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Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Brad S. Dreisbach 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

> > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your > Congressperson. > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. > http://www.house.gov/writerep > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest > in this one. > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service > for > a service they do not even provide. > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If > the > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying > an > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United > States. > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write > to > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a > bill we don't > want. > > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. >

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Brad S. Dreisbach 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Apparently I was the only un-informed list reader. My appologies to everyone. -b !Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu !Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:54:28 -0500 (EST) !From: Charles Sprickman <spork(a)inch.com> !To: "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> !Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu !Subject: Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] !MIME-Version: 1.0 !X-Loop: nanog ! ! !Just a general note, never mail anything to anyone else that says: ! !"PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL" (or much of anything !else written ALL-CAPS. ! !See: ! !http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html#emailtax ! !http://www.kylgrafx.com/bill602.htm ! !Charles ! !On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Brad S. Dreisbach wrote: ! !> > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to !> > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet !> > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we !> > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. !> > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your !> > Congressperson. !> > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to !> > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. !> > http://www.house.gov/writerep !> > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass !> > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest !> > in this one. !> > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an !> > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to !> > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the !> > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be !> > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill !> > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every !> > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The !> > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer !> > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from !> > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due !> > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue !> > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent !> > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen !> > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the !> > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 !> > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. !> > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service !> > for !> > a service they do not even provide. !> > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If !> > the !> > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a !> > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying !> > an !> > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It !> > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York !> > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker !> > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United !> > States. !> > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty !> > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the !> > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major !> > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the !> > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept !> > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). !> > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to !> > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write !> > to !> > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few !> > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a !> > bill we don't !> > want. !> > !> > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL !> > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT !> > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. ! !

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by jeanlou.dupont＠na.marconicomms.com 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

What's even more disturbing is the fact that the US Congress thinks it can control the Internet... I thought the Internet was worldwide (read: not only in the USA) thing. jld. "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> on 01/25/2000 01:27:42 PM Please respond to "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu cc: (bcc: Jeanlou Dupont/RMQ/RELTECCORP) Subject: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] > > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your > Congressperson. > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. > http://www.house.gov/writerep > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest > in this one. > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service > for > a service they do not even provide. > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If > the > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying > an > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United > States. > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write > to > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a > bill we don't > want. > > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. >

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Re: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record !
by Kai Schlichting 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

At Tuesday 11:32 AM 1/25/00 , jlewis(a)lewis.org wrote: >It's not just www. trading.etrade.com (where you end up after logging in) >normally does have it's own set of A records, but has also vanished from >ns1 and ns2.etrade.com. Also, it looks like most of the slaves have >updated and now also have incomplete etrade.com zones. oops. I guess that was it for https://trading.etrade.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+Loginpage , a link to the account login page that Ryan Tucker emailed me (Thanks!). That leaves my Squid caches with the cached DNS records up for promotion to the customers :) bye,Kai

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Re: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record !
by jlewis＠lewis.org 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Kai Schlichting wrote: > Expect some major customer complaints about this one: www.etrade.com has > no A record, and all other addresses are redirected to that very name. > > I just sent this to Etrade: > > >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:09:56 -0500 > >To: mstallcop(a)ETRADE.COM, postmaster(a)etrade.com, sales(a)etrade.com, info(a)etrade.com, noc(a)etrade.com > >Subject: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record ! > > > >I am seeing customer complaints this morning that they can't reach Etrade. > >Check: your ns1 and ns2 nameservers DO NOT have an address record (A) for > >www.etrade.com !!!!!!!! It's not just www. trading.etrade.com (where you end up after logging in) normally does have it's own set of A records, but has also vanished from ns1 and ns2.etrade.com. Also, it looks like most of the slaves have updated and now also have incomplete etrade.com zones. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis(a)lewis.org*| Spammers will be winnuked or System Administrator | nestea'd...whatever it takes Atlantic Net | to get the job done. _________http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key__________

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www.etrade.com has no DNS A record !
by Kai Schlichting 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Expect some major customer complaints about this one: www.etrade.com has no A record, and all other addresses are redirected to that very name. I just sent this to Etrade: >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:09:56 -0500 >To: mstallcop(a)ETRADE.COM, postmaster(a)etrade.com, sales(a)etrade.com, info(a)etrade.com, noc(a)etrade.com >Subject: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record ! > >I am seeing customer complaints this morning that they can't reach Etrade. >Check: your ns1 and ns2 nameservers DO NOT have an address record (A) for >www.etrade.com !!!!!!!! > >Given that www.e-trade.com redirects to www.etrade.com, everyone is caught >in this trap ! > >Your secondaries at barrnet.net and psi.net are still holding up: > >jupiter:~# dig @ns1.etrade.com www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns1.etrade.com www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched2.etrade.com. >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched1.etrade.com. > >;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: >gsched2.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.32.18 >gsched1.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.33.18 > >;; Total query time: 87 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns1.etrade.com 198.93.33.11 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:26 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 118 > >jupiter:~# dig @ns2.etrade.com www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns2.etrade.com www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched2.etrade.com. >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched1.etrade.com. > >;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: >gsched2.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.32.18 >gsched1.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.33.18 > >;; Total query time: 85 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns2.etrade.com 198.93.32.11 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:30 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 118 > >jupiter:~# dig @ns2.psi.net www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns2.psi.net www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; ANSWERS: >www.etrade.com. 3 A 167.216.172.33 > >;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched2.etrade.com. >www.etrade.com. 14000 NS gsched1.etrade.com. > >;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: >gsched2.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.32.18 >gsched1.etrade.com. 14000 A 198.93.33.18 > >;; Total query time: 84 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns2.psi.net 38.8.50.2 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:35 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 134 > >jupiter:~# dig @ns1.barrnet.net www.etrade.com a > >; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @ns1.barrnet.net www.etrade.com a >; (1 server found) >;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch >;; got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 >;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 0, Addit: 0 >;; QUESTIONS: >;; www.etrade.com, type = A, class = IN > >;; ANSWERS: >www.etrade.com. 15 A 167.216.172.33 > >;; Total query time: 3051 msec >;; FROM: jupiter.speedus.net to SERVER: ns1.barrnet.net 131.119.245.5 >;; WHEN: Tue Jan 25 11:03:43 2000 >;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 48

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Broadband
by Alba, Victor 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Anyone knows where can I find information on Broadband Networks and who are the major players as of today? Thanks, -Victor

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Re: Napster & other bandwidth hogs
by ken harris. 24 Jan '00

24 Jan '00

Ryan Bek [12:57 PM 1/24/00 -0500] wrote: :I (and I presume many others) have had concerns brought to us about the :bandwidth hogging apps & services, like Napster Music Community. As many have :discovered, applications such as these can consume a good deal of a broadband :connection, as users can serve up files from their own machines, subverting :normal firewall configs that can prevent undesired behind-the-firewall :serving. there was a c|net report on just this the other day. it actually is directly related to universities. school's crack down on net music software napster < http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-1527930.html?tag=st.ne.1002. > :-Ryan- -ken harris !k < ken at arpa dot com >

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Napster & other bandwidth hogs
by Ryan Bek 24 Jan '00

24 Jan '00

Hello all - I (and I presume many others) have had concerns brought to us about the bandwidth hogging apps & services, like Napster Music Community. As many have discovered, applications such as these can consume a good deal of a broadband connection, as users can serve up files from their own machines, subverting normal firewall configs that can prevent undesired behind-the-firewall serving. Since these apps are becoming more and more prevalent, as college students are huge collectors of digital music, and as bandwidth is always a concern, I am wondering what others in either the educational or business community are doing in light of this. Even having logistical information such as, "close ports x, x, and x" would be of assistance. I'd just like to have some ammunition in case others higher on the food chain ask for this to happen. While there *is* a big concern about copyright (lawsuits and such are in the works against Napster), but being part of an educational community, restricting services based on content is a *huge* can of worms that is dealt with at higher levels than where I function. I mostly need to know the technical end of stuff - Napster's site doesn't list any technical stuff like what ports are used. Thanks a bunch! -Ryan- Ryan Bek Help Desk Manager Office of Information Technology, Greensboro College Phone - (336) 272-7102 x354 FAX - (336) 271-6634

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Re: Atlanta <--> Jax Fiber Outage?
by Sean Donelan 24 Jan '00

24 Jan '00

On Mon, 24 January 2000, Robert Gash wrote: > I'm noticing severe reachability problems on the Jacksonville, FL <--> > Atlanta, GA links. The issue appears to be a fiber cut (or a partial > fiber cut) between my upstream and Sprint Atlanta. Can anyone confirm > this outage? There have been ongoing problems throughout the southeast due to the severe ice storm over the weekend. Power and telephone outages have been reported, and some Internet providers were effected. However, yours is the report I've seen of a problem between Sprint Atlanta and Jacksonville.

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