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Possible New type of DOS attack
by Vinny India 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Anyone out there ever witness an attack were you received several RSHPORT attempts (5 per second) on a cisco router from different spoofed source addresses. It was capable of taking out BGP and OSPF sessions on the router.

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Wanted: Liebert AC Unit
by Gary Attard 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I realize this is not necessarily the most appropriate forum to search for a used five(5) or ten(10) ton Liebert AC Unit but it may be the most effective. I am looking for a used 5 and 10 ton unit for raised floor Data Center - anyone know of any recently closed Data Centers looking to liquidate? Gary Attard-Director of Technical Support Invision.com Inc. http://www.invision.com Phone: (631) 543-1000 x306 Fax: (631) 964-8896 E-Mail: garya(a)invision.net

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Re: PacBell Security/Abuse Contact
by Eric Brandwine 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

>>>>> "db" == David Barak <thegameiam(a)yahoo.com> writes: db> Regarding securiy issues, I'd suggest working with db> UUNet/Worldcom (or whatever AS701 is called lately). db> I've seen some of their folks work closely with db> aggrieved victims of DDOS attacks. I was going to say the same thing, but I'm probably not as believeable. ;) And it's UUNET. It'll remain UUNET until they turn off the last router. ericb -- Eric Brandwine | UNIX was never designed to keep people from doing stupid UUNetwork Security | things, because that policy would also keep them from ericb(a)uu.net | doing clever things. +1 703 886 6038 | - Doug Gwyn Key fingerprint = 3A39 2C2F D5A0 FC7C 5F60 4118 A84A BD5D 59D7 4E3E

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RE: Yipes
by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

How's Cogent looking these days? They, along with Yipes, were always trying to get meetings with me. -carl "Daniel Golding" To: "'Allan Liska'" <allan(a)allan.org>, <nanog(a)merit.edu> <dgolding@soc cc: keye.com> Subject: RE: Yipes Sent by: owner-nanog@m erit.edu 03/24/02 11:02 PM They aren't the only ones.... http://www.washtech.com/news/telecom/15783-1.html Aleron, new owner of Telia USA aka AGIS, has also filed for Chapter 11. - Daniel Golding > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On > Behalf Of Allan Liska > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 2:12 PM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Yipes > > > > Hello, > > Almost a year ago Ralph Los asked the following: > > "2. They're not funded yet, and selling WAY below cost. Does this > mean that a year from now they're going to triple their prices? > worse?" > > Yesterday they declared bankruptcy: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/0 3/23/BU240955.DTL&type=business Ralph -- if you are still around, I hear Miss Cleo is hiring :). allan -- allan allan(a)allan.org http://www.allan.org

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RE: PacBell Security/Abuse contact
by LeBlanc, Jason 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I agree. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Mansey [mailto:jon_mansey@verestar.com] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:17 PM > To: Cheung, Rick > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: PacBell Security/Abuse contact > > > > UUnet, excellent responsive abuse team IMHO. > > jm > > On Monday, March 25, 2002, at 12:12 PM, Cheung, Rick wrote: > > > Does anyone have an opinion on a decent ISP out > there that's > > proven to work with the customer during a DDOS storm? > > > > > > Rick Cheung > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeremy T. Bouse [mailto:Jeremy.Bouse@undergrid.net] > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:46 PM > > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > > Subject: Re: PacBell Security/Abuse contact > > > > > > > > More specifically I belive this is a Distributed > Reflection DoS > > like what hit GRC.COM back on Jan 11th... Basically a flood of SYN > > packets to well known ports from IPs which appear to be > spoofed. I've > > actually been riding it out now for over 2 weeks... > > > > The tech support is completely inept and trying to contact > > security/abuse is pointless. Final realization of this was > when I was > > investigating another PacBell customers box which had been > compromised > > via another PacBell customer machine. After the forensics > to get back > > logs and track the intrusion I tried contacting PacBell to > no avail and > > then resulting it tryin to get in contact with their > customer directly. > > Which I managed to do and resolve the issue... I've never dealt with > > such an inept company before. > > > > Jeremy > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:18:23AM -0800, Daniel M. Spielman wrote: > > > > > > At 11:11 PM 3/24/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > > Anyone have a telephone number that can reach a > live person > > > >within Pacific Bell's Security/Abuse department? > PacBell's technical > > > >support is completely inept with trying to help their > customers when > > > >under any form of network attack other than passing you > to a toll-free > > > >number which informs you to send email to an address > that goes without > > > >answer. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Jeremy T. Bouse > > > > UnderGrid Network Services > > > I've had a similar experience with their tech > team. I was being > > > dos'd from a college in Chicago so I contacted them to > have it filtered > > out > > > and they had no idea what I meant. They suggested I email > the Admin at > > the > > > college to get it resolved. I started screaming at them > how am i going > > to > > > email someone when I am being attacked. Then they > transferred me to > > their > > > supervisor who was even more inept then they were. > Frankly i gave up and > > > just waited out the dos attack which lasted 2 1/2 days. > > > > > >

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Re:PacBell Security/Abuse Contact
by David Barak 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Regarding securiy issues, I'd suggest working with UUNet/Worldcom (or whatever AS701 is called lately). I've seen some of their folks work closely with aggrieved victims of DDOS attacks. -David Barak "Quis custodes ipsos custodiet?" - Juvenal Rick Cheung wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on a decent ISP out there that's proven to work with the customer during a DDOS storm? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

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PacBell Security/Abuse contact
by Jeremy T. Bouse 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Anyone have a telephone number that can reach a live person within Pacific Bell's Security/Abuse department? PacBell's technical support is completely inept with trying to help their customers when under any form of network attack other than passing you to a toll-free number which informs you to send email to an address that goes without answer. Respectfully, Jeremy T. Bouse UnderGrid Network Services

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sprint dsl
by michael＠aplatform.com 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Hello, Could someone from sprint dsl group or netops please contact me offline. This is in regards to sprint business class dsl and routing legacy IP space. Thanks, Michael

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Verio as an DS3 upstream provider - comments?
by matthew zeier 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I'm looking into possibly using Verio as an additional upstream provider. If you have any experience with Verio, can you give me any feedback on them? Thanks. - mz -- matthew zeier - "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - Johann von Neumann

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Re: PacBell Security/Abuse contact
by Walter Prue 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Jeremy, We have been a T3 customer of PacBell for 3 years. We have had a few DOS attacks over the years which required intervention by our backbone providers which included PacBell. In every case their policy was to not help. They refered us to their abuse email address or phone number which promised to get back to us in 72 hours. In each case we involved our salesman who was wonderful! He intervened for us and bumped it up to upper management until we got what we needed. We ended up dropping PacBell in part because of their unwillingness to help during DOS attacks. Walt

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