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Internic Rwhois Server Offline
by Leo Bicknell 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

The Internic rwhois server (rwhois.internic.net, port 4321) is offline. It had been the case for a long time that one of the IP's (.7 of the .6 and .7 in the round robin) had not answered. Now for most of the day neither have. Gotta love being able to look stuff up. I've mailed them, not that anyone will ever read it. :-( -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell(a)ufp.org Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request(a)tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org

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Internic, Missing Records, etc.
by Ehud Gavron 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

You've heard me whine about Internic losing the 128.65 record. Unfortunately, I'm advised I can't sue them for losing a record if there's no loss... and we still have the network, just not reverse DNS. What I'd like to get are some quotes of 1) What would you pay for a legacy Class B network, free and clear from all ARIN fees, reverse DNS included for free... for life, prejustified. 2) What would you pay for what we now have... a Class B network with no reverse DNS, with no entry in the ARIN database, which who knows, they may one day invent one with themselves or others as the owners. 3) New non-legacy /16 of address space, complete with the fee accouterments of ARIN. Please direct responses at me or CC the list. I'll summarize if there's interest. Ehud p.s. If you have experience valuing these, and are willing to be a professional expert, let me know.

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None
by Vinny India 30 Mar '99

30 Mar '99

I'm looking for information on who is currently connected to MAE-East via ATM, or has plans to connect in the near future. Is there a Web Page that will list current participants. Thanks

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BGP advertisements of peering points
by Andy McConnell 30 Mar '99

30 Mar '99

Forgive a newbie question from a new PAIX peer... I've noticed some ISPs (BBN (*ahem* GTE), UUNET and Verio specifically) are advertising the PAIX peering network (198.32.176.0) as originating from their AS. Is this a common practice for all ISPs, or just enough to make the IX reachable? -Andy -- Andy McConnell 真向練安堵龍 NTT America IP Headquarters First snow, then silence. This thousand dollar screen dies so beautifully. -- Haiku by Simon Firth

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Its official: www.whitehouse.gov was not down
by Sean Donelan 30 Mar '99

30 Mar '99

Last one on this, I promise. >BTW, it has been nearly twelve hours, and I still haven't heard back >from any providers involved if there was a simple cause why the sites >were down. That's not unusual either :-) I finally heard back from the providers in question. The answer..... They knew of no reason why the sites were down, but the sites were working again when the providers got around to checking on Monday. The White House press spokesperson Joe Lockhart reported in his daily briefing the www.whitehouse.gov web site was not down over the weekend, just slow due to all the traffic. Nevertheless, the US Secret Service has been requested to investigate (that should be interesting...) Those were the only official reports I found. Unofficial reports included a router failure, a power failure, a denial of service. Other more extreme rumors were also attracted to the information vacuum. Significantly, no backhoes were implicated :-) -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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whois database not being updated...
by John Fraizer 29 Mar '99

29 Mar '99

Has anyone noticed that the whois database is not showing updates to objects? What I mean is, although it shows... Database last updated on 27-Mar-99 16:27:44 EST. ...objects are not showing up in the database. Example: We received confirmation on one of our clients domains: From: Domain Registration Role Account <domreg(a)internic.net> Message-Id: <199903262007.PAA29021(a)mts2.internic.net> Subject: Re: [NIC-990326.839e] 1GIG.NET Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:07:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: domreg(a)internic.net To: John.Fraizer(a)EZ-Hosting.Com Cc: noc(a)ENTERZONE.NET X-Mailer: fastmail [version 2.4 PL24alpha4] X-UIDL: 227373416c861caaa4cc3d0efb76e90a Registration for the domain name shown below has been completed. Yet, a whois shows NOTHING: [root@Overkill /root]# whois 1gig.net [rs.internic.net] No match for "1GIG.NET". The InterNIC Registration Services database contains ONLY non-military and non-US Government Domains and contacts. Other associated whois servers: American Registry for Internet Numbers - whois.arin.net European IP Address Allocations - whois.ripe.net Asia Pacific IP Address Allocations - whois.apnic.net US Military - whois.nic.mil US Government - whois.nic.gov But, it's in the zone file: [root@Overkill /root]# nslookup Default Server: NS1.ENTERZONE.NET Address: 209.41.244.5 > server ns.netsol.com Default Server: ns.netsol.com Address: 198.41.0.196 > 1gig.net Server: ns.netsol.com Address: 198.41.0.196 Non-authoritative answer: 1gig.net nameserver = NS1.ENTERZONE.NET 1gig.net nameserver = NS2.ENTERZONE.NET Authoritative answers can be found from: 1gig.net nameserver = NS1.ENTERZONE.NET 1gig.net nameserver = NS2.ENTERZONE.NET NS1.ENTERZONE.NET internet address = 209.41.244.5 NS2.ENTERZONE.NET internet address = 209.41.244.6 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ML.ORG is gone. Check out http://www.EZ-IP.Net - It's *FREE* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your *FREE* Parked Domain account at http://www.EZ-Hosting.Com ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Fraizer | __ _ | The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation PGP Key fingerprint = 7DB6 1CA2 DAA6 43DA 3AAF 44CD 258C 3D7E B425 81A8

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Re: A pair of interesting web site outages
by Sean Donelan 29 Mar '99

29 Mar '99

Uncle..... I said it was just slightly interesting. I don't intend to track the status of every web site on the Internet. There are several commercial companies which do that. Folks have suddenly discovered a number of government sites are out of service this weekend, and are coming up with all sorts of crazy theories. First of all, I don't know if many of the URL's folks sent me ever worked; so I don't know if the web site is really down or just another dead web link. In addition, people should remember most government webmasters don't work after 4:30pm on Friday. Its not all that unusual for a government web site to crash over the weekend and be down until Monday morning. Because I don't track web sites myself, I'll leave it up to one of the commercial web measurement firms to report if an unusual number of (private, commercial, government) web sites were down over the weekend. Operational points: I'm assuming its merely an interesting confluence of events. The Melissa virus notice is getting big media play, and some folks are turning off their mail (and web) servers just in case. Several reports involve web servers located at one provider's facility. There may be a single cause for those. And finally, sensitization of people because of my original message. BTW, it has been nearly twelve hours, and I still haven't heard back from any providers involved if there was a simple cause why the sites were down. That's not unusual either :-) -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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A pair of interesting web site outages
by Sean Donelan 29 Mar '99

29 Mar '99

Normally I wouldn't consider either of these very interesting, but both happening at the same time has a slight operational interest. The web site www.atis.org is one of the locations the telephone industry stores its emergency contact information so carriers can contact each other. It is also the web home for the reports issued by the network reliability analysis process. The web site is currently down (4:30 EST) The web site www.whitehouse.gov is a well-known government site, containing a variaty of current event information. This web site is also currently down (4:30 EST). Both sites pass through PSI's Herndon, Virginia offices. I sent a few queries to people before sending this message, but didn't receive an immediate response. I assume its just coincidence these sites failed at the same time. But it was interesting how seemingly unrelated things can happen at the same time. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: Network Solutions is now in the wringer
by Sean Donelan 28 Mar '99

28 Mar '99

pceasy(a)norfolk.INfi.NET (Dean Robb) writes: >While not a network operator, I think it would be most prudent to consider >and discuss (among those who ARE netops) what do to if, say, the root >server were suddenly comletely unaccessible for several days/permanently >for *whatever* reason. Duh, isn't that why there is more than one root server in the world? Remember various root servers have/are/will be unavailable for varying periods of time. Except for people who track these things closely, very few of these incidents have any noticeble impact on the Internet. The loss of any one (or even two, three, or four) root servers is not much of a crisis. However I feel some people confuse the data in the root servers, with the databases used to generate those zone files. There is a subtle, but important difference. And why simply copying the zone files is not sufficient. >Does anyone know if NSI even has an off-site mirror running? Or are all >the eggs in one basket? Without actually confirming they exist myself, NSI has reported in various forums including NANOG they have off-site backups. The GTLD's generally have much better backup, and diversity than most country TLD's, many US subdomains and ISP delegations. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: Network Solutions is now in the wringer
by Sean Donelan 28 Mar '99

28 Mar '99

pceasy(a)norfolk.INfi.NET (Dean Robb) writes: >So who has copies of the databases? If NSI's master (the a-root?) is >unavailable, new domains obviously wouldn't propagate, but how long can the >other root servers go without getting an update? Does the system as >currently configured *require* some server somewhere to be the master and >is there one that can take over if NSI's are toast? It depends. How's that for an ambigous answer. Technically the other root servers can go for a long time (e.g. at least until the sun engulfs the earth) without getting an update. However, there are other concerns beyond the scop of this list (social, political) which may require the recovery take place sooner. Fact of the matter, this is a lot like asking who has copies of the 1-800 database in case something happens to St. Louis, MO or who has copies of the ATM card database if something happens to Secaucus, NJ. The only answer you will get is there are "disaster recovery plans," but the plans are confidential, proprietary, and you generally can't see them. How good are the plans, or do they really exist? I'm afraid we don't find out until something like Galaxy IV spins out of control and the world discovers the backup plan involves a person going out to each pager site in the country and manually re-pointing the dish at a different satellite over the course of a week. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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