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Re: Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US) (http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c5
by Tim Salo 03 Sep '98

03 Sep '98

> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:57:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: Patrick Greenwell <patrick(a)namesecure.com> > To: Tim Salo <salo(a)networkcs.com> > cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US) (http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c5 > > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Tim Salo wrote: > > > > Did the idiots at SAIC forget that they don't *own* the domain information > > > again? > > > > And, what makes you think that NSI doesn't have intellectual property > > rights to the whois database. Again, please frame your answer in the > > context of the applicable Federal law and regulations, probably the > > FARs and the contract or cooperative agreement between NSI and the NSF. > > > > And, even if NSI doesn't "own" rights (either copyright or trade secret) to > > the whois database, what makes you think that NSI must provide the > > database to anyone else? And, if NSI is obligated to provide the database > > to another party, (e.g., the U.S. Government), what makes you think that > > that party is permitted or obligated to provide it to another party? > > > > I don't know that the answers are to these questions, but I haven't met > > anyone who I thought had a clue either. > > Take a look at http://www.cavebear.com/nsf-dns/ for some answers (or more > questions depending on your POV.) Note that Karl's document: o Is focused on whether the whois database is within the purview of the Privacy Act of 1974, but doesn't directly address the ownership of the whois database; o Doesn't discuss the relevance of the FARs, which explicitly talk about the ownership rights of government contractors; and o Says that the NSF asserts that NSI owns the whois database. -tjs

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Installation Services for MAE-EAST / WEST ?
by Jan Czmok 03 Sep '98

03 Sep '98

Does anybody of you offer installation services at MAE - EAST and MAE-WEST. Specifically, we would like to install our new B-STDXes there and switch some lines from T1 to DS3 (simply re-wiring and also new-connecting). Ascend is offering that service, but the $$$ is much too high. (Otherwise i have to travel to the states from germany) Timeframe: within next 4 Weeks Please respond via email to: czmok(a)ipf.de Jan -- Jan Czmok, IPF.NET Senior Network Engineer email: czmok(a)ipf.de, Phone +49 69 17084-52

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Re: Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US) (http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c5
by Tim Salo 03 Sep '98

03 Sep '98

> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:48:52 -0400 > From: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol(a)nacs.net> > To: Kate Lance <clance(a)connect.com.au> > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu, cgomes(a)internic.net > Subject: Re: Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US) (http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c5 > > On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 10:18:20AM +1000, Kate Lance wrote: > > And here is the breathtaking job description: > > > > Director Database Marketing > > Job Description: > > Senior professional responsible for devising and executing programs in > > direct Marketing customer intimacy, and new product development using > > the date and information assets of NSI. At heart of the Internet & > > registration of nearly 2 million .com, .org, .net addresses, NSI is > > positioned to assist its customers by introducing products and services > > designed to suit their needs. Director will "own" the information > > assets of the company and employ them to drive revenue. > > Did the idiots at SAIC forget that they don't *own* the domain information > again? And, what makes you think that NSI doesn't have intellectual property rights to the whois database. Again, please frame your answer in the context of the applicable Federal law and regulations, probably the FARs and the contract or cooperative agreement between NSI and the NSF. And, even if NSI doesn't "own" rights (either copyright or trade secret) to the whois database, what makes you think that NSI must provide the database to anyone else? And, if NSI is obligated to provide the database to another party, (e.g., the U.S. Government), what makes you think that that party is permitted or obligated to provide it to another party? I don't know that the answers are to these questions, but I haven't met anyone who I thought had a clue either. -tjs

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Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US) (http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c5
by Alan Sullivan - VoTiV Systems 03 Sep '98

03 Sep '98

FYI, Sorry for those who cannot read HTML attachments, ignore last message.... Interesting web link... Anybody want a job to market whois? http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c53a.html

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Re: FR Tidbit [was: 56k modems/frame/ptp revisited (LONG)]
by Dan Jones 03 Sep '98

03 Sep '98

Scott, I'm curious. Is your assertion that "CIR is guaranteed only under "normal" conditions" based on the Frame Relay spec or a paticular vendor(s) implementation? I ask because I have been in that very debate for some time (usually with a FR vendor justifying lousey performance). My tendancy is to take the "Comitted" in CIR literally. It's my understanding that the FR congestion management routines (at least the Stratacom one - Foresight?) will only back off bursty PVC to the point where it's <= CIR. The implication then is that you'll always get at least CIR - which makes sense since that's what you're paying for. Dan At 08:45 AM 9/1/98 -1000, scott w wrote: > > > >On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Scott, Dan wrote: > >[snip] >> line and port, but the important parameter is the committed information rate >> you purchase from the carrier. Most of Sprint's frame relay business may >[snip] >>from 0-56kbps. Can purchase 56kbps CIR, but it costs extra, would need >[snip] > >CIR is guaranteed only under "normal" conditions. You won't get it under >heavy congestion. Find out the MIR configured for your PVC. I don't know >if they will tell you though... > >scott > > >

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Director Database Marketing (Herndon VA US) (http://www.saic.com/career/jobs/c5
by Alan Sullivan - VoTiV Systems 02 Sep '98

02 Sep '98

FYI... Cheers, Alan

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MAE-EAST / WEST Connection Possibilities
by Jan Czmok 02 Sep '98

02 Sep '98

Hi! Does anybody know if the statement "mfs can offer atm ds3 connection to the mae-west and mae-east ehternet from colo space" issued by a german salesperson is true. According to the www.mfst.com webpage i only see possiblities for 10 Mbit Ethernet, HSSI or FDDI. Any help is appreciated! Jan -- Jan Czmok, IPF.NET Senior Network Engineer email: czmok(a)ipf.de, Phone +49 69 17084-52

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Remote Whois
by Brandon Handeland 02 Sep '98

02 Sep '98

Has anyone seen a Rwhois server for Windows NT available out on the Internet. I have been looking for months and have yet to find one. Any suggestions are appreciated. Brandon Handeland Systems Engineer wyoming.com LLC NOC(a)wyoming.com Network Operations Abuse(a)wyoming.com Email Abuse Complaints (SPAM) Postmaster(a)wyoming.com Mail Administration NOC (307) 856-4220 x 117 FAX (307) 856-1499 ~~ Opinions are mine and do not necessarily represent those of wyoming.com LLC~ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------

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Installation Services ????
by Jan Czmok 02 Sep '98

02 Sep '98

Does anybody of you offer installation services at MAE - EAST and MAE-WEST. Specifically, we would like to install our new B-STDXes there and switch some lines from T1 to DS3 (simply re-wiring and also new-connecting). Ascend is offering that service, but the $$$ is much too high. (Otherwise i have to travel to the states from germany) Timeframe: within next 4 Weeks Please respond via email to: czmok(a)ipf.de Jan -- Jan Czmok, IPF.NET Senior Network Engineer email: czmok(a)ipf.de, Phone +49 69 17084-52

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Re: NSI Bulletin 098-010 | Update on Whois
by bmanning＠vacation.karoshi.com 02 Sep '98

02 Sep '98

> Why not use rwhois and distribute the load like DNS is? Let registerants > decide if they want to provide rwhois support for their own domain(s) or > if they want to delegate the task to the InterNIC to handle it. > > Gee... imagine being able to update data about your DNS domains immediately > instead of having to wait for the InterNIC to process the request. > > Just my $0.02. > > -- > Dan Watts > Vitts Networks > dwatts(a)vitts.com Actually, you could kill two birds w/ one stone by keeping the data in your inverse delegations. There has been some thought on this which could double as a distributed IRR, esp. for those who have trouble getting to/through those centralized databases. A brief note on how this might be done may be found at: http://www.isi.edu/div7/people/bmanning.home/inet98.html if I might toot my own horn here. Note that this is similar to, but does not go quite as far as the presentation given at a recent NANOG mtg. --bill

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