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Area 51 outage report withdrawn
by Sean Donelan 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

A case for Scully, Mulder and The Lone Gunmen? I received an update about an outage report I mentioned last month. Sprint requested the FCC withdraw the outage report referring to a DACS failure serving "Area 51" on December 22, 1999.

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Erik-Jan Bos 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

jld, > What's even more disturbing is the fact that the US Congress thinks it can > control the Internet... > I thought the Internet was worldwide (read: not only in the USA) thing. You are correct :-). But perhaps US Congress does not understand yet. __ Erik-Jan Bos The Netherlands, Europe

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by jeanlou.dupont＠na.marconicomms.com 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

... and the "Baseball World Series" only involves teams from the USA... Well, probably I don't understand enough about life in general to make a sane judgement call. jld. ;-) Erik-Jan Bos <erik-jan.bos(a)surfnet.nl> on 01/25/2000 03:10:13 PM To: Jeanlou Dupont/RMQ/RELTECCORP@MCMAIN cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] jld, > What's even more disturbing is the fact that the US Congress thinks it can > control the Internet... > I thought the Internet was worldwide (read: not only in the USA) thing. You are correct :-). But perhaps US Congress does not understand yet. __ Erik-Jan Bos The Netherlands, Europe

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Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Brad S. Dreisbach 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

> > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your > Congressperson. > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. > http://www.house.gov/writerep > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest > in this one. > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service > for > a service they do not even provide. > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If > the > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying > an > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United > States. > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write > to > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a > bill we don't > want. > > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. >

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Brad S. Dreisbach 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Apparently I was the only un-informed list reader. My appologies to everyone. -b !Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu !Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:54:28 -0500 (EST) !From: Charles Sprickman <spork(a)inch.com> !To: "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> !Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu !Subject: Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] !MIME-Version: 1.0 !X-Loop: nanog ! ! !Just a general note, never mail anything to anyone else that says: ! !"PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL" (or much of anything !else written ALL-CAPS. ! !See: ! !http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html#emailtax ! !http://www.kylgrafx.com/bill602.htm ! !Charles ! !On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Brad S. Dreisbach wrote: ! !> > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to !> > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet !> > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we !> > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. !> > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your !> > Congressperson. !> > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to !> > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. !> > http://www.house.gov/writerep !> > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass !> > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest !> > in this one. !> > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an !> > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to !> > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the !> > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be !> > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill !> > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every !> > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The !> > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer !> > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from !> > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due !> > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue !> > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent !> > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen !> > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the !> > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 !> > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. !> > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service !> > for !> > a service they do not even provide. !> > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If !> > the !> > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a !> > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying !> > an !> > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It !> > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York !> > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker !> > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United !> > States. !> > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty !> > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the !> > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major !> > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the !> > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept !> > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). !> > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to !> > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write !> > to !> > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few !> > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a !> > bill we don't !> > want. !> > !> > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL !> > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT !> > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. ! !

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by jeanlou.dupont＠na.marconicomms.com 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

What's even more disturbing is the fact that the US Congress thinks it can control the Internet... I thought the Internet was worldwide (read: not only in the USA) thing. jld. "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> on 01/25/2000 01:27:42 PM Please respond to "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu cc: (bcc: Jeanlou Dupont/RMQ/RELTECCORP) Subject: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] > > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your > Congressperson. > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. > http://www.house.gov/writerep > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest > in this one. > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service > for > a service they do not even provide. > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If > the > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying > an > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United > States. > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write > to > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a > bill we don't > want. > > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. >

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Re: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record !
by Kai Schlichting 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

At Tuesday 11:32 AM 1/25/00 , jlewis(a)lewis.org wrote: >It's not just www. trading.etrade.com (where you end up after logging in) >normally does have it's own set of A records, but has also vanished from >ns1 and ns2.etrade.com. Also, it looks like most of the slaves have >updated and now also have incomplete etrade.com zones. oops. I guess that was it for https://trading.etrade.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+Loginpage , a link to the account login page that Ryan Tucker emailed me (Thanks!). That leaves my Squid caches with the cached DNS records up for promotion to the customers :) bye,Kai

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Re: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record !
by jlewis＠lewis.org 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Kai Schlichting wrote: > Expect some major customer complaints about this one: www.etrade.com has > no A record, and all other addresses are redirected to that very name. > > I just sent this to Etrade: > > >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:09:56 -0500 > >To: mstallcop(a)ETRADE.COM, postmaster(a)etrade.com, sales(a)etrade.com, info(a)etrade.com, noc(a)etrade.com > >Subject: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record ! > > > >I am seeing customer complaints this morning that they can't reach Etrade. > >Check: your ns1 and ns2 nameservers DO NOT have an address record (A) for > >www.etrade.com !!!!!!!! It's not just www. trading.etrade.com (where you end up after logging in) normally does have it's own set of A records, but has also vanished from ns1 and ns2.etrade.com. Also, it looks like most of the slaves have updated and now also have incomplete etrade.com zones. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis(a)lewis.org*| Spammers will be winnuked or System Administrator | nestea'd...whatever it takes Atlantic Net | to get the job done. _________http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key__________

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www.etrade.com has no DNS A record !
by Kai Schlichting 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Expect some major customer complaints about this one: www.etrade.com has no A record, and all other addresses are redirected to that very name. I just sent this to Etrade: >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:09:56 -0500 >To: mstallcop(a)ETRADE.COM, postmaster(a)etrade.com, sales(a)etrade.com, info(a)etrade.com, noc(a)etrade.com >Subject: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record ! > >I am seeing customer complaints this morning that they can't reach Etrade. >Check: your ns1 and ns2 nameservers DO NOT have an address record (A) for >www.etrade.com !!!!!!!! > >Given that www.e-trade.com redirects to www.etrade.com, everyone is caught >in this trap ! > >Your secondaries at barrnet.net and psi.net are still holding up: > >jupiter:~# dig @ns1.etrade.com www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns1.etrade.com www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched2.etrade.com. >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched1.etrade.com. > >;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: >gsched2.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.32.18 >gsched1.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.33.18 > >;; Total query time: 87 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns1.etrade.com 198.93.33.11 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:26 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 118 > >jupiter:~# dig @ns2.etrade.com www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns2.etrade.com www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched2.etrade.com. >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched1.etrade.com. > >;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: >gsched2.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.32.18 >gsched1.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.33.18 > >;; Total query time: 85 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns2.etrade.com 198.93.32.11 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:30 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 118 > >jupiter:~# dig @ns2.psi.net www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns2.psi.net www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; ANSWERS: >www.etrade.com. 3 A 167.216.172.33 > >;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched2.etrade.com. >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched1.etrade.com. > >;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: >gsched2.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.32.18 >gsched1.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.33.18 > >;; Total query time: 84 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns2.psi.net 38.8.50.2 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:35 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 134 > >jupiter:~# dig @ns1.barrnet.net www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns1.barrnet.net www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 0, Addit: 0 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; ANSWERS: >www.etrade.com. 15 A 167.216.172.33 > >;; Total query time: 3051 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns1.barrnet.net 131.119.245.5 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:43 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 48

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Broadband
by Alba, Victor 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Anyone knows where can I find information on Broadband Networks and who are the major players as of today? Thanks, -Victor

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