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Ligistics; Wireless..
by Andrew J. Doane 14 May '98

14 May '98

Which wireless standard will be supported? 802.11 or openair? /ajd/ -- _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Andrew J. Doane _/ _/ _/ _/ Director, Network Operations _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ American Information Systems, Inc. _/ _/ _/ _/ Email: adoane(a)ais.net, http://www.ais.net _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ (312) 255-8500 Voice, (312) 255-8501 Fax For my PGP public key, email me with the subject "pgp request"

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Re: 1.1.1.0/24
by Sean Donelan 14 May '98

14 May '98

>has a classfull C somewhere on the net. As for filtering 1.1.1.1/24 or >the entire block because it is reserved for that matter, who is to say >that with the address space thinning out that the IANA won't start >allocating it? Some poor provider is going to be route filtered on a >totally legitimate block if we use your reasoning. Its called "Network Management" and not "Network forget about it" for a reason. I'm making no statement about filtering by prefix length. Unassigned is true whether it is a unassigned traditional Class A 1.0.0.0/8 address or a unassigned Class ? 254.0.0.0/32 address. IANA has been exceptionally careful to document and put in a public place all its assignments. A careful network manager could check this public information on a regular basis and use it to verify the information they are hearing from others. Address hijacking is a major and growing problem. There are two ways to stop it, and I would suggest you need to do both. You can either trust everyone will only announce their own routes properly, or you can check the routes you recieve that they have in fact been delegated to the person announcing it. Or in the case of 1.1.1.0/24, delegated at all. There are extremes, you can check every single prefix or you can do no checking at all. Or you can do some intermediate level of checking such as filtering 'Martian' addresses, or addresses unassigned or reserved by IANA. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: Spam .. Find the sender !
by Sean Donelan 14 May '98

14 May '98

I was wondering where the Men in Dark Glasses went. I doubt the kiddies have stopped their pranks. We used get the confused US Secret Service agent showing up in person asking us to looking up the address; but they stopped sometime last summer. I figured they had finally gotten their own Internet $19.95 account and could do the WHOIS themselves. Oh, I get it.... do the WHOIS themselves. >As a person who has been getting a call and/or email from the US Secret >Service, the FBI, the NCIS, and probably the CIA (but if they told me, >they'd have to kill me of course), every other week, I'll just say the >clueless don't need encouragement (also, it'd be nice if someone in the US >gov't could read the little lines that say "check the APNIC database before >contacting APNIC". But then again, why should the US Gov't be any >different that the people in the US?) -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: Core router bakeoff?
by shields＠crosslink.net 14 May '98

14 May '98

In article <Pine.BSI.3.93.980514011954.4143A-100000(a)sidhe.memra.com>, Michael Dillon <michael(a)memra.com> wrote: > If you were using ssh for secure access then the answer would be to find a > machine with a web browser, go to http://www.datafellows.com and download > the 30-day free trial version of the Windows or Mac ssh client as > appropriate, and, voila!, you have secure access to your network. And if you were using Kerberized telnet you would download the clients from your own web page and voila! (Of course neither of these is a substitute for doing the telnet from your trusted laptop) -- Shields, CrossLink.

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Metrics?
by Chris A. Icide 14 May '98

14 May '98

This is an request for some information for a presentation I'm looking at putting together. I was wondering what special things that people out there use routing metrics for? For example, IGP metrics might be used to determine the shortest path through a network when two paths exist. Some people define these staticaly, some dynamicaly. Metrics in the EGP might be used to tell a peer or customer the "distance" from the destination from that particular edge location in your network. Obviously, these are the simple uses, what are the other uses that folks put metrics to? -Chris

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Wired Q: Embedded NT
by James Glave 14 May '98

14 May '98

Hi all, James Glave at Wired News again. This time around I am seeking opinions on behalf of a friend up at Wired (the print magazine) -- concerning embedded NT. I couldn't find any discussion in the nanog archive, so I'm wondering if anoyne here has any experience with, or knowledge of, embedding NT in networking hardware - if that even makes any sense....? >From: Jesse Freund <freund(a)wired.com> >i'm working on a piece about nt-embedded and i have a couple of questions. >i'm hoping you might be able to hook me up with a smart network operator or >someone else in the know or perhaps you know. basically, i'm curious why >the hell someone would want a version of nt embedded in a switch or router? >and who provides the custom solutions nt-embedded is meant to replace? Thanks, all! jtg James Glave, Senior Technology Writer Wired News http://www.wired.com (415) 276-8430 Unstoppable Force of the Week: "Gettin' jiggy wit' it!"

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Re: bogon dns registrations
by Ehab Hadi 14 May '98

14 May '98

Yep, I confirm what you observed. wwwdell ---> porno URL. wwcompaque ----> map to an Ip_address: 205.187.99.19 --> Phone Book Site. wwwsun.com ----> Gambling site Ehab Hadi Northern Telecom ehabh(a)nortel.ca >From owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Thu May 14 08:35:02 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01981; > Thu, 14 May 1998 11:25:08 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by merit.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:28 -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA01852 > for nanog-outgoing; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:27 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from home.merit.edu (home.merit.edu [198.108.60.42]) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01845 > for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:21 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (from ljb@localhost) by home.merit.edu (8.8.8/merit-2.0) id LAA16312 for nanog(a)merit.edu; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:20 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from nacs.net (sjsobol(a)devel.nacs.net [207.166.192.85]) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21788 > for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:48:02 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (from sjsobol@localhost) > by nacs.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA14329; > Wed, 13 May 1998 21:47:57 -0400 >Message-ID: <19980513214756.61332(a)devel.nacs.net> >Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:47:56 -0400 >From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)devel.nacs.net> >To: steve c blair <sblair(a)dev.tivoli.com> >Cc: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra(a)scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>, nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Re: bogon dns registrations >References: <199805130719.DAA13278(a)db3.troy.psi.com> <support(a)psi.com> <199805130719.DAA13278(a)db3.troy.psi.com> <19980513193102.45090(a)scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> <199805132346.SAA24442(a)devmail.dev.tivoli.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 >In-Reply-To: <199805132346.SAA24442(a)devmail.dev.tivoli.com>; from steve c blair on Wed, May 13, 1998 at 06:47:59PM -0500 >Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu > >On Wed, May 13, 1998 at 06:47:59PM -0500, steve c blair wrote: >> so how do companies sue the internic: >> >> wwwdell.com >> wwwsun.com >> wwwibm.com >> wwwcompaq.com >> >> are just a few of the typo-happy abusers I've found this afternoon. in >> dell's case it was >> an explicit porno site. > >If there is a suit, it would most likely not be against the Internic, >it would be against the porn sites... > > >-- >Steven J. Sobol - Founding Member, Postmaster/Webmaster, ISP Liaison -- >Forum for Responsible & Ethical E-mail (FREE) - Dedicated to education about, >and prevention of, Unsolicited Broadcast E-mail (UBE), also known as SPAM. > >Info: http://www.ybecker.net or Usenet: <6i6eeu$kr9$1(a)camel18.mindspring.com> > >mailto: sjsobol(a)nstc.com, sjsobol(a)nacs.net, sjsobol(a)apk.net > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: 1.1.1.0/24 #cs-220368
by Joseph McGean 14 May '98

14 May '98

Hi, Don't know 1.0.0.0 assigned to: ARIN Database> 1.0.0.0 IANA (RESERVED-9) Netname: RESERVED-9 Netnumber: 1.0.0.0 Coordinator: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA-ARIN) iana(a)iana.org (310) 822-1511 Record last updated on 02-Mar-98. Database last updated on 12-May-98 16:09:12 EDT. The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's. Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related Information and nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. Thank you, Joe McGean Netwatch PSINet

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RE: Core router bakeoff?
by GUESDON Herve CNET/DSE/ISS 14 May '98

14 May '98

> ---------- > De : Neil J. McRae[SMTP:neil@domino.org] > Répondre à : Neil J. McRae > Date : mardi 12 mai 1998 16:39 > Cc : perry(a)piermont.com; 'Andrew Bangs'; jcgreen(a)netins.net; > nanog(a)merit.edu; neil(a)domino.org > Objet : Re: Core router bakeoff? > > On Mon, 11 May 1998 12:13:27 +0200 > GUESDON Herve CNET/DSE/ISS <herve.guesdon(a)cnet.francetelecom.fr> wrote: > > > I use both CISCO GRF400 and GateD. I think that GateD is the best > > easy to use and develop public routing software. But even if the GRF400 > > runs GateD, it's not as reliable as a CISCO 7500 per example. > > The GRF400 has to much bugs to be an operational backbone router. > > For example when you redistribute static routes via BGP, the GRF > > redistributes the adress IP of the non telecommunication port to. > > This is rubbish and sounds like you haven't RTFMed. I redistribute > static routes throughout with the GRF and it works fine. > This problem happens only if you mention in gated.conf export proto bgp as xxxx { proto direct { all ; } ; } ; Then the IP address of de0 is redistributed. > > The Ascend technical center is not helpful nor the documentation. > > And the performance are limited to an average of 50k pps per card. > > I agree that the TAC is as good as useless the manuals of the GRF are > toilet paper, fortuently I've used BSD/OS and gated for a while so I > know my way around. > > I've seen a GRF tested to more than 50000 pps so I'd like to hear how > you came to that conclusion. > I tested a GRF400 with Netcom Systems Smartbits with L3 cards. Ethernet frames were 64 bytes long and the ethernet card of the GRF 400 began to drop packets when the aggregate througput reached 55000 pps. > > But with the time i think that the GRF could be a good alternative > > towards CISCO. > > Its already is a good alternative. > > Regards, > Neil. > -- > Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. > neil(a)DOMINO.ORG NetBSD-1.3 released! ftp://ftp.uk.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD > Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A> >

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Re: 1.1.1.0/24
by John Fraizer - Administrator 14 May '98

14 May '98

Looks like PSInet is demonstrating their complete and total lack of clue again. [root@eth0-core0]:/ # traceroute 1.1.1.1 traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 core1-eth0-EnterZone.Columbus.FNSI.Net (209.115.127.21) 1.214 ms 1.174 ms 1.365 ms 2 border1-atm6.SanJose.fnsi.net (206.183.239.94) 59.736 ms 61.64 ms 59.389 ms 3 nw.sc.psi.net (198.32.128.53) 62.116 ms 63.285 ms 61.419 ms 4 ce.sc.psi.net (38.1.3.2) 137.828 ms 136.418 ms 133.547 ms 5 rc4.central.us.psi.net (38.1.22.4) 135.99 ms 139.26 ms 135.874 ms 6 dallas12.tx.isdn.psi.net (38.146.199.119) 136.319 ms 137.073 ms 133.949 ms 7 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) 172.03 ms 182.249 ms 188.195 ms [rs.arin.net] IANA (RESERVED-9) Netname: RESERVED-9 Netnumber: 1.0.0.0 Coordinator: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA-ARIN) iana(a)iana.org (310) 822-1511 Record last updated on 02-Mar-98. Database last updated on 12-May-98 16:09:12 EDT. At 03:55 PM 5/13/98 +0900, you wrote: >who's living here? > >-sasaki > > -------------------------------------------------- > SJS1>sh ip bgp > BGP table version is 15571821, local router ID is 158.205.224.4 > Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal > Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete > > Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path > * 1.1.1.0/24 204.70.158.109 80 0 3561 174 i > * i 137.39.136.73 80 0 701 174 i > *> 137.39.252.17 80 0 701 174 i > ...snip... > > SJS1>ping 1.1.1.1 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echoes to 1.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds: > !!!!! > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 96/208/396 ms > SJS1> > -------------------------------------------------- > > ------- John Fraizer (tvo) | __ _ | The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:tvo@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation A 486 is a terrible thing to waste...

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