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Re: Which pipe dream should we be smoking? (was Re: Possible topic?)
by Vadim Antonov 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

>Aren't all the Gigaswitches from DEC ATM backed anyway? (FDDI is an >emulation on an OC3/12 card slot?) That's what the DEC literature seemed >to say when I perused it last. Not. Gigaswitch is a crossbar-based _packet_ switch. I recall reading fairly comprehensive article on its internals. Most likely it is still available from somewhere on Internet. If i understand correctly, its ATM interfaces do packet shredding/reassembly. --vadim

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Sprint NAP
by jvanick＠megsinet.net 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

Hi There, I know that this is a little off-topic, but I was wondering if anybody could give me any pointers on who to contact to get into the sprint nap... we're bringing up OC3c to Ameritech NAp and a concentrated-FDDI connection into MAE-East, and while we're running through the east coast area we though we'd get into the sprintnap as well... Any info would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Jason Jason Vanick ------------------------------------------ jvanick(a)megsinet.net Network Operations Manager V: 312-245-9015 MegsInet, Inc. 225 West Ohio St. Suite #400 Chicago, Il 60610

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Exchange point stats info
by Jeremy Porter 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

I was wondering if someone who knew something about the current status of the group(s) that were working on a standard data collection format for exchange point statistics, could speak up. It seems to me that operators could still get valuable trend information out of published data from exchange points. However this data would be more useful if compared accross multiple exchange point, as there are at least 40 in north america alone. (Although most of those are smaller exchange points.) (Then if we could just get providers to publish info on private exchange points...) --- Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. jerry(a)fc.net PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 1-800-968-8750 | 512-458-9810 http://www.fc.net

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Re: Which pipe dream should we be smoking?
by David Lesher 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

Steven Schnell sez: > > > FDDI is a finished standard and no more bandwidth upgrades are planned. > Ethernet, however, is now in the gigabit range. It may be extended to > operate in the multi-gigabit range, if the IEEE decides the frame format > and the media access method will work at such speeds. Products based on > GbE are in use today. A NAP can drop in one or two GbE switches, connect > them to existing GIGAswitch/FDDIs, and scale (somewhat) from there. Come > to NANOG this next week to see how this can be done. See http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/beowulf/beowulf.html for an application of Packet Engine GbE. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Re: Which pipe dream should we be smoking? (was Re: Possible topic?)
by Peter Lothberg 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

> > > Actually, there is at least one known way to build an exchange > > point which scales nearly indefinitely. We're working on making > > it real. Other folks may have other ideas. > > Cool, Vadim; welcome to the ATM bandwagon! > > :-) > > -alan > Most likely you are better off not on the ATM bandwagon, but a good exchange point has to support even the people who beleives in cells, and maybe enough people se the brick-wall before they smash into it.. If the exchange_points becomes "WEB-farms" I'm not so sure they will survive, as there is no_one responsible for the service, as all lives in the "DMZ-zone". -Peter

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Operational issue (Mae-west)
by dlr＠bungi.com 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

Once again, mae-west is experiencing problems between gigaswitch #1 and gigaswitch #2. We are seeing consistant, and high, loss between peers. MFS has at least one ticket open on this now. -- Dave Rand dlr(a)bungi.com http://www.bungi.com

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Syn flooding attacks
by Paulo Maffei 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

Hi, I had heard about a solution to Syn Floodind attack, but I'd like to be sure about it so I could keep researching about these solutions. I had heard that I could set up a filter in my router that would wait for the second ACK packet after the SYN request and SYN-ACK response before finish the whole connection with the server. Is it true? -- Paulo Maffei Email : Paulo.Maffei(a)br.global-one.net

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Web Biz Universal Remove List Update
by postmaster＠thehitman.com 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

Dear NANOG Mailling List, Thank you for adding your address to the Universal Remove list This email is simply a notification that you have been added to or updated in our Universal Remove list(s). As a reminder, you submitted the following details to: www.thehitman.com NANOG Mailling List at nanog(a)merit.edu Responsible Direct Email DOES exist at Web Biz!

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Does NANOG hate Microsoft?
by Jay R. Ashworth 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 12:20:55PM -0400, Sandra Gittlen wrote: > Jay, is Nanog suggesting a freeze-out of Microsoft traffic? Not remotely. The NANOG mailing list connected a community of people who are involved in one way or another with the operations of public and private IP networsk in North America. The target topic on the list is operational issues, and some members have tighter filters on this than others. Randy Bush's are likely the tightest. The customary snide response to a posting to the list which someone considers to be too far off topic is "how do I configure my router for that?" Randy's posting was a clever, if somewhat obscure, allusion to that. I simply took the thought to it's logical conclusion -- but Microsoft _isn't_ real popular with many technical people, for reasons which aren't that difficult to research. MORAL: Journalists: always check with someone before sourcing anything from this mailing list. Members: always remember, the press is listening. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "People propose, science studies, technology Tampa Bay, Florida conforms." -- Dr. Don Norman +1 813 790 7592

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CNN - Justice seeks $1 million a day contempt fine against Microsoft - October 20, 1997
by Hagai Yardeny 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9710/20/microsoft.ap/index.html

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