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Transatlantic response times.
by Pistone, Mike 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I wasn't really sure where to post this, but I figured NANOG would have some insight or at least experience here. I was curious if anybody would share what they consider to be average or acceptable transatlantic ping response times over a T1. I know there are tons of variables here, but I am looking for ballpark figures. Assume that utilization on the circuit is extremely low, and you are measuring point to point across the line. You can also assume no other bottlenecks effecting the response times (router performance, or what not). Should you see a ~150ms trip? 250ms? 450ms??? Also, if possible, include the to and from info. Obviously NYC to London is a bit different than Dallas to Prague or something. Is there any equation to estimate response times? For example, if your circuit from A to Z has a 500ms avg response, than that equates to a circuit distance of aprox. 5000 miles or something? Thanks in advance, Mike

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Re: Transatlantic response times.
by PETER JANSEN 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Mike: Our web site at http://sla.cw.net/ provides you with real time RTT measurements on our network. That should give you a good picture of typical large network response times. Regards Peter Jansen Global Peering Cable & Wireless Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Pistone, Mike" <Mike.Pistone(a)msfc.nasa.gov> To: "'nanog(a)merit.edu'" <nanog(a)merit.edu> Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Transatlantic response times. I wasn't really sure where to post this, but I figured NANOG would have some insight or at least experience here. I was curious if anybody would share what they consider to be average or acceptable transatlantic ping response times over a T1. I know there are tons of variables here, but I am looking for ballpark figures. Assume that utilization on the circuit is extremely low, and you are measuring point to point across the line. You can also assume no other bottlenecks effecting the response times (router performance, or what not). Should you see a ~150ms trip? 250ms? 450ms??? Also, if possible, include the to and from info. Obviously NYC to London is a bit different than Dallas to Prague or something. Is there any equation to estimate response times? For example, if your circuit from A to Z has a 500ms avg response, than that equates to a circuit distance of aprox. 5000 miles or something? Thanks in advance, Mike

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FWD: FC: Verisign reportedly sending deceptive domain registration bills (fwd)
by brett watson 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

in case anyone has experienced this and wants to complain... ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:57 AM -0500 From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: politech(a)politechbot.com Subject: FC: Verisign reportedly sending deceptive domain registration bills > > --- > > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:26:15 -0500 > To: declan(a)well.com > From: Peter Wayner <pcw(a)flyzone.com> > Subject: Fwd: A WARNING TO OUR CUSTOMERS > > [Another scandal mixing spam, the DNS tables and ICANN.--Peter] > > >> Date: 23 Mar 2002 00:07:10 -0000 >> To: pcw(a)flyzone.com >> From: service(a)godaddy.com >> Subject: A WARNING TO OUR CUSTOMERS >> >> Please be aware that Verisign, Inc. (formerly Network Solutions) is >> sending via the US Mail, what we believe to be deceptive and predatory >> domain expiration notices. >> The purpose behind these notices is to get the unsuspecting customer to >> transfer to and renew their domain name(s) with Verisign Inc. at >> significantly higher prices. >> >> The domain expiration notices are designed so that it is not obvious >> that the notices are from Verisign, Inc. as opposed to Go Daddy >> Software. To see a copy of one of these deceptive expiration notices, >> please go to the following URL: >> http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/private_vsrn.asp?display=letter. >> >> Those customers who fall prey to the Verisign, Inc. scheme will have >> their domain name(s) renewed at a price more than 3 times higher than >> would be the case if they renewed with Go Daddy Software. >> >> For a .com, .net or .org domain name renewal, the victimized customer >> would pay $29.00 to Verisign, Inc. instead of the $8.95 charged by Go >> Daddy Software. >> Those customers who fall prey to this scheme, will not receive any >> better service or value. They will however be tricked out of $20.05 >> per domain name. >> >> Renewal notices from Go Daddy Software are sent via email, and always >> mention the Go Daddy name. You can be sure that any communications you >> receive concerning your domain name that do not explicitly and obviously >> display the Go Daddy name are not from Go Daddy Software. >> >> If you believe, as we do, that this practice of Verisign Inc. is >> misleading, predatory and improper, we invite you to make your feelings >> known by writing to ICANN (who is the governing body for all Registrarís >> and Registries) and to Verisign Registry. Email links for both are >> provided below. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Bob Parsons, President >> Go Daddy Software, Inc. >> >> ICANN Registrar Complaint Form (hosted at InterNIC) >> http://www.internic.net/cgi/registrars/problem-report.cgi >> >> VeriSign Registry Customer Service >> info(a)verisign-grs.com >> Phone: 703-948-3200 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list > You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. > Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ > To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html > This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Politech dinner in SF on 4/16: http://www.politechbot.com/events/cfp2002/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------

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One more reason to drop Network Solutions
by Stephane Bortzmeyer 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

This morning, when clicking on Help on their Web site: You are Here: Help -> Error Error We were unable to answer your question for the following reason: Compiled keyword file not found. Package at 'nsol' could not be loaded. Please contact webmaster(a)networksolutions.com. © Copyright 2002 VeriSign, Inc. All rights reserved.

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Yipes
by Allan Liska 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Hello, Almost a year ago Ralph Los asked the following: "2. They're not funded yet, and selling WAY below cost. Does this mean that a year from now they're going to triple their prices? worse?" Yesterday they declared bankruptcy: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/03/2… Ralph -- if you are still around, I hear Miss Cleo is hiring :). allan -- allan allan(a)allan.org http://www.allan.org

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RE: SNMP and BGP
by Adam Spann 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Thanks to Everyone, The answers were excellent :) I have gone through the mib definition file, and as Anne said in her response, the information I was after is not stored in the mib, I was looking to be able to get the total number of routes from a given Peer from the Mib, in place of the 'show ip bgp sum' command, looks like I will be stuck with that till a new object is added to the Mib. STill now that I have the information, I will be able to do some other things using the mib which should be able to give me a lot more information. Thanks Everyone. Adam Spann.

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looking for GigE providers
by matthew zeier 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

I'm looking for GigE providers in southern California. If you have any recommendations, please let me know. Or any reasons I should stay away from GigE upstream access. thanks. -- matthew zeier - "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - Johann von Neumann

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DNS-O.NET?
by John Palmer (NANOG Acct) 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Is anyone aware of the significance of the domain dns-o.net in China. I just registered this domain for another purpose and pointed it to an empty website for now and the log file is full of what appear to be requests for random URLs (mostly for banners .gifs, etc). I'm just curious if anyone knows the history of that domain. ---- AGN Domain Name Services, Inc http://www.adns.net Since 1995. The Registry for .AMERICA, .EARTH, .LION, .USA and .Z Define yourself or Be Defined. Censorship-free GA list at : http://dns-o.org/mailman/listinfo/ga

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The Cidr Report
by CIDR Report 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Mar 22 23:00:00 PST 2002 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html for a daily update of this report. NEW: Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report-region.html for the regional version of this report. NEW: Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/autnums.html for a complete list of autonomous system number to name mappings as used by the CIDR-Report. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to GX Networks for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to CIDR Report <cidr-report(a)cisco.com>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 22Mar02 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 150302 107703 160302 107617 170302 107671 180302 107620 190302 107636 200302 107764 210302 107710 220302 107724 Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr.plot.html for a plot of the table history. Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- *** Bogus 10.1.1.1/32 from AS(65301) *** Bogus 96.0.0.0/20 from AS3549 AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 12654 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 7701 (4335 cidr, 3366 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 720 announced by AS701 Largest number of classful routes: 1377 announced by AS701 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 22Mar02 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS701 1377 1122 255 18.5% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS1221 1125 873 252 22.4% Telstra Pty Ltd AS17557 242 91 151 62.4% Pakistan Telecom AS852 489 349 140 28.6% Telus Advanced Communications AS7018 821 700 121 14.7% AT&T AS16473 198 77 121 61.1% Bell South AS6595 168 58 110 65.5% DoD Education Activity Network As AS4151 256 150 106 41.4% USDA AS705 309 207 102 33.0% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS7046 348 247 101 29.0% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS19632 94 9 85 90.4% Metropolis Intercom S.A. AS2048 185 104 81 43.8% State of Louisiana AS577 271 191 80 29.5% Bell Advanced Communications Inc. AS12302 116 37 79 68.1% MobiFon S.A. AS9051 100 24 76 76.0% INCONET Autonomous System AS1239 498 422 76 15.3% Sprint AS4323 412 340 72 17.5% Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS4755 218 148 70 32.1% Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonom AS7303 116 51 65 56.0% Telecom Argentina Stet-France Tel AS3908 329 264 65 19.8% Supernet, Inc. AS3464 157 97 60 38.2% Alabama SuperComputer Network AS1 476 416 60 12.6% BBN Planet AS10620 79 21 58 73.4% TVCABLE BOGOTA AS16758 63 6 57 90.5% IKON Office Solutions AS724 203 147 56 27.6% DLA Systems Automation Center AS209 314 258 56 17.8% Qwest AS16814 72 17 55 76.4% NSS, S.A. AS702 588 535 53 9.0% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS226 142 89 53 37.3% Los Nettos AS19834 61 8 53 86.9% NetForce, Inc. Total 54241 42105 12136 22.4% For the rest of the previous weeks gain information please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html 2) Weekly Delta Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report 3) Interesting aggregates Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report

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orbz screwup
by Ukyo Kuonji 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

A mail server I run a mailing list on has just been receiving refused messages, with the servers claiming that the server has been found to be an open relay by orbz. Upon investigating, I noticed that the orbz site is missing any information on sites on the list, and how to get sites off the list. This server is not an open relay. Even though I configured the server, I verified it after I received the message. Any ideas? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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