, and in some pretty large networks. -Steve

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re: Anyone with a clue at CAIS.NET?
by Matt Levine 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Roy, We're CAIS's largest colo customer (yeah..scary thought..shudder).. Lemme know what info you need and I can get it for you. Matt -- Matt Levine, CTO <mlevine(a)efront.com> eFront Media, Inc. - http://www.efront.com Phone: +1 714 428 8500 ext. 504 Fax : +1 949 203 2156 ICQ : 17080004

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Anyone with a clue at CAIS.NET?
by Roy 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Does anyone have a number of someone at CAIS with a clue? We are trying to garner information on an attack that seems to have originated in the CAIS address space. I have made several phone calls but I just keep getting switched between people. Roy Engehausen

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RE: Internet metrics
by Schmiedt, Jamie 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Just wanted to thank all of you that responded to my question. The links I received are very useful (well, accept for Dan G's. :) They are listed below. Thanks again. http://www.caida.org/ www.andovernews.com http://www.ksu.edu/Internet2/network.html http://www.miq.net/ http://www.gomeznetworks.com http://www.dslreports.com/stest/0 http://computingcentral.msn.com/topics/bandwidth/speedtest500.asp http://www.cable-modems.org/toolbox/speed_test/ http://www.2wire.com/bandwidth/bmresult.asp?kbps=898.3 http://support.midco.net/test/ -jamie -----Original Message----- From: Schmiedt, Jamie Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 4:02 PM To: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: Internet metrics I am looking for websites that deal with bandwidth and performance metrics as they pertain to the Internet? Anything and everything goes. I need to get a snapshot in time of things like "the average speed of the Internet", the average size of e-mail messages, the average size of a web page, peering points and hosting facilities, current bottlenecks be they hardware, software or networks. Any cool links for this sorta info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance -jamie

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Internet performance measures compared to other industires
by Sean Donelan 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

I wonder if I'm sensitized to Internet problems in comparison to other industries. I checked a couple of other industries often given as examples of high uptimes, and found similar problems. Ameritech will compensate 150,000 customers who waited more than 48 hours for a repair, or more than 7 days past the installation due date since January 1 2000. Ameritech is under investigation in four other states for missed dates and repair problems. An e-merchant reports credit card fraud verification system nonfunctional 22 percent of the time. Mastercard and Visa didn't reply to press inquiries. NASDAQ reports 99.96% system availability since January 1 2000. AT&T, the only ISP I know publicly posting connection stats, reports 99% connect success last month.

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Re: Network Availability Tool
by Toby_Williams＠enron.net 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

If you're looking for an on-net tool then one of the following might be OK www.entuity.com - currently make a LAN product but are developing for the WAN http://www.lucent-networkcare.com/software/vitalsuite/vitalnet/index.asp http://www.desktalk.com/ http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/wr2k/svmnv1/prodlit/slm_ds.htm Toby

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