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Information on cross-lata transit
by Robert Boyle 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

Hello All, Please let me know if there a telcom-carrier list to which this question should be addressed. Many of you seem to be the most familiar with telco/carrier/equipment issues of any list that I know of. Thanks. NJ is divided into two LATA's both served by Bell Atlantic, because of the 1984 consent decree, B.A. cannot provide transit across this LATA. I need to find any one of the following immediately... 1. A CLEC/ILEC/LD/landline/fiber/microwave carrier that can (and will) provide an NNI to NNI interconnection so I can connect the northern BA FR cloud to the southern BA FR cloud. - For less than the ~ $2000/MRC I have been quoted for a 768k PVC. 2. Someone willing to rent a small amount of space with a physical presence in both LATAs. A building built on the LATA border, an office complex, etc... I will use xDSL, wireless, Ethernet, whatever to connect the two LATAs as long as they are close enough in proximity. I don't mind infrastructure expenditures, it's the MRC that kills me. I will even give them free Internet access. :) 3. A way to have B.A. do this for me. Can this be done if I file a SRA with B.A. and the PUC or is this beyond their jurisdiction and in FCC territory. 4. A carrier with REASONABLE rates that can cross the LATA in NJ. I will pay up to ~ $1200/month end-to-end, but that's already more than twice the MRC for two BA FR circuits. TIA, Robert Robert Boyle Server Co-location, Garden Networks Internet Access, 50 Diller Ave Development & Consulting Newton, NJ 07860 (973)300-9211 Ext.103 8AM-8PM Mon-Fri EST http://www.garden.net Quality Internet Connectivity Nationwide

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Lucent WaveLAN PC Cards?
by Wayne 22 Oct '98

22 Oct '98

Does anyone know it there will be support for the new 802.11 2.4GHz WaveLAN cards at the Atlanta NANOG or only the older, non 802.11 compliant ones? Either way, can someone recommend a clueful wholesale distributor (or worst case, "retail" dealer) of the Lucent WaveLAN hardware so that I can buy an appropriate PC card before I come? Regards, -- Wayne D. Correia Critical Path Inc. main: +1.415.808.8800 CTO <wayne(a)cp.net> San Francisco, CA 94105 fax: +1.415.826.6100 InterNIC: (WAYNE-ORG) http://www.cp.net 24/7 mobile: +1.415.826.6000 "we handle the world's email." http://www.cp.net/contactus/jobs.html http://www.iw.com/print/current/infrastructure/19981012-hosting.html

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Colocation for MAE-EAST / MAE-WEST
by Jan Czmok 22 Oct '98

22 Oct '98

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi! Which ISPs/ CARRIERs offer bridged MAE-EAST / MAE-WEST COLOCATION (and other Exchanges) besides the MFS/WORLDCOM COLOCATIONS. I just get really sick about MFS ... Please repeat to me by private email: czmok(a)ipf.de Greetings - --- Jan Czmok Senior Network Engineer IPF.NET Service Provider GmbH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNi+Ar+xodCrDtTgJAQFtIwQAu2J2w9hFJ4Pk01HLecP0SnNTOQRMbfq4 2MY+AaUuKTLnYMlokdH1HuNSMIAMhMUbLWYpbw6TFXxM2HIyNfv9Ru9qpoVtSavA zHXX4D632sowycs0KBTHarLBXt18Gh3m51eQFqynOL/1AXXDWy/XhaUPX545b5bv ahNuiqyAOGE= =YDyG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ISP communities
by Philippe Strauss 22 Oct '98

22 Oct '98

Hi there, Is there any web site summarizing communities defined by major ISP? I'm looking for UUnet (AS701), MCI (euhh C&W sorry) (AS3561), BT (AS5400). Of course, their communities are not published in the whois database, like UU europe (AS702), Ebone (AS1755), Swisscom (AS3303). TIA, Cheers. -- Philippe Strauss, ingenieur systeme/reseau, Urbanet SA philippe.strauss(a)urbanet.ch tel +41 21 623 30 20 --

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Re: Actions to quiet the Smurf amplifiers?
by Phil Howard 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

> If you search on the Cisco web page, you'll probably find it > under "reverse-path" or "reverse-path forwarding" - only works > for singly homed customers. Then it is merely similar, and not identical, to what I described. What I described included the notion that the source address must be in the set of all (not just the best) routes back. The theory on this is that even most asymmetric routing will have a lesser route that would be symmetric. Of course some really goofed assymetric routes do often appear and those may be trouble. Still, the place where ISPs should apply it is all the interfaces _other_ _than_ their border interfaces. They will have control over their own routing symmetry (hopefully) and the logic (at least as I describe it) applies to packets coming _in_ on an interface, not those going out. -- -- *-----------------------------* Phil Howard KA9WGN * -- -- | Inturnet, Inc. | Director of Internet Services | -- -- | Business Internet Solutions | eng at intur.net | -- -- *-----------------------------* philh at intur.net * --

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VHSN 98 is coming!
by Account of Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

*************************************************************** 9th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks December 14-15, 1998 *************************************************************** Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research University of Maryland Baltimore County Supported by CISCO, Nortel Networks and CESDIS/NASA The Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research (MCTR) at the University of Maryland Baltimore County (UMBC) will hold the 9th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks (VHSN '98) on December 14-15, 1998. The Workshop will be held in the Ballroom of the University Center on the UMBC campus. The goal of the workshop is to provide a forum where researchers and developers can meet to exchange ideas and report on leading- edge developments in the area of high speed networks. Each of the previous workshops attracted approximately 150 researchers representing academia, industry and government. The two day meeting will include invited speakers and contributed presentations. Papers on selected presentations will appear in a special issue of the Journal of High Speed Networks. The agenda, driving directions, and other information regarding the conference can be found at the URL http://www.mctr.umbc.edu. A registration fee of $350 will include two lunches and conference proceeding. For questions regarding the technical content of the workshop or giving a presentation, please contact the workshop organizer: Dr. Deepinder Sidhu, Tel: (410) 455-3028 or 3063, Fax: (410) 455-3969, Email: mctr(a)cs.umbc.edu. Mail checks (payable to University of Maryland Foundation) and registration form to Dr. D. Sidhu, Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research, University of Maryland Baltimore County, 1000 Hilltop Circle, Baltimore, MD 21250. All funds for this event will be managed by the UM foundation. Please DO NOT include hotel accommodation expenses in your payment for the Workshop Registration. Room payment should be made directly to the hotel you selected for stay. The following hotels are closest to UMBC campus. Some hotels may offer reduced rate. To obtain the reduced rate, you must identify yourself as an attendee of this workshop. BWI Airport is approximately five miles from UMBC Campus. * Sheraton International Hotel - BWI Airport. Closest to airport and UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 859-3300 or (800) 638-5858 * Holiday Inn - BWI Airport. Close to airport and UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 859-8400 or (800) HOLIDAY * Omni Inner Harbor Hotel. Close to Downtown Baltimore/Inner Harbor. About 20 minutes drive to UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 752-1100 or (800) 843-6664 For more information on the workshop and directions to UMBC, check our home page on WWW (http://www.mctr.umbc.edu) --------------------------------------------------------------- VHSN '98 REGISTRATION FORM (December 14-15, 1998) Name: Affiliation: Address: Tel: Fax: Email: Dietary Restrictions: Vegetarian ------ Kosher -------- ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Summary: Data Center Design Mailing List
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

I posted a summary from home last night, but I haven't seen it come through yet so I'm reposting this slightly revised edition. Thanks to everyone that responded to my query about mailing lists on data center design. It turns out that there is already a list dedicated to this purpose: send a message to majordomo(a)shorty.com with "subscribe datacenter" in the body. There is a companion mailing list hosted on the same server called "dce" that is for trading and/or selling used data center equipment. Thanks to Robbie Honerkamp for running these lists and pointing them out to me. Thanks also to the kind folks that offered resources to run a mailing list. Jeff

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Summary: Data Center Design Mailing List
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

Thanks to everyone that responded to my query about mailing lists on data center design. It turns out that there is already a list dedicated to this purpose: send a message to majordomo(a)shorty.com with "subscribe datacenter" in the body. There is a companion mailing list hosted on the same server called "dce" that is for trading and/or selling used data center equipment. Jeff

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Re: Wired News on Backhoe Troubles
by Sean Donelan 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

>Participants in the North American Network Operators Group email >discussion list -- the primary shop talk forum for telecom and ISP >engineers -- have been bandying about ideas for a new T-shirt. The backhoe is the usual suspect. And this week the U.S. government is launching its Y2K awareness campaign. Texas network facilities are still drying out. None of which I really want to think about at the moment (my brain is fried on appletalk and who cares about CLNS). But does anyone have predictions for next year's Rodent Of the Year? A couple of years ago it was a wayward Stanford rat which blacked out a bit of the net in San Francisco. Although some conspiricy theoriests claim the rat was made a scapegoat. The rat did get a T-Shirt. I think this year's winner was a hungry gopher which gnawed through some fiber optic in New Mexico. Do sharks still like to chew on trans-oceanic cables? LessonsLearned: Did you know standby generator makers have a universal key for the maintenance hatches on your generator sitting outside your building. All 'authorized' service people all over the country have it. How many folks knew there was a black market for generator starting batteries? How many folks have ever gone outside to their generator and found the battery gone? When was the last time you checked? How many folks have tamper switches on their generator panels? How many folks just picked up the phone to have their facilities people install some? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Who do we appreciate...?
by Jay R. Ashworth 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

This seemed pertinent... -----Forwarded message from RFC Editor <rfc-ed(a)ISI.EDU>----- To: rfc-dist(a)rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 2468 on I REMEMBER IANA Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:19:23 -0700 From: RFC Editor <rfc-ed(a)ISI.EDU> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 2468: Title: I REMEMBER IANA Author(s): V. Cerf Status: Informational Date: October 1998 Mailbox: vcerf(a)mci.net Pages: 4 Characters: 8543 Updates/Obsoletes/See Also: None I-D Tag: None URL: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2468.txt Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF list and the RFC-DIST list. Requests to be added to or deleted from the IETF distribution list should be sent to IETF-REQUEST(a)IETF.ORG. Requests to be added to or deleted from the RFC-DIST distribution list should be sent to RFC-DIST-REQUEST(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Details on obtaining RFCs via FTP or EMAIL may be obtained by sending an EMAIL message to rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG with the message body help: ways_to_get_rfcs. For example: To: rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG Subject: getting rfcs help: ways_to_get_rfcs Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to RFC-Manager(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution.echo Submissions for Requests for Comments should be sent to RFC-EDITOR(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Please consult RFC 2223, Instructions to RFC Authors, for further information. Joyce K. Reynolds and Alegre Ramos USC/Information Sciences Institute -----End of forwarded message----- -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Buy copies of The New Hackers Dictionary. The Suncoast Freenet Give them to all your friends. Tampa Bay, Florida http://www.ccil.org/jargon/ +1 813 790 7592

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