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OFF TOPIC: where are spam control lists?
by Phil Howard 28 Oct '97

28 Oct '97

I'm looking for mailing lists specifically related to various methods of spam control procedures, technology, and legal issues. I know that this is not the right list unless it is related to network operational issues. I just figured at least one of you guys would know where. Please mail to me direct with what you know to find such lists and I'll summarize if there is interest in the summary. Construct my e-mail address from the signature. -- Phil Howard +-------------------------------------------------------------+ KA9WGN | House committee changes freedom bill to privacy invasion !! | phil at | more info: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,14180,00.html | milepost.com +-------------------------------------------------------------+

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LATE NOTICE: NANOG MBONE BROADCAST SET UP AND NOW BEING BROADCAST
by k claffy 27 Oct '97

27 Oct '97

sorry folks, we know nanog announced last week it would be able to make it, but thanks to the noble dedication of Jeff Rizzo from Digital Internet Exchange and Rodney Joffe at Genuity (NANOG host this time) (and of course to the vivid complaints from those nanog devotees that couldn't be here in person) we've got Mbone broadcasting of nanog as of 5 minutes ago -- audio and video, and i'll set up a whiteboard for feedback now -- (early reports indicate that audio is 'uh, about as good as usual') fwiw k

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FCC proposes V-Chip for computers, from Time/Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 27 Oct '97

27 Oct '97

THE V CHIP, COMING TO A COMPUTER NEAR YOU Time Magazine November 3, 1997 Page 36 If you hated the idea of a V chip in your television, wait until you hear that the government wants to install one in your computer. TIME has learned that the FCC has proposed that new PCs be outfitted with a V chip to filter out video violence and sex. Still unclear is what Net broadcasts could be affected. The idea alarms free-speech advocates, who wonder why Americans need a Net-nanny. "What you get is a devolution of the First Amendment," argues lawyer Bob Corn-Revere. FCC chairman REED HUNDT says the high-tech industry can "be part of the process" as the agency sets rules. There's a low-tech alternative: the off switch. --By Declan McCullagh/Washington ********** For details check out the Netly News (netlynews.com) at: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1528,00.html -Declan

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Agenda for Interprovider Ops BOF at NANOG 11
by Jake Khuon 27 Oct '97

27 Oct '97

It just occurred to me that an agenda was never published for the BOF. Sorry for the late announcement. Hope to see some of you there. Interprovider Operations BOF - NANOG 11 Agenda I. Introduction (Jake Khuon) A. Participant's List and Survey Form B. Notetaking Volunteer C. Agenda Bashing II. "Smurfing" - The Latest Denial of Service Attack and How to Minimize Its Effects (Craig Huegen) III. PAIR - Policy Analysis of Internet Routing A. Introduction and Overview (Jake Khuon) B. PAIR In Use (Abha Ahuja) IV. New Route Server Developments A. RS Autoreconfiguration (Jake Khuon) B. RADB Extensions to Support RS Peering (Abha Ahuja) V. NANOG OPS WG discussion (Jake Khuon) A. Do we need one? B. Publications series? C. Charter? VI. Other Discussions (open) -- /*====================[ Jake Khuon <khuon(a)Merit.Net> ]=====================+ | Systems Research Programmer, IE Group /| /|[~|)|~|~ N E T W O R K | | Vox: (313) 763-4907 Fax: (313) 747-3185 / |/ |[_|\| | Incorporated | +==[ Suite C2122, Bldg. 1 4251 Plymouth Rd. Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 ]==*/

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cisco rsh enable
by Steve Lalonde 27 Oct '97

27 Oct '97

try this in conf mode ip rcmd rsh-enable ip rcmd remote-host username ip username where username is username on the looking glass box and ip is the looking glass ip address. Steve Lalonde Systems Manager ENTANET International Ltd The answer's YES what's the question? -----Original Message----- From: Leigh Porter <leigh(a)wisper.net> To: Alex Rubenstein <alex(a)nac.net> Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: 27 October 1997 09:16 Subject: Re: OK. >Alex Rubenstein wrote: > >> I am a moron; I can't figure it out. >> >> How do you make a cisco so that you can rsh into it (to use Mr. Kerns >> looking glass)? >> >> TIA> > >Lets create a moron's mailing list, I cannot find it either.. >-- > >Leigh Porter - Wisper Bandwidth Plc - http://www.wisper.net >GeekCode - http://saratoga.wisper.net:9999/~leigh/ >Set UR PC 3 - http://www.linux.org > > >

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Mbone help at NANOG 11.
by Rodney Joffe 27 Oct '97

27 Oct '97

OK. We have a Sun Sparc with a S Video card, and camera. We need a volunteer to help us configure it for the MBone feed first thing on Monday... Any takers? Thanks Rodney Joffe Chief Technology Officer Genuity Inc., a Bechtel company http://www.genuity.net

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router monitoring
by brett watson 26 Oct '97

26 Oct '97

don't know how many people checked this out last time but you might want to see: www.vix.com/rtrmon you'll want to tailor to your tastes and needs but we use it to monitor: bgp peer state ospf adjacency state cpu utilization get/put configs for archiving we also use it to auto-login to routers expect-like so you don't have to type names/passwords. the password gunk is hidden under pgp for each user. it's very extensible and easy to add modules to monitor any number of things that might be specific to your environment. -brett

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Re: OK.
by mark＠exodus.net 26 Oct '97

26 Oct '97

That is not true. You don't need to have a local user configured on the router in order to use rsh or rcp. It is only needed if you aren't doing some type of remote authentication like tacacs. I would however suggest that you avoid rsh family commands on your routers. If you do feel that it is essential to use them make sure to use tacacs and aaa acounting to log all command transactions. To not do so is to ask for trouble. Mark Tripod Exodus Communications ---- From: Jamie Rishaw <jamie(a)intuition.iagnet.net> To: Todd R. Stroup <tstroup(a)fibernet.net> Cc: cosmo(a)olywa.net; alex(a)nac.net; nanog(a)merit.edu Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 10:21 AM Subject: Re: OK. Todd R. Stroup wrote: > > Looking at the source for the looking-glass though it doesn't use the > username option for rsh command. When useing the cisco command below > don't you have to use the rsh username? > > ip rcmd remote-host www 206.183.224.12 nobody > > I changed the ip of the $ROUTER in lg.pl to > "www\(a)ipaddress.of.router" instead of "ipaddress.of.router" > which seems to work. I kept getting Permission Denied without it. You need to make sure that in 'ip rcmd' that you have local-username defined to something that there is a 'username xxx' entry on the cisco for. In other words, if you have (sorry syntax is probably not correct): ip rcmd remote-host joebob lookingglass.yourcompany.com daemon enable you have to have a 'username joebob' entry on the cisco as well. local-username means "apply the permissions of local-username when this rsh matches" and remote-username is the userid of whatever your cgi-bin runs as.. if your web server is setuid "daemon" and cgi-bins are daemon, it will only work if you have 'daemon' as a remote-username in the ip rcmd command. HTH, -jamie -- jamie g.k. rishaw dal/efnet:gavroche __ IAGnet/CICNet/netILLINOIS Netops DID:216.902.5455 FAX:216.623.3566 \/ 800.637.4IAGx5455 "It's like im being tied to the hood of a yellow rental truck being packed in with fertilizer and fuel oil.. pushed over a cliff by a suicidal mickey mouse."

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Pre-NANOG tutorial on routing on the web...
by Avi Freedman 26 Oct '97

26 Oct '97

It's not really a detailed document, but at: http://www.netaxs.net/nanog/iq/ You can find an html-icized power point presentation that should resemble somewhat my tutorial tomorrow night pre-NANOG in Phoenix. My apologies to jaw(a)op.net for not composing the presentation in perl, roff, tcl, tex, vi macros, emacs lisp, forth or something that he can easily parse. If there are any specific topics/questions that people want to be covered, or any topics for which people want diagrams inserted, let me know by e-mail and if IP is up early enough @ the hotel I'll try to throw some extra slides in. The assumption is that the viewer is somewhat familiar with basic static routing as well as basic BGP configs (info about those topics and about route announcements/"how the Internet works" can be found @ the boardwatch.com archives). Thanks, Avi

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Possible topic?
by Justin W. Newton 26 Oct '97

26 Oct '97

Hi there, Is it possible, even at this late date, to allow someone from MFS to comment at NANOG on what is being done to relieve inter switch congestion at MAE East and West and what kind of time frames we can expect a resolution in? This is seriously affecting the performance of the Internet as a whole, and seems to me to be a very valid operational topic for the conference. ************************************************************** Justin W. Newton voice: +1-650-482-2840 Senior Network Architect fax: +1-650-482-2844 PRIORI NETWORKS, INC. http://www.priori.net Legislative and Policy Director, ISP/C http://www.ispc.org "The People You Know. The People You Trust." **************************************************************

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