September 1996 - NANOG - lists.nanog.org

Flapfix BoF
by Paul Ferguson 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

I've been asked to the lead the Flapfix BoF at the upcoming NANOG meeting in Ann Arbor, and would like to solicit suggestions on topics for discussion. Comments? - paul ps. Also, I'd like to remind everyone that there *is* a flapfix mailing list, which there are currently very few members: To join, send a message to: majordomo(a)nap.net with the message body: subscribe flapfix

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Re: Advice on dealing with Sprint (fwd)
by markd＠cais.cais.com 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

Jay: We do this frequently and with a 2501 or a 2514. It must be a Cisco router and sometimes will need more memory. There is NO additional charge for those reselling IP services at CAIS. The CAIS service agreement is also a month to month agreement. Call me if you would like to find out more. Mark Dezagottis CAIS Internet (703) 448-4470 x417 >Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:45:39 +0000 >From: Jay Stewart <cosmo(a)olywa.net> >To: Rob Liebschutz <rob(a)rjl.com> >Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Re: Advice on dealing with Sprint > >> I spoke to a sprint salesperson about 2 weeks ago and was told that I >> could not get any kind of BGP4 peering with Sprint unless I had a >> Cisco 7000 series router. > >This is my experience also, althought I was able to get my sales >weasel to say that they might except a 45xx series if it had >sufficient memory, as some "exceptions" had been granted on a "case >by case" basis. > >As a reseller of IP services they will not manage my router for me, >but said I still had to have a Cisco(tm) router, even if I'm not >peering BGP. > > > >Jay Stewart >Vice President >Olympia Networking Services - "Olympia's Premier Internet Access" >Phone (360) 753.3636 Fax (360) 357.6160 http://www.olywa.net/ > > *************************** Mark Dezagottis CAIS Internet 6861 Elm St., 3rd Floor McLean, VA 22101 USA Tel:(703) 448-4470 x417 Fax:(703) 790-8805 markd(a)cais.com http://www.cais.com http://www.cgxtelecom.com ***************************

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Cidr Report - part 3
by Tony Bates 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

2) Weekly Delta This a daily snapshot of changes in classfull routes being withdrawn and added. the deltas are calculated over a rolling 7 day period. Please bear in mind this is purely a "snapshot" and a large flucuation could be caused by a connectivity problem for example. However, this does give some indication of service providers that are moving to classless routing. Top 20 Withdrawn Routes from 20Sep96 to 27Sep96 -394 AS1717 RENATER -135 AS279 SURAnet Southern AS -103 AS1740 CERFnet -68 AS701 Alternet -59 AS2941 CSCNS-AS -55 AS4262 CERFnet Los Angeles SMDS -37 AS174 Performance Systems International -36 AS1 BBN Planet backbone -35 AS3930 FERC-FED-US -32 AS2551 NETCOM On-line Communication Serv -30 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region (N -26 AS2914 RGnet/TLGnet SF -24 AS3491 CAIS-ASN -17 AS3566 JRIVER-LINK -16 AS1257 SWIPnet Swedish IP Network -15 AS1263 NSN-TEST-AS -11 AS200 BBN Planet Western Region -10 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS -9 AS71 Hewlett-Packard -7 AS2277 ECUANET Top 20 Added Routes from 20Sep96 to 27Sep96 80 AS86 SURAnet Northern AS 45 AS4175 CONNECT-NCM 31 AS2493 i*internet 30 AS1275 DFN-IP 29 AS4387 RECYT 24 AS8001 UNKNOWN 21 AS3915 Best Internet Communications, Inc 20 AS225 University of Virginia (VIRnet) 19 AS6536 MOUNTAINNET 18 AS4433 ACCESS-ONE 14 AS568 JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic 11 AS6401 eConnect 10 AS3397 EMI-AS 9 AS3749 Tennessee Board of Regents 8 AS4174 CONNECT-COM 7 AS6739 Autonomous System number for Belg 6 AS3561 MCI 5 AS549 ONet Backbone 4 AS3720 TIMS-AS 3 AS5746 Celestar 3) Interesting aggregates List of possibly interesting aggregates --------------------------------------- aggregate origin-AS AS Description 9.2.0.0/16 AS1747 IBM Watson, Yorktown Heights, 9.20.0.0/17 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 9.67.0.0/19 AS3561 MCI 24.0.0.0/14 AS6172 @Home Corp 24.48.0.0/18 AS1677 ANS Hartford - CNSS 53 24.64.0.0/19 AS6327 Shaw Fiberlink Ltd. 24.64.32.0/19 AS6327 Shaw Fiberlink Ltd. 24.96.0.0/18 AS6541 GTE Intelligent Network Servic 24.112.0.0/18 AS6463 Rogers Network Services 24.113.0.0/18 AS6177 SPRINTLINK11 24.124.0.0/18 AS3561 MCI 24.128.0.0/18 AS7015 UNKNOWN 24.129.0.0/18 AS7017 UNKNOWN 24.131.0.0/18 AS7016 UNKNOWN 38.231.198.0/24 AS3951 ICONNET 57.12.0.0/16 AS5384 Etisalat Emirates Internet 128.145.228.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 128.167.1.0/24 AS1 BBN Planet backbone 128.188.1.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 128.193.0.0/19 AS4201 Oregon State University 129.181.216.0/22 AS517 Xlink 130.168.105.0/24 AS1270 EUnet Germany 130.168.115.0/24 AS1270 EUnet Germany 130.168.125.0/24 AS1270 EUnet Germany 130.188.2.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.188.3.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.188.150.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.188.252.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.205.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 130.252.178.0/24 AS1321 ANS San Francisco - DNSS 11 131.114.192.0/18 AS2598 Consiglio Nazionale delle Rice 131.115.211.0/24 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 131.117.0.0/17 AS559 SWITCH, Swiss Academic and Res 132.235.204.0/24 AS3561 MCI 134.33.100.0/24 AS701 Alternet 134.198.8.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.16.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.24.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.32.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.40.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.48.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.56.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.64.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.72.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.96.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.168.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.192.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.232.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.240.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.204.14.0/24 AS3561 MCI 134.204.176.0/24 AS3561 MCI 134.241.109.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 135.14.65.0/24 AS3111 Internet Direct Inc. (ASN-DIRE 135.16.150.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 135.37.2.0/24 AS3561 MCI 135.37.4.0/24 AS3561 MCI 135.37.10.0/24 AS3561 MCI 135.37.14.0/24 AS3561 MCI 135.40.66.0/24 AS3561 MCI 136.140.9.0/24 AS3561 MCI 137.62.197.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 138.95.80.0/24 AS701 Alternet 138.108.100.0/24 AS3561 MCI 138.182.252.0/24 AS5855 Secretary of the Navy 138.182.254.0/24 AS5855 Secretary of the Navy 139.46.35.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 139.61.102.0/24 AS3111 Internet Direct Inc. (ASN-DIRE 139.61.103.0/24 AS3111 Internet Direct Inc. (ASN-DIRE 139.162.128.0/17 AS1136 Unisource Internet Service NL 140.10.12.0/24 AS701 Alternet 140.188.86.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 140.188.129.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 140.188.198.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 140.231.44.0/24 AS3561 MCI 141.227.111.0/24 AS2529 Demon Internet Ltd 142.77.19.0/24 AS813 UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) 142.77.248.0/24 AS813 UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) 143.93.32.0/19 AS517 Xlink 143.222.116.0/24 AS3407 Interpath 143.252.80.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 144.192.181.0/24 AS4200 AGIS (Apex Global Information 144.199.161.0/24 AS1238 ICM Malaysia (MIMOS) connectee 144.224.10.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.224.11.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.224.12.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.224.13.0/24 AS6176 SPRINTLINK10 144.224.14.0/24 AS6176 SPRINTLINK10 144.224.15.0/24 AS6176 SPRINTLINK10 144.224.16.0/24 AS6176 SPRINTLINK10 144.224.20.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.224.21.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.224.22.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.224.23.0/24 AS6175 SPRINTLINK9 144.224.24.0/24 AS6175 SPRINTLINK9 144.224.25.0/24 AS6175 SPRINTLINK9 144.224.26.0/24 AS6175 SPRINTLINK9 144.228.20.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.22.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.23.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.25.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.29.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.30.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.37.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.38.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.39.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.40.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.41.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.42.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.44.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.47.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.48.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.49.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.50.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.54.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.55.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.57.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.58.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.59.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.60.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.63.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.64.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.65.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.66.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.67.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.68.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.69.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.70.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.73.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.74.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.75.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.76.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.77.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.78.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.79.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.80.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.83.0/24 AS6174 SPRINTLINK8 144.228.84.0/24 AS6174 SPRINTLINK8 144.228.85.0/24 AS6174 SPRINTLINK8 144.228.86.0/24 AS6174 SPRINTLINK8 144.228.90.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.91.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.92.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.93.0/24 AS6177 SPRINTLINK11 144.228.94.0/24 AS6177 SPRINTLINK11 144.228.95.0/24 AS6177 SPRINTLINK11 144.228.96.0/24 AS6177 SPRINTLINK11 144.228.103.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.104.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.120.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.121.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.122.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.123.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.124.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.125.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.126.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.127.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.128.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 144.228.130.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.131.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.132.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.133.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.134.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.135.0/24 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX 144.228.140.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.141.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.142.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.143.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.144.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.145.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.146.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.148.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.150.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.151.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.152.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.153.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.154.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.155.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.156.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.157.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.158.0/24 AS1793 SprintLink Chicago IL 144.228.160.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.161.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 144.228.162.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.163.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.164.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.165.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 144.228.166.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 144.228.170.0/24 AS1795 SprintLink Anaheim CA 144.228.214.0/24 AS1792 SprintLink Stockton CA 145.17.100.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 145.72.32.0/19 AS5484 BT Netherlands Regional Servic 145.72.64.0/19 AS5484 BT Netherlands Regional Servic 145.246.16.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 145.246.17.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 145.248.112.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 145.248.155.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 145.248.157.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 145.248.159.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 145.248.161.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 145.248.165.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 146.75.251.0/24 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 146.75.253.0/24 AS1257 SWIPnet Swedish IP Network 146.75.254.0/24 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 146.188.254.0/24 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 147.85.21.0/24 AS3951 ICONNET 147.85.25.0/24 AS3951 ICONNET 147.85.39.0/24 AS3951 ICONNET 147.85.44.0/24 AS3951 ICONNET 147.85.51.0/24 AS3951 ICONNET 147.85.115.0/24 AS3951 ICONNET 147.160.0.0/17 AS3561 MCI 147.160.128.0/18 AS3561 MCI 147.160.192.0/20 AS3561 MCI 147.160.208.0/20 AS3561 MCI 147.160.224.0/20 AS3561 MCI 147.160.224.0/19 AS3561 MCI 147.206.20.0/24 AS3561 MCI 148.59.5.0/24 AS2015 Msen, Inc. 148.59.242.0/24 AS2015 Msen, Inc. 148.59.242.0/24 AS1717 RENATER 148.94.210.0/24 AS5714 EDS-WEB 148.185.45.0/24 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 148.252.1.0/24 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 149.20.4.0/24 AS1239 SprintLink Backbone 149.20.64.0/24 AS701 Alternet 149.212.64.0/20 AS1759 Telecom Finland iNET 149.236.92.0/24 AS6292 FCI 150.185.128.0/18 AS1800 ICM-Atlantic 150.185.192.0/18 AS1800 ICM-Atlantic 151.185.7.0/24 AS279 SURAnet Southern AS 151.185.10.0/24 AS279 SURAnet Southern AS 152.129.186.0/24 AS4478 PNET-STL 152.163.199.0/24 AS2056 AOL-AS 152.163.200.0/24 AS2056 AOL-AS 152.163.231.0/24 AS2056 AOL-AS 152.163.232.0/23 AS2056 AOL-AS 152.163.234.0/23 AS2056 AOL-AS 152.179.0.0/17 AS1321 ANS San Francisco - DNSS 11 152.184.0.0/17 AS1333 ANS Atlanta - DNSS 107 152.184.128.0/17 AS1330 ANS St. Louis - DNSS 83 152.185.0.0/17 AS1332 ANS Denver - DNSS 99 152.185.128.0/17 AS1328 ANS Houston - DNSS 67 152.186.0.0/18 AS1328 ANS Houston - DNSS 67 152.186.64.0/18 AS1335 ANS Honolulu - CNSS 120 152.186.128.0/17 AS1322 ANS Los Angeles - DNSS 19 152.187.0.0/17 AS1321 ANS San Francisco - DNSS 11 152.187.128.0/17 AS1326 ANS Hartford - DNSS 51 152.189.0.0/18 AS1329 ANS Greensboro - DNSS 75 152.189.128.0/17 AS1327 ANS Washington D.C. - DNSS 59 152.189.184.0/22 AS1667 ANS-BLK1 152.190.0.0/17 AS1323 ANS Chicago - DNSS 27 152.191.0.0/17 AS1331 ANS Seattle - DNSS 91 152.191.128.0/17 AS1334 ANS Albuquerque - CNSS 112 153.2.164.0/24 AS3561 MCI 153.96.80.0/21 AS517 Xlink 153.96.92.0/24 AS517 Xlink 153.96.188.0/22 AS517 Xlink 153.96.230.0/24 AS517 Xlink 155.39.191.0/24 AS2685 IGN OpenNet - US 155.134.60.0/24 AS701 Alternet 155.140.124.0/24 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 155.173.244.0/24 AS3561 MCI 155.203.254.0/24 AS3561 MCI 155.229.176.0/22 AS7045 UNKNOWN 156.46.0.0/17 AS4550 Alpha.net Corporation (ASN-AN- 156.46.128.0/17 AS4550 Alpha.net Corporation (ASN-AN- 156.51.204.0/24 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 156.114.200.0/24 AS2529 Demon Internet Ltd 157.25.64.0/23 AS1887 NASK 157.25.98.0/24 AS1887 NASK 157.184.150.0/24 AS1330 ANS St. Louis - DNSS 83 157.232.100.0/24 AS3561 MCI 158.43.200.0/24 AS701 Alternet 158.118.51.0/24 AS701 Alternet 158.155.24.0/22 AS1221 AARNET-AS 158.174.254.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 159.24.7.0/24 AS4286 IMCI 159.87.34.0/24 AS200 BBN Planet Western Region 159.179.0.0/24 AS3561 MCI 159.197.158.0/23 AS2529 Demon Internet Ltd 159.245.84.0/22 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 159.245.104.0/22 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 160.92.0.0/17 AS3215 RAIN 160.92.128.0/24 AS3215 RAIN 160.92.129.0/24 AS2917 OLEANE - PIPEX International 160.92.130.0/23 AS3215 RAIN 160.92.132.0/22 AS3215 RAIN 160.92.136.0/21 AS3215 RAIN 160.92.144.0/20 AS3215 RAIN 160.92.160.0/19 AS3215 RAIN 160.92.192.0/18 AS3215 RAIN 160.104.0.0/17 AS701 Alternet 160.104.128.0/17 AS1290 PSINet UK Ltd. 161.22.0.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 161.51.224.0/20 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 161.52.192.0/19 AS2845 SUNET-LUND 161.120.6.0/24 AS3561 MCI 161.223.220.0/22 AS1 BBN Planet backbone 161.223.224.0/24 AS1 BBN Planet backbone 162.81.141.0/24 AS3561 MCI 163.12.0.0/23 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.5.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.16.0/22 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.21.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.22.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.23.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.24.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.32.0/19 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.64.0/20 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.81.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.84.0/22 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.88.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.96.0/19 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.128.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.136.0/22 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.144.0/20 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.160.0/19 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.192.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.240.0/20 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.49.131.0/24 AS3561 MCI 163.49.132.0/22 AS3561 MCI 163.49.136.0/22 AS3561 MCI 163.49.140.0/23 AS3561 MCI 163.49.142.0/24 AS3561 MCI 163.168.212.0/24 AS3303 Unisource Business Networks (S 163.168.212.0/24 AS1717 RENATER 163.249.43.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.53.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.54.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.57.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.140.0/22 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.160.0/21 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.168.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.169.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.170.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 164.99.56.192/26 AS2041 CRL-GATE 164.100.64.0/20 AS3561 MCI 164.100.80.0/24 AS4755 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Indi 164.100.81.0/24 AS3561 MCI 164.100.82.0/23 AS3561 MCI 164.100.84.0/22 AS3561 MCI 164.100.88.0/21 AS3561 MCI 164.100.96.0/19 AS3561 MCI 164.100.167.0/24 AS3561 MCI 164.100.199.0/24 AS4755 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Indi 164.103.3.0/24 AS3561 MCI 164.131.247.0/24 AS3215 RAIN 164.131.248.0/24 AS3215 RAIN 164.224.208.0/20 AS5855 Secretary of the Navy 165.108.130.0/24 AS3561 MCI 165.113.197.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.198.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.199.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.211.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.219.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.166.123.0/24 AS3561 MCI 165.215.64.0/18 AS4183 CompuServe, Incorporated 165.215.191.0/24 AS5090 CWI-NYD 165.247.33.0/24 AS5696 Primary AS for GoodNet 166.38.40.0/24 AS3561 MCI 166.147.0.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.147.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.147.128.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.147.192.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.0.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.128.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.192.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.0.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.128.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.192.0/18 AS3561 MCI 167.72.128.0/24 AS3561 MCI 167.77.32.0/24 AS3561 MCI 167.105.232.0/24 AS3561 MCI 167.170.6.0/23 AS3313 I.Net S.p.A. 167.170.32.0/23 AS3313 I.Net S.p.A. 167.208.125.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.14.1.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.14.2.0/23 AS3561 MCI 168.14.4.0/22 AS3561 MCI 168.14.8.0/21 AS3561 MCI 168.14.16.0/20 AS3561 MCI 168.29.0.0/17 AS3492 ATLANTA 168.175.70.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.175.170.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.175.171.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.175.172.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.224.128.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 168.247.253.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 168.247.254.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 169.132.80.0/24 AS5000 IDT Corporation 169.137.170.0/24 AS3407 Interpath 169.200.1.0/24 AS3561 MCI 170.115.249.0/24 AS4969 Net Access 170.194.51.0/24 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 170.215.192.0/20 AS5650 Electric Lightwave Inc. and XM 171.25.128.0/20 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 171.25.144.0/21 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 171.25.152.0/21 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 171.30.170.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 192.103.70.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 192.103.74.0/27 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 194.23.1.36/30 AS3305 Internet Service Provider back 194.51.28.152/30 AS1667 ANS-BLK1 194.178.245.32/28 AS5417 Demon Internet Ltd 194.237.174.0/29 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 194.237.174.8/29 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 194.237.174.32/27 AS3308 TeliaNet Denmark 195.38.9.6/32 AS6739 Autonomous System number for B 195.212.2.0/28 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.6.0/26 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.48.0/27 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.69.0/26 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.74.0/27 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.78.0/28 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.106.0/26 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.110.0/27 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.198.0/25 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 195.212.226.0/28 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 198.83.24.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 198.83.47.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 198.83.195.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 198.83.209.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 198.83.210.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 199.99.247.32/27 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 199.221.28.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 199.221.38.0/27 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 199.221.47.0/25 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 199.222.34.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 199.233.98.0/25 AS6082 MAI Network Services 199.233.98.128/25 AS6082 MAI Network Services 202.50.137.64/27 AS2687 OpenNet-AP 204.148.62.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 204.148.68.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 204.151.106.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 204.151.152.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 205.156.223.176/28 AS2702 Spry AS

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Cidr Report - part 2
by Tony Bates 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 27Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS719 1011 601 410 40.6% LANLINK autonomous system AS174 1268 924 344 27.1% Performance Systems International AS279 850 508 342 40.2% SURAnet Southern AS AS2493 756 479 277 36.6% i*internet AS3602 586 335 251 42.8% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3397 300 98 202 67.3% EMI-AS AS3749 273 73 200 73.3% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 342 153 189 55.3% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1 426 281 145 34.0% BBN Planet backbone AS86 379 236 143 37.7% SURAnet Northern AS AS3804 384 241 143 37.2% WorldLinx 3 AS1691 294 157 137 46.6% ANS-BLK1 AS4230 350 214 136 38.9% Embratel Brazil AS568 370 259 111 30.0% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2386 231 136 95 41.1% INS-AS AS1790 335 250 85 25.4% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS2704 266 186 80 30.1% HOOKUP-NET-A AS721 335 259 76 22.7% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS3215 132 57 75 56.8% RAIN AS560 399 325 74 18.5% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS225 127 61 66 52.0% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS813 228 164 64 28.1% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3450 110 47 63 57.3% UTK AS3996 113 51 62 54.9% FIRN AS1791 199 137 62 31.2% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS1785 285 225 60 21.1% NYSERNet Backbone AS2711 109 50 59 54.1% SUNBELT-AS AS855 125 67 58 46.4% NBTel AS2871 139 82 57 41.0% Internet Services GmbH & Co --- 26Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS719 1009 601 408 40.4% LANLINK autonomous system AS174 1277 931 346 27.1% Performance Systems International AS279 841 497 344 40.9% SURAnet Southern AS AS2493 755 478 277 36.7% i*internet AS3602 585 335 250 42.7% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3749 274 73 201 73.4% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 344 149 195 56.7% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS3397 286 104 182 63.6% EMI-AS AS1 425 280 145 34.1% BBN Planet backbone AS86 379 236 143 37.7% SURAnet Northern AS AS3804 385 242 143 37.1% WorldLinx 3 AS1691 293 156 137 46.8% ANS-BLK1 AS4230 346 211 135 39.0% Embratel Brazil AS568 367 257 110 30.0% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2386 232 137 95 40.9% INS-AS AS1790 334 249 85 25.4% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS721 349 268 81 23.2% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS2704 265 185 80 30.2% HOOKUP-NET-A AS3215 132 57 75 56.8% RAIN AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS813 228 161 67 29.4% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS225 127 61 66 52.0% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS3450 112 49 63 56.2% UTK AS1791 202 140 62 30.7% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS3996 113 52 61 54.0% FIRN AS1785 286 226 60 21.0% NYSERNet Backbone AS2711 110 51 59 53.6% SUNBELT-AS AS855 124 67 57 46.0% NBTel AS2871 139 82 57 41.0% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS560 369 313 56 15.2% BBN Planet, New England Region (N --- 25Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS4230 1100 347 753 68.5% Embratel Brazil AS174 1281 931 350 27.3% Performance Systems International AS279 838 498 340 40.6% SURAnet Southern AS AS2493 753 476 277 36.8% i*internet AS3602 583 335 248 42.5% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3749 279 75 204 73.1% Tennessee Board of Regents AS3397 290 102 188 64.8% EMI-AS AS2048 340 156 184 54.1% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1 456 294 162 35.5% BBN Planet backbone AS86 365 224 141 38.6% SURAnet Northern AS AS1691 287 153 134 46.7% ANS-BLK1 AS568 363 255 108 29.8% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS3804 325 218 107 32.9% WorldLinx 3 AS719 545 450 95 17.4% LANLINK autonomous system AS2386 232 137 95 40.9% INS-AS AS2704 271 184 87 32.1% HOOKUP-NET-A AS1790 336 251 85 25.3% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS721 346 265 81 23.4% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS3215 129 55 74 57.4% RAIN AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS813 227 160 67 29.5% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS225 127 61 66 52.0% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS3450 111 46 65 58.6% UTK AS1791 203 141 62 30.5% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS1785 283 223 60 21.2% NYSERNet Backbone AS3996 110 51 59 53.6% FIRN AS2711 109 50 59 54.1% SUNBELT-AS AS855 123 67 56 45.5% NBTel AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N AS2551 348 293 55 15.8% NETCOM On-line Communication Serv --- 24Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS4230 1100 347 753 68.5% Embratel Brazil AS174 1281 931 350 27.3% Performance Systems International AS279 838 498 340 40.6% SURAnet Southern AS AS2493 753 476 277 36.8% i*internet AS3602 583 335 248 42.5% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3749 279 75 204 73.1% Tennessee Board of Regents AS3397 290 102 188 64.8% EMI-AS AS2048 340 156 184 54.1% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1 456 294 162 35.5% BBN Planet backbone AS86 365 224 141 38.6% SURAnet Northern AS AS1691 287 153 134 46.7% ANS-BLK1 AS568 363 255 108 29.8% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS3804 325 218 107 32.9% WorldLinx 3 AS719 545 450 95 17.4% LANLINK autonomous system AS2386 232 137 95 40.9% INS-AS AS2704 271 184 87 32.1% HOOKUP-NET-A AS1790 336 251 85 25.3% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS721 346 265 81 23.4% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS3215 129 55 74 57.4% RAIN AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS813 227 160 67 29.5% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS225 127 61 66 52.0% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS3450 111 46 65 58.6% UTK AS1791 203 141 62 30.5% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS1785 283 223 60 21.2% NYSERNet Backbone AS3996 110 51 59 53.6% FIRN AS2711 109 50 59 54.1% SUNBELT-AS AS855 123 67 56 45.5% NBTel AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N AS2551 348 293 55 15.8% NETCOM On-line Communication Serv --- 23Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS4230 1065 348 717 67.3% Embratel Brazil AS279 903 520 383 42.4% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1271 924 347 27.3% Performance Systems International AS2493 725 454 271 37.4% i*internet AS3602 582 335 247 42.4% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3749 280 72 208 74.3% Tennessee Board of Regents AS3397 290 102 188 64.8% EMI-AS AS3804 387 244 143 37.0% WorldLinx 3 AS2048 259 126 133 51.4% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1691 285 152 133 46.7% ANS-BLK1 AS568 373 264 109 29.2% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS719 542 447 95 17.5% LANLINK autonomous system AS2386 230 136 94 40.9% INS-AS AS1790 337 250 87 25.8% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS1717 461 374 87 18.9% RENATER AS2704 267 182 85 31.8% HOOKUP-NET-A AS721 342 263 79 23.1% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS3215 129 55 74 57.4% RAIN AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS813 227 162 65 28.6% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1791 204 142 62 30.4% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS1785 283 223 60 21.2% NYSERNet Backbone AS3996 111 52 59 53.2% FIRN AS2711 110 51 59 53.6% SUNBELT-AS AS855 123 67 56 45.5% NBTel AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N AS2551 349 294 55 15.8% NETCOM On-line Communication Serv AS701 789 739 50 6.3% Alternet AS560 348 298 50 14.4% BBN Planet, New England Region (N --- 22Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS4230 1090 343 747 68.5% Embratel Brazil AS719 1002 595 407 40.6% LANLINK autonomous system AS279 898 517 381 42.4% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1256 913 343 27.3% Performance Systems International AS2493 724 454 270 37.3% i*internet AS3602 582 335 247 42.4% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3749 281 73 208 74.0% Tennessee Board of Regents AS3397 290 102 188 64.8% EMI-AS AS2048 337 154 183 54.3% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS3804 382 241 141 36.9% WorldLinx 3 AS1 407 268 139 34.2% BBN Planet backbone AS1691 288 152 136 47.2% ANS-BLK1 AS568 349 249 100 28.7% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2386 230 136 94 40.9% INS-AS AS1717 460 370 90 19.6% RENATER AS1790 337 250 87 25.8% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS2704 268 182 86 32.1% HOOKUP-NET-A AS721 342 263 79 23.1% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS3215 129 55 74 57.4% RAIN AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1791 204 142 62 30.4% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS1785 284 222 62 21.8% NYSERNet Backbone AS3996 111 52 59 53.2% FIRN AS2711 109 50 59 54.1% SUNBELT-AS AS813 215 158 57 26.5% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS855 122 67 55 45.1% NBTel AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N AS2551 350 295 55 15.7% NETCOM On-line Communication Serv AS4454 61 11 50 82.0% OIR Telecommunications, State of --- 21Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS4230 961 354 607 63.2% Embratel Brazil AS719 1004 596 408 40.6% LANLINK autonomous system AS279 873 513 360 41.2% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1273 926 347 27.3% Performance Systems International AS2493 724 454 270 37.3% i*internet AS3602 582 335 247 42.4% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3749 280 75 205 73.2% Tennessee Board of Regents AS3397 290 102 188 64.8% EMI-AS AS1 461 297 164 35.6% BBN Planet backbone AS2048 309 148 161 52.1% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS3804 387 244 143 37.0% WorldLinx 3 AS1691 288 152 136 47.2% ANS-BLK1 AS568 371 261 110 29.6% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS86 298 189 109 36.6% SURAnet Northern AS AS2386 230 136 94 40.9% INS-AS AS1717 461 369 92 20.0% RENATER AS560 429 339 90 21.0% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS1790 338 251 87 25.7% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS2704 271 185 86 31.7% HOOKUP-NET-A AS721 345 265 80 23.2% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS3215 129 55 74 57.4% RAIN AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS813 225 159 66 29.3% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1791 204 142 62 30.4% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS1785 284 222 62 21.8% NYSERNet Backbone AS3996 111 52 59 53.2% FIRN AS2711 108 49 59 54.6% SUNBELT-AS AS855 123 68 55 44.7% NBTel AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N --- 20Sep96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS279 985 560 425 43.1% SURAnet Southern AS AS719 1004 596 408 40.6% LANLINK autonomous system AS174 1305 944 361 27.7% Performance Systems International AS2493 725 454 271 37.4% i*internet AS3602 582 335 247 42.4% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS2048 344 150 194 56.4% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS3749 264 74 190 72.0% Tennessee Board of Regents AS3397 290 102 188 64.8% EMI-AS AS1 462 298 164 35.5% BBN Planet backbone AS3804 383 242 141 36.8% WorldLinx 3 AS1691 288 155 133 46.2% ANS-BLK1 AS4230 336 206 130 38.7% Embratel Brazil AS86 299 190 109 36.5% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 356 257 99 27.8% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2386 233 138 95 40.8% INS-AS AS1717 458 367 91 19.9% RENATER AS560 429 340 89 20.7% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS2704 272 184 88 32.4% HOOKUP-NET-A AS1790 338 251 87 25.7% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS721 345 264 81 23.5% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS AS3215 129 55 74 57.4% RAIN AS813 232 161 71 30.6% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3819 98 29 69 70.4% SIGNET AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS701 874 812 62 7.1% Alternet AS1791 204 142 62 30.4% SprintLink Fort Worth TX AS1785 284 222 62 21.8% NYSERNet Backbone AS3996 114 53 61 53.5% FIRN AS2711 110 51 59 53.6% SUNBELT-AS AS855 125 68 57 45.6% NBTel

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Cidr Report in parts - part 1
by Tony Bates 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

Due to what I'm guessing is a problem with the merit mailer it seems to eat my mail message containing the full report so I going to break it up in part to see how that works. --Tony This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Sep 27 12:01:14 PDT 1996 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to xara.net for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to me. In the future I hope to put some (or most) of this report up on the web. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 27Sep96 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 210996 43100 220996 42436 230996 42636 240996 42498 250996 41621 260996 42422 270996 42323 Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- *** Bogus 211.199.11.0 from AS6176 AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 1630 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 644 (330 cidr, 314 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 493 announced by AS3561 Largest number of classful routes: 1268 announced by AS174

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Re: ATM Traceroute middle packet loss?
by Sanjay Dani 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

> No, it's not a Sun issue, it drops every other packet only if I got over > the ATM Backbone. I can trace to another router, a ATM Switch, A CSU > panel, anything and I get the same dropped packet. > I did further testing, and it is every other packet, not just the middle one. Looks like Solaris has the same bug as the ATM link you described. I see every other packet dropped by a Solaris box on my ethernet but not by a linux box on the same ethernet. Sanjay. --------------------------------------------------------------- Web Professionals, Inc. 20370 Town Center Lane, Suite 245 +1 408-865-0899 Cupertino CA 95014 USA http://web.professionals.com --------------------------------------------------------------- World's largest Webspace provider with dedicated domain sites Ref: Open Market's Commercial Sites Index www.directory.net --

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Re: ATM Traceroute middle packet loss?
by Eric D. Madison 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

No, it's not a Sun issue, it drops every other packet only if I got over the ATM Backbone. I can trace to another router, a ATM Switch, A CSU panel, anything and I get the same dropped packet. I did further testing, and it is every other packet, not just the middle one. Eric At 05:11 PM 9/27/96 -0700, maillists wrote: > >> hmm.. >> Seems that every traceroute across an ATM link will result in the middle >> packet being dropped. The ATM Switch nor the Router have any idea that it >> is the second packet.. weird! Anyone have a clue to why that is? >> >> Tracing the route to ns2 >> 1 206.222.97.6 44msec 44msec 44msec >> 2 ns2.acsi.net (206.222.97.50) 44 msec * 44 msec > >I don't think it has got anything to do with ATM. I >bet you that ns2.acsi.net is a Solaris 2 box. Solaris >drops every other icmp echo if it comes too close to >the last one. This I was told is an inadvertent bug >although Sun could claim it to be a feature against >an ICMP flood attack ;-) > >Try tracerouting to sun.com (a SunOS box) and >playground.sun.com (Solaris 2). You'll see the difference. >Also try traceroute with the -q parameter greater than >the default of 3 packets each destination. > >Sanjay. > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Web Professionals, Inc. >20370 Town Center Lane, Suite 245 +1 408-865-0899 >Cupertino CA 95014 USA http://web.professionals.com >--------------------------------------------------------------- > World's largest Webspace provider with dedicated domain sites > Ref: Open Market's Commercial Sites Index www.directory.net >-- > >

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Re: ATM Traceroute middle packet loss?
by Sanjay Dani 28 Sep '96

28 Sep '96

> hmm.. > Seems that every traceroute across an ATM link will result in the middle > packet being dropped. The ATM Switch nor the Router have any idea that it > is the second packet.. weird! Anyone have a clue to why that is? > > Tracing the route to ns2 > 1 206.222.97.6 44msec 44msec 44msec > 2 ns2.acsi.net (206.222.97.50) 44 msec * 44 msec I don't think it has got anything to do with ATM. I bet you that ns2.acsi.net is a Solaris 2 box. Solaris drops every other icmp echo if it comes too close to the last one. This I was told is an inadvertent bug although Sun could claim it to be a feature against an ICMP flood attack ;-) Try tracerouting to sun.com (a SunOS box) and playground.sun.com (Solaris 2). You'll see the difference. Also try traceroute with the -q parameter greater than the default of 3 packets each destination. Sanjay. --------------------------------------------------------------- Web Professionals, Inc. 20370 Town Center Lane, Suite 245 +1 408-865-0899 Cupertino CA 95014 USA http://web.professionals.com --------------------------------------------------------------- World's largest Webspace provider with dedicated domain sites Ref: Open Market's Commercial Sites Index www.directory.net --

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ATM Traceroute middle packet loss?
by Eric D. Madison 27 Sep '96

27 Sep '96

hmm.. Seems that every traceroute across an ATM link will result in the middle packet being dropped. The ATM Switch nor the Router have any idea that it is the second packet.. weird! Anyone have a clue to why that is? Tracing the route to ns2 1 206.222.97.6 44msec 44msec 44msec 2 ns2.acsi.net (206.222.97.50) 44 msec * 44 msec Tracing the route to 206.222.97.5 1 206.222.97.5 16 msec * 16msec ________________________________________________________ Eric D. Madison - Senior Network Engineer ACSI - Advanced Data Servics - ATM/IP Backbone NOC - 800-291-7889 - noc(a)acsi.net

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RE: Advice on dealing with Sprint
by cdc＠GroupZ.net 27 Sep '96

27 Sep '96

I called Sprint. They said to multihome, load balance across to distinct backbones (i.e Sprint & UUNET), and accept the full routing table, I'd have to use a 7000 series. I didn't believe them, so I logged a call with the TAC. They said they knew of no technical reason why the 4500 wouldn't do the trick, but maybe I should call my sales engineer. My sales engineer said the 4500 would to the trick (of course they'd prefer to sell me a 7000), but I might have to accept reduced routes or perform some other kludge to reduce the load on the router; and no telling what the performance would be like 2 months from now. Note: Our primary interest is bypassing problems we're experiencing between Sprint and UUNET via MAE-E, but we'd like to offer the best connectivity to our web servers. I called Sprint back, and they said they could work out a 'Special Customer Arrangement' to deal with the 4500. Based on the e-mail addresses I see on this group, it seems like we should be able to come to some consensus about the viability/sensibility/performance related issues related to this topology. > > I'm extremely suprised that this is their stance. I'm pressed to find a >technical reason behind such a requirement. The 7000 is a Motorola 68XXX >based system, and the 4500/4700 is a risc based system. There have been >performance tests that have shown that the 45/47 boxes out perform the >7000 boxes. I'd be very interested in hearing Sprints' reasoning on this. > >

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