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Summary: Data Center Design Mailing List
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

Thanks to everyone that responded to my query about mailing lists on data center design. It turns out that there is already a list dedicated to this purpose: send a message to majordomo(a)shorty.com with "subscribe datacenter" in the body. There is a companion mailing list hosted on the same server called "dce" that is for trading and/or selling used data center equipment. Jeff

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Re: Wired News on Backhoe Troubles
by Sean Donelan 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

>Participants in the North American Network Operators Group email >discussion list -- the primary shop talk forum for telecom and ISP >engineers -- have been bandying about ideas for a new T-shirt. The backhoe is the usual suspect. And this week the U.S. government is launching its Y2K awareness campaign. Texas network facilities are still drying out. None of which I really want to think about at the moment (my brain is fried on appletalk and who cares about CLNS). But does anyone have predictions for next year's Rodent Of the Year? A couple of years ago it was a wayward Stanford rat which blacked out a bit of the net in San Francisco. Although some conspiricy theoriests claim the rat was made a scapegoat. The rat did get a T-Shirt. I think this year's winner was a hungry gopher which gnawed through some fiber optic in New Mexico. Do sharks still like to chew on trans-oceanic cables? LessonsLearned: Did you know standby generator makers have a universal key for the maintenance hatches on your generator sitting outside your building. All 'authorized' service people all over the country have it. How many folks knew there was a black market for generator starting batteries? How many folks have ever gone outside to their generator and found the battery gone? When was the last time you checked? How many folks have tamper switches on their generator panels? How many folks just picked up the phone to have their facilities people install some? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Who do we appreciate...?
by Jay R. Ashworth 21 Oct '98

21 Oct '98

This seemed pertinent... -----Forwarded message from RFC Editor <rfc-ed(a)ISI.EDU>----- To: rfc-dist(a)rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 2468 on I REMEMBER IANA Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:19:23 -0700 From: RFC Editor <rfc-ed(a)ISI.EDU> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 2468: Title: I REMEMBER IANA Author(s): V. Cerf Status: Informational Date: October 1998 Mailbox: vcerf(a)mci.net Pages: 4 Characters: 8543 Updates/Obsoletes/See Also: None I-D Tag: None URL: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2468.txt Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF list and the RFC-DIST list. Requests to be added to or deleted from the IETF distribution list should be sent to IETF-REQUEST(a)IETF.ORG. Requests to be added to or deleted from the RFC-DIST distribution list should be sent to RFC-DIST-REQUEST(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Details on obtaining RFCs via FTP or EMAIL may be obtained by sending an EMAIL message to rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG with the message body help: ways_to_get_rfcs. For example: To: rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG Subject: getting rfcs help: ways_to_get_rfcs Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to RFC-Manager(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution.echo Submissions for Requests for Comments should be sent to RFC-EDITOR(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Please consult RFC 2223, Instructions to RFC Authors, for further information. Joyce K. Reynolds and Alegre Ramos USC/Information Sciences Institute -----End of forwarded message----- -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Buy copies of The New Hackers Dictionary. The Suncoast Freenet Give them to all your friends. Tampa Bay, Florida http://www.ccil.org/jargon/ +1 813 790 7592

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Jon Postel (Flowers & Donations) (fwd)
by Forrest Houston 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

I thought some people here might be interested in knowing this. This is for general distribution so please forward it on to where you feel it is appropriate. Please remove my name though as I already get enough mail as it is :-) Thanks Forrest Houston USC/ISI - IPCe [cut here] ---------------- Forwarded mail ---------------------- Jon's family has issued the following statement regarding flowers and donations: In lieu of flowers... Two funds have been established by the Internet Society: one for an endowed chair at UCLA and the other to endow an award for someone whose service to the Internet honors Jon's memory. Checks can be sent to: Jonathan B. Postel Endowed Chair Fund or Jonathan B. Postel Service Award Fund Internet Society 12020 Sunrise Valley Drive Suite 210 Reston, VA 20191-3429 USA Tel: 703-648-9888 Donations may be also directed in Jon's name to: The Sierra Club 3435 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 320 Los Angeles, CA 90010 Tel: 213-387-4287 The California Arboretum Foundation 301 N. Baldwin Ave Arcadia, CA 91007 Tel: 626-447-8207 The Red Cross [any chapter in the world] ...or to any charity of your choice. You can electronically post a condolence message about Jon by sending it to postel-condolences(a)isoc.org. They're being collected and displayed at http://www.isco.org/postel/condolences.shtml ----------------------------------------------------

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Re: WARNING: AOL is hosed (again)
by Sean Donelan 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

markb(a)infi.NET (Mark Borchers) writes: >Yep, somebody modified the delegation via a forged domain >modification email. An emergency root server update has been done to >correct the problem. Gosh, I wonder if NSI would do an emergency root server update for me. Perhaps it would be a good time to review the Guardian documentation. Is there a way to review what the Guardian settings are for various objects? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Data Center Design Mailing List?
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

I've been extremely interested in the discussion that has happened lately regarding design considerations for data centers. I'm interested in having some more detailed discussions on this subject but I'm not sure that NANOG is the best place for such a discussion. If there isn't a list already out there for this purpose I'd be willing to host a mailing list on a system of mine (assuming that enough people participate). Comments? Jeff

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NetEdge NES8000
by brandon＠rd.bbc.co.uk 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

I saw these mentioned a while ago, do people still use them? We have one we no longer need (seems a waste to bin it), would it be useful to anyone for spares? It's an 8000-00 rev c chassis with 3 * 4 port 10M AUI cards 8000-101 and the more useful bit a 8000-119 ATM card. Regards, brandon -- Brandon Butterworth phone: 01737 836592 BBC Research & Development fax: 01737 832336 Kingswood Warren, Tadworth email: brandon(a)rd.bbc.co.uk Surrey, KT20 6NP URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/

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Internet2 project
by Lou Camaratta 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

Hi, I'm a senior at the University of Pennsylvania. Myself and two other students are currently working on our senior design project. We are trying to design a process/method for the handling of trouble tickets for Internet2. Some of the issues we are trying to address are: tying existing trouble ticketing systems from various universities together; interaction between universities, GigaPoPs, and the 2 ISPs (Qwest and VBNS); structure of the ticketing system (access rights, handling procedures, etc. For those of you familiar with I2, we would be very grateful for any feedback you could provide. In addition, any information that you could provide concerning trouble ticket systems for high speed WANs would be greatly appreciated. All information will be used only for research purposes and will be kept confidential. Thanks for your time. Lou Camaratta - camaratt(a)seas.upenn.edu

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Re: They pulled a BIFF
by Kelly J. Cooper 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

Early 1990's, when I was at Rutgers in NJ, we called it: "Backhoe-Induced Deep Fade" Kelly J. On Oct 20, 7:27am, TTSG wrote: > Subject: They pulled a BIFF *Hi, * * I was wondering if anyone has heard of the following term. I *received it as a notification of an outtage from a vendor : * *At 5:35 CST, October 19, 1998 our AT&T backbone had 23 T-3's cut by a *contractor. This caused a massive BIFF (Backhoe Induced Fiber Failure). * * Tuc/TTSG * >-- End of excerpt from TTSG

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Re: Jon Postel (Flowers & Donations) (fwd)
by Forrest Houston 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

Oops! Sorry about that, someone just sent a correction for the URL. It should be: http://www.isoc.org/postel/condolences.shtml Forrest On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Forrest Houston wrote: > > You can electronically post a condolence message about Jon by sending > it to postel-condolences(a)isoc.org. They're being collected and > displayed at http://www.isco.org/postel/condolences.shtml > > ---------------------------------------------------- > >

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