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RE: Despamming wholesale dialup
by Sean Wade 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

I was actually thinking about this issue a little bit ago. I thought about the access list bit and thought that to be more of a kludge than a solution. What I thought that might be a better solution was more of a transparent mail-proxy setup. I know that may not be the correct term, but the idea and concept is the same. all port 25 requests go to a main relay/deliver server. No matter what. It puts the burden of relays on the provider instead of innocent (albeit ignorant for not locking down their servers) victims. Let me know what you guys think. --Sean wade(a)bigger.net

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Re: Lucent WaveLAN PC Cards?
by Brandon Ross 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

I attended the Atlanta Linux Showcase last weekend and attended a talk about 802.11 cards for Linux. I took the liberty of forwarding Brent's question on to the speaker for that talk and he asked me to forward the following response back to the list. The web site he references is http://www.absoval.com --- In response to Brent Sweeney's question.... There _is_ a driver that has been tested using the Harris PRISM reference design. This is an 802.11 Direct Sequence WLAN card. Two vendors currently using this design are Intalk (http://www.intalk.com) and Bay Networks (be careful with Bay, I think they're still selling older non-802.11 cards too). I haven't had the opportunity to directly test these cards, but the driver _should_ work. On our website, I'll be posting the latest code, instructions, and some information on compatibility between cards and firmware. Hopefully, that'll be up later today or tomorrow. Thanks for the interest! Mark > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:32:02 -0500 (EST) > From: Brent Sweeny <sweeny(a)pine.ucs.indiana.edu> > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Lucent WaveLAN PC Cards? > > and on the subject of 802.11 wireless, does anyone know of 802.11 PCCards > with drivers for Linux? We haven't been able to find any.

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ISP and multicast
by Manolo Sola 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

In the IETF working groups and mailing lists related with multicast and in IETF meetings as well people talk about ISPs' requierements for multicast but nobody states clearly which those requierments are. As it is considered that ISPs' opinion on this matter is essential to the development of multicast proposals, could somebody address the questions I have appended bellow or give some pointers to a place where I can find some relevant information regarding this topic ?. Thanks in advance. What do ISPs think about an internet multicast architecture based on running a multicast protocol inside a domain and a different multicast protocol to forward traffic among domains ? What do ISPs think about an internet multicast architecture based on running the same protocol intra and inter domains ? Do ISPs think that any of the current multicast proposals solve they needs ? Where do current proposals fail ? -- Manolo

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UU Net sales tactics?
by john＠ciag.net 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

Has anyone else received a phone call from a UUnet salesman out of the blue? It appears that he used the Boardwatch magazine, because he quoted me some information out of it about my company. I simply can not believe the egos they have. I will never do business with UUnet, with this or any other company I am with. I use Fiber Network Solutions currently and am very happy with the service. Todd and Kyle are excellent at what they do. The comments that peaked my anger the most were. "Im sure companies as small as yours would b content with someone as small as Fibernet" When I stated to them that their company is one of the most expensive T1 providers, he responded with "Not every company is able to afford the best Internet that can be offered" (implying UUnet is directly that). Any comments or stories that can be shared?

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Ticket Systems Listed
by Rich Sena 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

OK - my search is complete I have quite a few suggestions from alot of good sources - a few ppl said they wanted to be copied - I have Bcc'd you - and I thought I'd sum it here... Came highly recomended: Jitterbug http://samba.anu.edu.au/jitterbug/ ARS Remedy http://www.remedy.com/ Keystone http://www.stonekeep.com/keystone.php3/ ReqNG http://scuttlebutt.explore.com/reqng/ RequestTracking ftp://horked.fsck.com/pub/rt/ Suggested: X-rust ftp://ftp.eng.utah.edu/pub/sys-admin/rust/ Commercial: Clarify http://www.clarify.com/ I chose Jitterbug BTW - thanx Gerry... -- I am nothing if not net-Q! - ras(a)poppa.clubrich.tiac.net

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Re: UU Net sales tactics?
by John Hawkinson 28 Oct '98

28 Oct '98

I can't imagine how discussions about UUNET sales tactics are of operational impact to north american network operators. While perhaps there's an economic impact to be questioned, it sure seems like that's appropriate for inet-access or com-priv. Perhaps there's a technical discussion of how to tactically assault customers and sell them stuff, but I can't see that as being appropriate, even if it is relevent. --jhawk

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Re: Linux Router KIT
by John Fraizer 28 Oct '98

28 Oct '98

At 08:12 PM 10/28/98 +0000, Michael Shields wrote: >In article <19981028100541.00359(a)orlando.power.net>, >dirk(a)power.net wrote: >> Linux doesn't just kill Microsoft's NT and Solaris. It also eats >> Cisco for lunch. > >This isn't true. IOS does a lot more than just get packets from >interface A to interface B. (In terms of managability as well as >functionality) I have to agree. I love my linux routers but, you can't do EVERYTHING on the linux box that you can on the cisco and many times, even the things you can do are more difficult for the uninitiated. ------- John Fraizer | __ _ The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation A 486 is a terrible thing to waste...

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hotmail.com smtp probs...
by Carl Moberg 28 Oct '98

28 Oct '98

This might be slightly off topic, but what is happening with mail.hotmail.com ? Am I the only one with queues increasing by 3-4k mail/h ? -- carl --------------------------------------------------------- Carl Moberg, TeliaNet voice: +46-8-456 7274 <carl(a)telia.net> fax: +46-8-456 7280

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Re: root name servers
by Sean Donelan 28 Oct '98

28 Oct '98

phil(a)whistler.INTur.NET (Phil Howard) writes: >OTOH, some of us don't care about those root servers because we already >know where our own root servers are. All but one of my DNS servers are >grass roots servers. You can take down all the root servers, and if that >didn't also take out the TLD (e.g. .COM, .NET, .ORG, .GOV) servers, then >I won't notice it much (except to wonder why there is a dropoff in my >load on smtp and http). Yeah, I have this argument with the Bellheads all the time. We'll never have to worry because we all run our own SCP's. Tell Canada that. Its just the difference between a static cache and a dynamic cache. Whether you get the information on magtape from Bellcore, or via AXFRs from NSI, the data comes from somewhere. ObGeek: for those that care, the master copy of the north america 1-800/888/877 database is also in Saint Louis. For such a sleepy town, there are a lot of interesting technological knooks and cranies. >BTW, knowing where the main root servers are topologically is probably >more dangerous than knowing where they all are physically. And that is >information most everyone already has. It is important to have both. You don't want all your name servers sitting in the same rack (plugged into the same 6-socket electric cord), nor do you want all your name servers sitting on the same subnet. It doesn't matter how many you have, if they all go away due to the same problem. $ whois intur.net Registrant: Inturnet, Inc. (INTUR-DOM) 811 Alpha Drive Suite 331 Richardson, TX 75081 USA Domain Name: INTUR.NET [...] Domain servers in listed order: NS1.INTUR.NET 206.97.151.9 NS2.INTUR.NET 206.97.151.8 NS3.INTUR.NET 206.97.151.14 NS4.INTUR.NET 206.97.151.15 -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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NANOG 14 REMINDER
by Pam Ciesla 28 Oct '98

28 Oct '98

Friday, 10/30 is the last day to register for NANOG at the $250 fee. It is also the last day to cancel. After 10/30 the registration fee will be $285 and there will be a $35 fee to cancel. The attendee list on the NANOG webpage http://www.nanog.org is up to date thru Tuesday, 10/27.. Any questions please contact me. Thanks Pam Pam Ciesla 734-936-0172 phone 4251 Plymouth Road 734-647-3185 fax Ann Arbor, MI 48105

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