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RE: CISCO Easter Egg
by Sean M. Doran 30 Oct '98

30 Oct '98

| Sean, | | Why would they use this feature for that purpose? To fake a router | crash in order to load new software? Interesting way of "breaking the | rules." | | Chris Well, despite many strangenesses in my former company, operations never actually imposed a maintenance window along the lines of a competitor's "only Thursdays between midnight and four a.m. local time" which straitjacketed the people who were trying to build a network that would cope with the kind of growth it was undergoing at the time. So, one possibility was to wait for things to explode and then change the broken procedures, and the other possibility was load up new code in all routers in advance of the next maintenance window, and then if it became necessary, tactically crash ones that started suffering the worst problems. I don't think I ever actually used the knob, but I know at least two people who did. Sean.

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Re: Linux Router KIT
by Sean M. Doran 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

Phil Howard wrote: | It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. | Not true for Cisco. Huh? It's possible to get four-hour on-site intermediate engineering staff armed with a fully spared out replacement box and a connection to someone with a bigger clue at the TAC. Go talk to your Cisco sales team about services. Sean.

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Priori ?
by jamie＠dilbert.ais.net 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. Tel:312.425.7140, FAX:312.425.7240 -- Your silence will NOT protect you. -- "Did they just ask Don King to come to the lobby?!" - davidr

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RE: Priori ?
by Dave Cooper 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

The Priori Network (parts and pieces) was picked up by ELI. It was not technically an acquisition, just a purchase of contracts and some routers. ELI has taken over the AADS connection, however, due to disconnects placed against the Worldcom ATM uplink to the rest of the old Priori Network (only 1 customer still remains on the old Priori Network), the AADS connection had to be moved to ELI's main facility in Chicago (the Sears Tower) where our OC-3 backbone is terminated. Unfortunately, it came to our attention that it was going to take much longer for Ameritech to move the circuit (alot longer actually). Therefore we had to abruptly drop the connection to the NAP until this move is facilitated. ELI will turn back up the link as soon as Ameritech can get the move completed and will contact peers who wish to reestablish peering with AS 5650. ELI has already converted PAIX and Mae-West from Priori's AS10303 to ELI's AS5650. If you need further information on this, please send mail to peering(a)eli.net and we will respond accordingly. The Priori network has ceased to exist and what *remains* of the network has been folded into the ELI network. Thanks, Dave Cooper ELI Internet Engineering -----Original Message----- From: James Rishaw [SMTP:jamie@dilbert.ais.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:18 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Priori ? OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. Tel:312.425.7140, FAX:312.425.7240 -- Your silence will NOT protect you. -- "Did they just ask Don King to come to the lobby?!" - davidr

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RE: CISCO Easter Egg
by Martin, Christian 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

Sean, Why would they use this feature for that purpose? To fake a router crash in order to load new software? Interesting way of "breaking the rules." Chris > > This was put in to allow a small handful of engineers in > various companies > to load new software into boxes outside the maintenance windows > imposed upon them by misguided but fanatical operations management. > > This particular feature saved the Internet on several occasions. > > Sean. >

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root name servers
by noc＠nso.org 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

anybody knows the physical location of all root name servers, or a pointer ? thx /Bert

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FW: Priori ?
by Dave Cooper 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

-----Original Message----- From: Dave Cooper [SMTP:dcooper@eli.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 1:04 PM To: 'jamie(a)ais.net'; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: Priori ? The Priori Network (parts and pieces) was picked up by ELI. It was not technically an acquisition, just a purchase of contracts and some routers. ELI has taken over the AADS connection, however, due to disconnects placed against the Worldcom ATM uplink to the rest of the old Priori Network (only 1 customer still remains on the old Priori Network), the AADS connection had to be moved to ELI's main facility in Chicago (the Sears Tower) where our OC-3 backbone is terminated. Unfortunately, it came to our attention that it was going to take much longer for Ameritech to move the circuit (alot longer actually). Therefore we had to abruptly drop the connection to the NAP until this move is facilitated. ELI will turn back up the link as soon as Ameritech can get the move completed and will contact peers who wish to reestablish peering with AS 5650. ELI has already converted PAIX and Mae-West from Priori's AS10303 to ELI's AS5650. If you need further information on this, please send mail to peering(a)eli.net and we will respond accordingly. The Priori network has ceased to exist and what *remains* of the network has been folded into the ELI network. Thanks, Dave Cooper ELI Internet Engineering -----Original Message----- From: James Rishaw [SMTP:jamie@dilbert.ais.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:18 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Priori ? OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. Tel:312.425.7140, FAX:312.425.7240 -- Your silence will NOT protect you. -- "Did they just ask Don King to come to the lobby?!" - davidr

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Re: CISCO Easter Egg
by Tony Li 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

> Not only interesting, but dishonest. Sometimes, honesty is not the best way to get a job done. This is why society functions best with a 'little white lie'. > Forcing a company to spend money on false premise is tantamount to theft > or conversion. I believe that there is some confusion here. There was no money that changed hands. There was no requirement to upgrade imposed by Cisco. The conflict that Sean cites is wholly internal to the company running the network. If operations insists that a box not be rebooted even though the network is not operational, that sometimes leaves the network engineer in a difficult position: they can't repair the problem and they can't repair the problem. At the same time, the command was installed so that Cisco could actually test crash procedures. [Yes, you do have to test them. Yes, it helps if there is a deterministic and constant way of testing them. ;-) ] Thus, from Cisco's viewpoint, this was simply exposing an existing mechanism. Tony

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Re: Linux Router KIT
by Dean Anderson 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

>Actually, a cisco may actually double as a toaster, a foot-warmer at the >least <grin>. I thought that the little door on the top of a 7513 was for a pizza warmer. ;-) --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean(a)av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Re: Rootshell pages hacked
by Adam D. McKenna 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

I was wondering when this was going to reach NANOG. Right now all there is is a lot of speculation. No "real" info. I would encourage everyone not to jump to conclusions (as the bugtraq poster did). --Adam -----Original Message----- From: neil <neil(a)junior.uwc.ac.za> To: Russ Haynal <russ(a)navigators.com> Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:34 PM Subject: Rootshell pages hacked Hi there. Apparently rootshell.com pages had been hacked this morning by crackers using ssh-1.2.26.? Any got more news about this event, regards "May you live in interesting times" by chinese ppl

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