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Senator Hollings is at it again
by Jeff Workman 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

I swear, stuff like this makes me wish that it was legal to shoot politicians: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cbdtpa/hollings.s2048.032102.html Jeff -- Jeff Workman | jworkman(a)pimpworks.org | http://www.pimpworks.org

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OT: Re: City apologizes for ORBZ shutdown....
by Joe Blanchard 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Geez, And to think, all of those times I made a mistake I could have taken the person responsible for exposing it to court... Missed my chance. Guess an ACL for 216.120.158.120, 204.246.1.31 (and any other variants) is in order. Would hate for someone to accidentally bring down one of these systems due to a flaw on their end, and then get dragged in to a legal suit. LOL. Just my 2¢s Cheers -Joe Blanchard

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City apologizes for ORBZ shutdown....
by Mike Donahue 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

*sigh* http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article/0,,8_996341,00.html Mike

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looking to reduce hops from toronto to singtel
by Jim Mercer 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

anyone got any ideas on who might be able to reduce my hopcount from toronto to singtel? currently we are seeing uunet->alternet->bbnplanet->singtel. i'd like to reduce the points of failure from here to there. -- [ Jim Mercer jim(a)reptiles.org +1 416 410-5633 ] [ I want to live forever, or die trying. ]

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Opentransit AS5511 route-server
by German Martinez 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

route-server for AS5511 is now up, running and open for the Internet commmunity. It is reachable by simple telnet. telnet route-server.opentransit.net This route-server provides a global view of Opentransit AS5511 (unicast+multicast). Thanks a lot to David Meyer how provide us with some hints from his route-server in oregon. Comments/Suggestions are welcome German

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Re: RE: long distance gigabit ethernet
by Frank Coluccio 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

> > Forget it [Gbe] with today's technology. All long haul > systems use SONET framing. But with the 10Gbe standard > WAN PHY you can directly connect into a SONET > transponder and your ethernet will be carried transparently. Agreed, for the most part, especially when one is solely dependent on the incumbent carriers. I should point out, however, that some commercial enterprises are leasing their own lambdas from dark fiber providers who are running native GbE on their regional routes, both linear and ring-based, and those nets are becoming rather expansive. One such network that I am intimately familiar with now encompasses six northeastern states, and counting, adding segment after segment. Jitter on the larger ring circumferences? Yes, you betcha. Compensated for by either 3R regen or Layer 2 switching techniques or some other opaque- inducing means. When such routes are actually available and justifiable, the business problem then centers on risk assessment. I.e., will those fiber carriers continue to be viable for the foreseeable future? And so it goes... FAC > > ----------------------------- > Bill St. Arnaud > Senior Director Network Projects > CANARIE Inc > www.canarie.ca/~bstarn > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of > > Greg Pendergrass > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:36 AM > > To: 'Nanog@Merit. Edu' > > Subject: long distance gigabit ethernet > > > > > > > > I'm looking at long-haul gigabit ethernet as a possible solution versus > > traditional SONET and I'm a little bit wary as promises made on web pages > > and white papers aren't *always* completely accurate. I'd > > appreciate it if > > you all would share your experiences with it. By long-haul I mean in the > > hundreds or thousands of miles. I need to know: > > > > a. Does it work properly? > > > > b. Who offers it in the continental US? > > > > Please contact me off-list. Any information is greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Greg Pendergrass > > > > > >

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(no subject)
by Greg Pendergrass 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Sorry, you can't tell who's comment is whose on the previous mail. That should be: -----Original Message----- From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:ras@e-gerbil.net] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:47 AM To: Greg Pendergrass Cc: 'Nanog@Merit. Edu' Subject: Re: long distance gigabit ethernet On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 10:36:22AM -0500, Greg Pendergrass wrote: > > I'm looking at long-haul gigabit ethernet as a possible solution versus > traditional SONET and I'm a little bit wary as promises made on web pages > and white papers aren't *always* completely accurate. I'd appreciate it if > you all would share your experiences with it. By long-haul I mean in the > hundreds or thousands of miles. I need to know: > > a. Does it work properly? > > b. Who offers it in the continental US? -I'm going to take a stab and assume that you're actually more interested -in finding a longhaul line with GigE on the ends, and not so much how many -miles you can get with whatever optics... Absolutely right, I don't care what's in between as long as I have GigE at the end. Other options include using wave (too expensive), or ethernet over MPLS (worth considering although latency may be too high for longer that 1000 miles). GP

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Unwanted dial-outs
by Dave Garber 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

I have a question that I hope someone here can help me with. I have a client who is running a Windows 2k Advanced Server with 7 Windows 2k pro clients. They're setup with Sygate Office Network on the server for internet dial-out sharing. The problem we're having is unwanted calls made to the ISP (which is on a LD line... it's temporary until they move into their permanent office at which time they will be going with a broadband solution) randomly during the day by ALL of the 7 clients! The trigger event is to this domain - blackhole-1.iana.org. None of the clients are running any type of internet application when this occurs and I haven't been able to figure out what blackhole-1.iana.org is? What is triggering this event and why? Has anyone heard of this before? Any input is greatly appreciated! Dave Garber CompuHelp Unlimited/The Computer Cafe 724.776.5860

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Question re. SSH
by Steve Sobol 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Apologies in advance for any operational content this may contain. I have a customer who wants to get a static ip with his dialup. He uses SSH extensively and plans to do X11 forwarding, and if he gets disconnected and redials and gets another IP the previous sessions would be inaccessible. I can do static IP but I want to try to save the guy a couple bucks. :) Would a static IP be required to make sure he doesn't lose those X11 sessions after a disconnect? Asking here because I figure my chances of getting an accurate answer are better here than on any of the other mailing lists I read. TIA. SJS -- Steve Sobol, Proud Native of the Great Frozen City of Cleveland, Ohio http://www.Cleveland.OH.US/ http://www.TravelCleveland.com/ http://www.LakeCountyOhio.org/ (Where the Snow is Cold but our Hearts Aren't!) CTO, JustThe.net LLC, Mentor On The Lake, Lake County, OH http://JustThe.net/

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Re: Network Outage
by blitz 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Well, I used to be a contractor for MCI/WCOM, so I know all the numbers to call and the names of people to ask for. They as a rule are very mysterious about anything outage related. The first rule to get better service, is always say OK to intrusive testing. I've had jacks go bad, and the bridge point isn't a wholesome indicator and the fault can be 2 inches away. Besides, I was hard down, all zeros, so it didn't matter. After some arm twisting at Bell Canada, they confirmed it wasn't on their side of the ditch, so I started calling people I know here. The usual characters at the WCOM NOC were calling and leaving useless messages on my answering machine, but I called Sardinia, and got them to check outbound, towards Canada, and they said the T3 looked wholesome, but he couldn't access it at T1 level. I did however, find my Ticket appended to some others, so I knew it had to be at a bigger pipe than my T1. I know where they can check at T1 level, at 3DE, (the old MFS site, where I used to work) so I called, and a girl I worked with told me they had a DS3 cross-connect cable failure earlier, and it was repaired. I called over to the transport desk, and they confirmed the circuit was outbound twords Canada. I put two and two together and when I called the NOC back (they hadn't called my pager as instructed when the cut was cleared) they said the problem had been cleared and the circuit restored. Turns out, the NYC stuff was independent of the Canada problem, (which was my top priority) and the NYC stuff cleared on its own about 15 mins after I talked to Sardinia. Never got a positive cause on that one, but its gone, so its ok by me. Theyre stretched so thin on manpower now, and rumors are flying theres to be another round of layoffs next week, groan. Anyway, all the circuits are back and wholesome, so Im happy...back up at 4:10pm At 19:59 3/21/02 -0500, you wrote: >What did you end up getting from them. I lost some ccts out of 60 Hudson >and they would not cough up to a problem, only hour later during a co-op >test did the problem "clear on its own". Any details you can provide would >be great. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "blitz" <blitz(a)macronet.net> >To: <nanog(a)merit.edu> >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:00 PM >Subject: Network Outage > > > > > > Good day, > > There has been a MCI/Worldcom outage near the Sardinia, NY switching >site. > > I have been in contact with them since around 12:00 EST and they are > > presently trying to localize the problem. > > I've lost a couple international circuits to Canada, and some to NYC. I > > don't know if anyone else is experiencing similar problems. > > > > This is just a heads up for the list (and my first post..hello all) > > > > Marc Blitz > >

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