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[rs@bifrost.seastrom.com: Re: NapsRus]
by Robert E. Seastrom 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

This is an excerpt of recent private email regarding the recent proliferation of NAPs-with-no-customers. I'm forwarding it here so that when everyone has a NAP in their trunk y'all can remember where the original concept came from. ---Rob ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:52:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs(a)bifrost.seastrom.com> So anyway, if just announcing it is the only thing it takes to make a NAP and you don't don't even need any customers, let me be the first to announce the VA ZPE-7392 NAP -- the first mobile IP peering point. We are a little short on colocate space now, since there is some junk in the back of my Bronco II, but if there is sufficient interest I can probably put the spare tire in my U-Store. All colocated equipment and networking gear must run on 12v DC, negative ground. ------- End of forwarded message -------

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Re: Laptop 10BaseT?
by William B. Norton 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

Yup, I mis-spoke earlier - we'll have 10BaseT lines off the hub. Still working out the details. BTW - Merit will also have a local dial-in # for registered NANOG attendees - to get an assigned dial-in authentication userid/password, send me e-mail with the subject line: "ACCESS ID Please" or see me at NANOG on Thursday A.M. Cheers - Bill At 05:46 PM 10/17/96 -0700, Kent W. England wrote: >At 11:23 AM 17-10-96 -0400, William B. Norton wrote: >>Randy - >> >>The plan is get a couple of hubs and string a handful of thinnet lines to >>the back of the room for the laptop crowd. People seemed to like this setup >>at D.C. so we're going to do that again. There is also a computer lab down >>the hall in the adjacent building with a hundred or so machines. >> >>Bill >> > >Certainly a big improvement, but I have an Xjack Ethernet PCMCIA card. >10BaseT is a big win for me. Any chance we could have some 10BaseT >along with the thin coax? Then I can leave my coax dongle at home. > >Thanks in advance for better connectivity. > >--Kent > > >

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Cyberpromo.com spam snuffed?
by Paul Ferguson 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

It appears that the infamous cyberpromo site has been disconnected. - paul [snip] % whois cyberpromo.com Cyber Promotions Inc (CYBERPROMO-DOM) 8001 Castor Avenue, Suite 127 Philadelphia, PA 19152 USA Domain Name: CYBERPROMO.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact: Wallace, Sanford (SW430) cyberpr(a)ANSWERME.COM (215) 288-9230 Record last updated on 22-Sep-96. Record created on 26-Apr-96. Domain servers in listed order: NS3.CYBERPROMO.COM 208.9.65.10 NS4.CYBERPROMO.COM 208.9.65.11 The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. % traceroute 208.9.65.10 traceroute to 208.9.65.10 (208.9.65.10), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets [snip] 4 barrnet-gw.cisco.com (192.31.7.37) 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 5 paloalto-cisco.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.9) 4 ms 5 ms 4 ms 6 paloalto-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.89) 6 ms 6 ms 5 ms 7 oakland-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.62) 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 8 * sanjose1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.74) 10 ms 14 ms 9 sanjose1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.74) 10 ms 8 ms 10 ms 10 sl-mae-w-F0/0.sprintlink.net (198.32.136.11) 16 ms 35 ms 32 ms 11 sl-stk-6-H3/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.45) 36 ms 46 ms * 12 * sl-stk-6-H3/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.45) 58 ms !H * 13 * * * [snip]

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Re: The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

Tony Bates <tbates(a)cisco.com> writes: * Even though I try to stay impartial, a couple of things are worthy of * note here. AS455 (Telianet) may want to check a possible leak as an * increase of 455 Classful routes seems a little hard to belive. Others [..] Oops - I meant AS3301 ...apologies... --Tony

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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Oct 18 12:00:00 PDT 1996 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to xara.net for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to me. In the future I hope to put some (or most) of this report up on the web. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 18Oct96 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 121096 41682 131096 41496 141096 41671 151096 42238 161096 42202 171096 42175 181096 42347 Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- *** Bogus 211.199.11.0 from AS6176 AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 1705 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 685 (353 cidr, 332 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 530 announced by AS3561 Largest number of classful routes: 1246 announced by AS174 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 18Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS174 1246 918 328 26.3% Performance Systems International AS3602 623 329 294 47.2% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS2493 774 491 283 36.6% i*internet AS3301 833 571 262 31.5% TeliaNet Sweden AS279 619 397 222 35.9% SURAnet Southern AS AS3397 306 98 208 68.0% EMI-AS AS3749 256 61 195 76.2% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 346 154 192 55.5% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1691 294 152 142 48.3% ANS-BLK1 AS3804 373 236 137 36.7% WorldLinx 3 AS1 427 291 136 31.9% BBN Planet backbone AS86 323 199 124 38.4% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 384 266 118 30.7% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2871 198 92 106 53.5% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS560 433 328 105 24.2% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS2386 225 130 95 42.2% INS-AS AS2704 277 193 84 30.3% HOOKUP-NET-A AS813 240 164 76 31.7% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS719 527 455 72 13.7% LANLINK autonomous system AS4230 219 147 72 32.9% Embratel Brazil AS3819 101 30 71 70.3% SIGNET AS1785 306 239 67 21.9% NYSERNet Backbone AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS855 127 65 62 48.8% NBTel AS3575 80 18 62 77.5% Seanet, Inc AS3996 117 57 60 51.3% FIRN AS3603 97 38 59 60.8% CETCOL - Uniandes AS3566 114 55 59 51.8% JRIVER-LINK AS225 118 60 58 49.2% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS2711 111 54 57 51.4% SUNBELT-AS --- 17Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS174 1269 922 347 27.3% Performance Systems International AS3602 622 332 290 46.6% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS2493 769 490 279 36.3% i*internet AS3301 828 570 258 31.2% TeliaNet Sweden AS279 617 390 227 36.8% SURAnet Southern AS AS3397 306 98 208 68.0% EMI-AS AS3749 258 59 199 77.1% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 345 156 189 54.8% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1691 296 154 142 48.0% ANS-BLK1 AS1 433 293 140 32.3% BBN Planet backbone AS3804 373 236 137 36.7% WorldLinx 3 AS86 324 200 124 38.3% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 382 263 119 31.2% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS560 433 328 105 24.2% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS2871 196 91 105 53.6% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS2386 228 133 95 41.7% INS-AS AS2704 278 194 84 30.2% HOOKUP-NET-A AS813 243 165 78 32.1% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS719 526 454 72 13.7% LANLINK autonomous system AS3819 101 30 71 70.3% SIGNET AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1785 304 240 64 21.1% NYSERNet Backbone AS3575 80 18 62 77.5% Seanet, Inc AS225 120 58 62 51.7% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS855 127 66 61 48.0% NBTel AS3566 115 54 61 53.0% JRIVER-LINK AS2711 110 53 57 51.8% SUNBELT-AS AS3996 113 57 56 49.6% FIRN AS701 823 769 54 6.6% Alternet AS3603 89 35 54 60.7% CETCOL - Uniandes --- 16Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS174 1272 922 350 27.5% Performance Systems International AS279 716 426 290 40.5% SURAnet Southern AS AS2493 767 489 278 36.2% i*internet AS3301 824 569 255 30.9% TeliaNet Sweden AS3602 571 331 240 42.0% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3397 304 100 204 67.1% EMI-AS AS3749 255 56 199 78.0% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 347 149 198 57.1% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1691 295 153 142 48.1% ANS-BLK1 AS1 434 293 141 32.5% BBN Planet backbone AS3804 373 236 137 36.7% WorldLinx 3 AS86 325 201 124 38.2% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 382 265 117 30.6% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2871 198 92 106 53.5% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS560 431 326 105 24.4% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS719 555 457 98 17.7% LANLINK autonomous system AS2386 229 132 97 42.4% INS-AS AS813 252 174 78 31.0% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS2704 273 195 78 28.6% HOOKUP-NET-A AS3575 96 19 77 80.2% Seanet, Inc AS3819 100 30 70 70.0% SIGNET AS4230 209 140 69 33.0% Embratel Brazil AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1785 302 238 64 21.2% NYSERNet Backbone AS225 120 58 62 51.7% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS3566 112 52 60 53.6% JRIVER-LINK AS3603 95 37 58 61.1% CETCOL - Uniandes AS855 124 67 57 46.0% NBTel AS2711 111 54 57 51.4% SUNBELT-AS AS3996 106 51 55 51.9% FIRN --- 15Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS279 846 490 356 42.1% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1265 922 343 27.1% Performance Systems International AS2493 767 489 278 36.2% i*internet AS3602 592 337 255 43.1% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3301 823 568 255 31.0% TeliaNet Sweden AS3397 305 101 204 66.9% EMI-AS AS3749 254 52 202 79.5% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 348 150 198 56.9% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1691 291 150 141 48.5% ANS-BLK1 AS3804 372 235 137 36.8% WorldLinx 3 AS1 428 291 137 32.0% BBN Planet backbone AS568 367 256 111 30.2% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS86 308 202 106 34.4% SURAnet Northern AS AS2871 197 91 106 53.8% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS719 557 458 99 17.8% LANLINK autonomous system AS2386 229 134 95 41.5% INS-AS AS2704 273 192 81 29.7% HOOKUP-NET-A AS560 399 322 77 19.3% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS3575 96 19 77 80.2% Seanet, Inc AS813 247 172 75 30.4% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3819 99 30 69 69.7% SIGNET AS1785 301 237 64 21.3% NYSERNet Backbone AS3566 113 53 60 53.1% JRIVER-LINK AS3603 97 38 59 60.8% CETCOL - Uniandes AS3450 105 46 59 56.2% UTK AS3996 108 50 58 53.7% FIRN AS225 118 60 58 49.2% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS2711 110 53 57 51.8% SUNBELT-AS AS1790 234 178 56 23.9% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS855 124 69 55 44.4% NBTel --- 14Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS279 841 489 352 41.9% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1256 915 341 27.1% Performance Systems International AS2493 764 487 277 36.3% i*internet AS3602 573 329 244 42.6% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3397 304 100 204 67.1% EMI-AS AS3749 256 56 200 78.1% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 349 150 199 57.0% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1691 296 154 142 48.0% ANS-BLK1 AS1 422 283 139 32.9% BBN Planet backbone AS3804 372 235 137 36.8% WorldLinx 3 AS86 334 211 123 36.8% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 374 261 113 30.2% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2871 191 90 101 52.9% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS719 557 458 99 17.8% LANLINK autonomous system AS560 423 326 97 22.9% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS2386 230 135 95 41.3% INS-AS AS2704 273 192 81 29.7% HOOKUP-NET-A AS813 246 171 75 30.5% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3575 95 21 74 77.9% Seanet, Inc AS3819 99 30 69 69.7% SIGNET AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1785 300 236 64 21.3% NYSERNet Backbone AS3566 115 52 63 54.8% JRIVER-LINK AS225 120 58 62 51.7% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS1790 239 180 59 24.7% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS2711 110 53 57 51.8% SUNBELT-AS AS855 122 66 56 45.9% NBTel AS3603 95 39 56 58.9% CETCOL - Uniandes AS3301 328 272 56 17.1% TeliaNet Sweden AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N --- 13Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS279 843 490 353 41.9% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1256 915 341 27.1% Performance Systems International AS2493 766 488 278 36.3% i*internet AS3602 568 327 241 42.4% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3397 301 97 204 67.8% EMI-AS AS2048 349 150 199 57.0% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS3749 255 58 197 77.3% Tennessee Board of Regents AS1 426 286 140 32.9% BBN Planet backbone AS1691 292 154 138 47.3% ANS-BLK1 AS3804 372 235 137 36.8% WorldLinx 3 AS86 334 209 125 37.4% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 371 259 112 30.2% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2871 191 90 101 52.9% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS719 556 458 98 17.6% LANLINK autonomous system AS560 423 326 97 22.9% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS2386 230 135 95 41.3% INS-AS AS2704 274 193 81 29.6% HOOKUP-NET-A AS3575 96 19 77 80.2% Seanet, Inc AS813 243 169 74 30.5% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3819 99 30 69 69.7% SIGNET AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1785 300 236 64 21.3% NYSERNet Backbone AS3566 115 52 63 54.8% JRIVER-LINK AS225 120 58 62 51.7% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS3301 380 319 61 16.1% TeliaNet Sweden AS1790 239 180 59 24.7% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS3603 96 38 58 60.4% CETCOL - Uniandes AS855 123 66 57 46.3% NBTel AS2711 111 54 57 51.4% SUNBELT-AS AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N --- 12Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS279 838 488 350 41.8% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1259 917 342 27.2% Performance Systems International AS2493 767 489 278 36.2% i*internet AS3602 593 337 256 43.2% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS3397 301 97 204 67.8% EMI-AS AS3749 256 56 200 78.1% Tennessee Board of Regents AS1 427 287 140 32.8% BBN Planet backbone AS1691 295 156 139 47.1% ANS-BLK1 AS3804 372 235 137 36.8% WorldLinx 3 AS86 335 210 125 37.3% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 357 253 104 29.1% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2871 191 90 101 52.9% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS719 557 458 99 17.8% LANLINK autonomous system AS560 422 325 97 23.0% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS2386 230 135 95 41.3% INS-AS AS2704 273 192 81 29.7% HOOKUP-NET-A AS3575 96 19 77 80.2% Seanet, Inc AS813 241 168 73 30.3% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3819 99 30 69 69.7% SIGNET AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS1785 300 236 64 21.3% NYSERNet Backbone AS225 120 58 62 51.7% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS3301 380 319 61 16.1% TeliaNet Sweden AS1790 239 180 59 24.7% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS855 123 66 57 46.3% NBTel AS3566 112 55 57 50.9% JRIVER-LINK AS2711 109 52 57 52.3% SUNBELT-AS AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N AS4230 154 99 55 35.7% Embratel Brazil AS701 817 763 54 6.6% Alternet --- 11Oct96 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS279 815 477 338 41.5% SURAnet Southern AS AS174 1187 865 322 27.1% Performance Systems International AS3602 591 336 255 43.1% Intergrated Network Services Inc. AS2493 706 452 254 36.0% i*internet AS3397 305 101 204 66.9% EMI-AS AS3749 256 55 201 78.5% Tennessee Board of Regents AS2048 347 152 195 56.2% State of Louisiana/Office of Tele AS1 426 286 140 32.9% BBN Planet backbone AS1691 294 155 139 47.3% ANS-BLK1 AS3804 372 235 137 36.8% WorldLinx 3 AS86 334 210 124 37.1% SURAnet Northern AS AS568 379 263 116 30.6% JIS (Joint Interconnection Servic AS2871 189 89 100 52.9% Internet Services GmbH & Co AS719 556 457 99 17.8% LANLINK autonomous system AS560 423 326 97 22.9% BBN Planet, New England Region (N AS2386 230 135 95 41.3% INS-AS AS2704 262 184 78 29.8% HOOKUP-NET-A AS813 245 170 75 30.6% UUNET Canada (ASN-UUNETCA-AS1) AS3819 99 30 69 69.7% SIGNET AS1785 301 235 66 21.9% NYSERNet Backbone AS3450 112 47 65 58.0% UTK AS225 120 58 62 51.7% University of Virginia (VIRnet) AS3301 378 317 61 16.1% TeliaNet Sweden AS3603 97 38 59 60.8% CETCOL - Uniandes AS1790 241 182 59 24.5% SprintLink Washington D.C. AS2711 110 53 57 51.8% SUNBELT-AS AS855 122 66 56 45.9% NBTel AS839 90 35 55 61.1% North West Territories Regional N AS4230 149 95 54 36.2% Embratel Brazil AS3996 105 52 53 50.5% FIRN 2) Weekly Delta This a daily snapshot of changes in classful routes being withdrawn and added. the deltas are calculated over a rolling 7 day period. Please bear in mind this is purely a "snapshot" and a large flucuation could be caused by a connectivity problem for example. However, this does give some indication of service providers that are moving to classless routing. Top 20 Withdrawn Routes from 11Oct96 to 18Oct96 -196 AS279 SURAnet Southern AS -52 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. -42 AS4983 Intel Corporation Autonomous Syst -37 AS1221 AARNET-AS -31 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ -29 AS719 LANLINK autonomous system -26 AS1791 SprintLink Fort Worth TX -20 AS2561 Egyptian Networks -17 AS71 Hewlett-Packard -13 AS262 JVNC-II-AS -11 AS2548 DIGEX-AS -10 AS2277 ECUANET -9 AS594 BBN Planet Eastern Region (ER) ba -8 AS3254 LUCKY-NET Autonomous system -7 AS1767 IndNet AS -5 AS1290 PSINet UK Ltd. -4 AS839 North West Territories Regional N -3 AS3739 NEWNET -2 AS517 Xlink -1 AS5403 APA-Media-Network Top 20 Added Routes from 11Oct96 to 18Oct96 455 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 107 AS5650 Electric Lightwave Inc. and XMiss 70 AS4230 Embratel Brazil 68 AS2493 i*internet 60 AS297 NASA Internet 59 AS174 Performance Systems International 54 AS1798 State of Oregon 53 AS3575 Seanet, Inc 48 AS3566 JRIVER-LINK 44 AS3564 Microserve Infromation Systems In 40 AS1749 NASA-GSFC-AS 34 AS4747 APNIC-AS-BLOCK 32 AS3602 Intergrated Network Services Inc. 28 AS6203 ISDN-Net Inc. 24 AS270 Program Support Communication Net 22 AS2381 WISCNET1-AS 20 AS3845 STATE-NET 17 AS3663 NETNET-NET 15 AS2704 HOOKUP-NET-A 13 AS611 University of New Brunswick 3) Interesting aggregates List of possibly interesting aggregates --------------------------------------- aggregate origin-AS AS Description 9.2.0.0/16 AS1747 IBM Watson, Yorktown Heights, 9.20.0.0/17 AS2686 Autonomous System number for I 9.67.0.0/19 AS3561 MCI 57.12.0.0/16 AS5384 Etisalat Emirates Internet 128.145.228.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 128.167.7.0/24 AS86 SURAnet Northern AS 128.188.1.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 129.181.216.0/22 AS517 Xlink 130.168.105.0/24 AS1270 EUnet Germany 130.168.115.0/24 AS1270 EUnet Germany 130.168.125.0/24 AS1270 EUnet Germany 130.188.2.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.188.3.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.188.150.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.188.252.0/24 AS565 VTT autonomous system 130.205.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 130.252.178.0/24 AS1321 ANS San Francisco - DNSS 11 131.114.192.0/18 AS2598 Consiglio Nazionale delle Rice 131.115.211.0/24 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 131.115.254.0/24 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 131.117.0.0/17 AS559 SWITCH, Swiss Academic and Res 132.235.204.0/24 AS3561 MCI 134.6.160.0/22 AS2706 HKSUPER 134.6.180.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 134.33.100.0/24 AS701 Alternet 134.129.64.0/18 AS6263 NDIN 134.198.8.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.16.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.24.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.32.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.40.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.48.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.56.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.64.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.72.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.96.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.168.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.192.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.232.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.198.240.0/21 AS3593 Eastern Pennsylvania Internet 134.204.14.0/24 AS3561 MCI 134.204.176.0/24 AS3561 MCI 134.241.109.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 135.14.65.0/24 AS3111 Internet Direct Inc. (ASN-DIRE 135.16.150.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 135.37.2.0/24 AS3561 MCI 135.37.4.0/24 AS3561 MCI 135.37.10.0/24 AS3561 MCI 135.40.66.0/24 AS3561 MCI 136.140.9.0/24 AS3561 MCI 137.62.197.0/24 AS1794 SprintLink Pennsauken NJ 138.95.80.0/24 AS701 Alternet 138.108.100.0/24 AS3561 MCI 138.182.252.0/24 AS5855 Secretary of the Navy 138.182.254.0/24 AS5855 Secretary of the Navy 139.46.35.0/24 AS560 BBN Planet, New England Region 139.61.102.0/24 AS3111 Internet Direct Inc. (ASN-DIRE 139.61.103.0/24 AS3111 Internet Direct Inc. 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PIPEX International 160.104.0.0/17 AS701 Alternet 160.104.128.0/17 AS1290 PSINet UK Ltd. 161.6.0.0/17 AS3561 MCI 161.6.128.0/17 AS3561 MCI 161.22.0.0/24 AS1790 SprintLink Washington D.C. 161.51.224.0/20 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 161.52.192.0/19 AS2845 SUNET-LUND 161.120.6.0/24 AS3561 MCI 161.173.243.0/24 AS2386 INS-AS 161.223.220.0/22 AS1 BBN Planet backbone 161.223.224.0/24 AS1 BBN Planet backbone 162.17.253.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 162.81.141.0/24 AS3561 MCI 163.12.0.0/23 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.5.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.16.0/22 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.21.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.22.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.23.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.24.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.32.0/19 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.64.0/20 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.81.0/24 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.84.0/22 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.88.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.96.0/19 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.128.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.136.0/22 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.144.0/20 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.160.0/19 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.192.0/21 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.12.240.0/20 AS3576 PREPnet-EAST 163.44.224.0/21 AS4853 Justsystem Corporation 163.44.240.0/21 AS4853 Justsystem Corporation 163.49.131.0/24 AS3561 MCI 163.49.132.0/22 AS3561 MCI 163.49.136.0/22 AS3561 MCI 163.49.140.0/23 AS3561 MCI 163.49.142.0/24 AS3561 MCI 163.168.212.0/24 AS3303 Unisource Business Networks (S 163.249.43.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.53.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.54.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.57.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.140.0/22 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.160.0/21 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.168.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.169.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 163.249.170.0/24 AS3739 NEWNET 164.52.249.0/24 AS1982 Northwest Nexus, Inc. 164.53.55.0/24 AS2706 HKSUPER 164.100.64.0/20 AS3561 MCI 164.100.80.0/24 AS4755 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Indi 164.100.81.0/24 AS3561 MCI 164.100.82.0/23 AS3561 MCI 164.100.84.0/22 AS3561 MCI 164.100.88.0/21 AS3561 MCI 164.100.96.0/19 AS3561 MCI 164.100.167.0/24 AS3561 MCI 164.100.199.0/24 AS4755 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Indi 164.103.3.0/24 AS3561 MCI 164.224.208.0/20 AS5855 Secretary of the Navy 165.108.130.0/24 AS3561 MCI 165.108.130.0/23 AS3561 MCI 165.108.132.0/22 AS3561 MCI 165.108.136.0/21 AS3561 MCI 165.108.144.0/22 AS3561 MCI 165.108.148.0/23 AS3561 MCI 165.113.197.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.198.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.199.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.211.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.113.219.0/24 AS6006 UNKNOWN 165.166.123.0/24 AS3561 MCI 165.215.64.0/18 AS4183 CompuServe, Incorporated 165.215.191.0/24 AS5090 CWI-NYD 165.247.33.0/24 AS5696 Primary AS for GoodNet 165.247.47.0/24 AS5696 Primary AS for GoodNet 165.247.77.0/24 AS5696 Primary AS for GoodNet 166.38.40.0/24 AS3561 MCI 166.147.0.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.147.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.147.128.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.147.192.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.0.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.128.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.150.192.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.0.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.64.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.128.0/18 AS3561 MCI 166.151.192.0/18 AS3561 MCI 167.77.32.0/24 AS3561 MCI 167.105.232.0/24 AS3561 MCI 167.170.6.0/23 AS3313 I.Net S.p.A. 167.170.32.0/23 AS3313 I.Net S.p.A. 167.208.125.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.14.1.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.14.2.0/23 AS3561 MCI 168.14.4.0/22 AS3561 MCI 168.14.8.0/21 AS3561 MCI 168.14.16.0/20 AS3561 MCI 168.29.0.0/17 AS3492 ATLANTA 168.175.70.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.175.170.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.175.171.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.175.172.0/24 AS3561 MCI 168.224.128.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 168.247.253.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 168.247.254.0/24 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 169.132.80.0/24 AS5000 IDT Corporation 169.137.170.0/24 AS3407 Interpath 169.200.1.0/24 AS3561 MCI 170.115.249.0/24 AS4969 Net Access 170.194.51.0/24 AS1849 PIPEX, Public IP EXchange 171.18.1.0/24 AS3215 RAIN 171.25.128.0/20 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 171.25.128.0/19 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 171.25.144.0/21 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 171.25.152.0/21 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 171.30.170.0/24 AS2856 BTnet UK Regional network 194.23.1.36/30 AS3305 Internet Service Provider back 194.178.245.32/28 AS5417 Demon Internet Ltd 194.237.174.0/29 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 194.237.174.8/29 AS3301 TeliaNet Sweden 194.237.174.32/27 AS3308 TeliaNet Denmark 198.32.130.128/26 AS2685 IGN OpenNet - US 199.99.247.32/27 AS174 Performance Systems Internatio 199.233.98.0/25 AS6082 MAI Network Services 199.233.98.128/25 AS6082 MAI Network Services 202.50.137.64/27 AS2687 OpenNet-AP 204.148.62.0/26 AS1673 ANS-BLK1 205.156.223.176/28 AS2702 Spry AS 205.213.126.192/27 AS3128 UW-Madison 207.65.126.0/26 AS6203 ISDN-Net Inc.

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hole punching reality check
by randy＠psg.com 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

Provider P allocates a block of address space A to customer, I an ISP. I allocates a /24, call it B, out of that block to one of their customers, C. C later leaves ISP I and gets a wire directly from provider P. I wishes to give C time to renumber. I would expect the world to see the following announcements. A - I announcing a shorter prefix, A B - P announcing a more specific for the /24 allocated to C Is this not what we all expect? Why I ask is we have provider P telling I that they should stop announcing A and instead announce a bunch of prefixes around the /24. randy

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dial-in in Ann Arbor
by jon＠branch.com 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

Branch has a limited amount of unused dial-in modems (and ISDN) that we can make available to NANOG attendees for a couple of days. Please send me mail if you would like to make use of them. -- (313) 741-4442 http://branch.com/ Jon Zeeff Branch Internet Services Inc. jon(a)branch.com *** WWW Hosting Services, WWW Site Development and the Branch Malls ***

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Re: generators, etc....
by William Allen Simpson 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

> From: Curtis Villamizar <curtis(a)ans.net> > If we hold BBN to the same standards that the telco industry uses to > come up with 99.999%, BBN was up but "a few customers" experienced a > localized outage. This would be brushed off the same as the Illinious > AT&T fire at the POP that took out much of the Chicago suburbs for > about a week. It doesn't count against the 99.999%. (Otherwise AT&T > owes Chicago a couple thousand years of flawless service:). > I remember my complaint on the IETF list some years back, when NSFnet/ANS would routinely tout high availability, by eliminating any link outages from their report, as they were not under its control ... or route flaps greater than 5 minutes, for unknown reasons. ;-) WSimpson(a)UMich.edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32 BSimpson(a)MorningStar.com Key fingerprint = 2E 07 23 03 C5 62 70 D3 59 B1 4F 5E 1D C2 C1 A2

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RE: Windows/NT to break the Internet?
by Peter Ford 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

Hank, Have your tried to replicate your customer's problem? We have tested setting the prefix mask in the IP stack in NT 4.0 and it can be set to prefixes longer than 24. cheers, peter >---------- >From: Hank Nussbacher[SMTP:hank@ibm.net.il] >Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 7:47 AM >To: nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Windows/NT to break the Internet? > >How long can the Internet last if every customer needs to get a /24? >That is what appears to be with Windows/NT 4.0. This server has >lately become very popular with small customers that install an NT >server and a few PCs and want a connection. ISPs up to know would assign >a /26 or perhaps a /27 or even a /30 to SOHOs like this. Windows NT 4.0 >when defining the address range as well as the DNS and inverse - only has >space in the form for 3 octets. They assume you are a /24 or larger. I >have had customers come back to me and say that they can't even enter >the 255.255.255.224 mask I gave them on their system since the NT doesn't >support it. Let alone the problems with inverse subnetting that there >is a draft RFC out there that almost everyone follows. Seems to have >slipped by the people in Oregon, though. > >I have been very careful up till now to make optimal use of IP address >space but I fear with the plenthora of WinNT 4.0s out there we will see >2% utilization of IP address space in the future. > >Am I missing something here on WinNT installs? Or is Microsoft gonna >cause the IP address space to expire sooner than we had planned? > >Hank Nussbacher >IBM Israel > >

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Re: GigaRouter (Was Re: Cisco as Big Brother))
by John G. Scudder 18 Oct '96

18 Oct '96

At 12:49 AM -0500 10/18/96, Jeremy Porter wrote: >So did they get all the nasty crashing bugs out of >Netstar's broken version of gated? At 8:46 AM -0400 10/18/96, Dima Volodin wrote: >You said - "gated"? Oh my gawd... It's very popular in some circles to bash gated; I'm not quite sure why. I'm seldom able to get specific, substantive criticisms from people who make comments like these, other than to say that the configuration language is not obvious and not well-documented (I agree, for now). Like any piece of software, gated does of course have some bugs in it, but I haven't seen evidence that it has more or more egregious bugs than other routing protocol implementations. And it gets a lot of things right that some people don't -- for example, it sends withdraws only for routes it has announced. I could go on, but I won't. The bugs are, of course, being worked on as they are found, just as with any other software. IMO gated's stability is pretty decent at this point. Likewise, it's missing some features, which are also being worked on. The proof of the pudding is of course in real-world use. As I assume most people on this list know, more than one large, respected backbone operator uses (or has used until recently) gated as their routing software, for quite some time. I've seen no evidence to suggest that gated is problematic for them; quite the contrary. Regards, --John -- John Scudder email: jgs(a)ieng.com Internet Engineering Group, LLC phone: (313) 669-8800 122 S. Main, Suite 280 fax: (313) 669-8661 Ann Arbor, MI 41804 www: http://www.ieng.com

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