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valid IP address
by David Barak 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Hi JothirLatha, Clearly it's possible to do this: 4500_3#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. 4500_3(config)#int lo1 4500_3(config-if)#no ip addr 4500_3(config-if)#ip addr 10.1.1.0 255.255.255.255 4500_3(config-if)#int lo2 4500_3(config-if)#ip addr 10.1.1.255 255.255.255.255 4500_3(config-if)#^Z Given that this is the group for network operators, why didn't you just try it? -David Barak "Quis custodes ipsos custodiet?" - Juvenal Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:53:32 -0700 (PDT) From: JothirLatha Jaganathan <jyothi_j(a)yahoo.com> To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Valid ip address ? Can any one tell me if the last byte of a point to point or loopback ipaddress with 32 bit mask can be 0 or 255? For e.g.: Is 10.1.1.0/32 a valid interace address? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Re: Sprint peering policy
by Rizzo Frank 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

"Mitchell, Dan" wrote: > Plan on seeing an SLA of 99.999% Better-than-PSTN reliability, coming soon to an ALGX salesrep near you! What next, Dan, 6 9's? Rizzo, Frank

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Re: Cook Report down?
by Rizzo Frank 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

> Link isn't working this morning. Thanks Jane. I've taken the liberty of copying all interested parties. Frank

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Cook Report down?
by Pawlukiewicz Jane 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Link isn't working this morning. Jane

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RE: Sprint peering policy
by Mitchell, Dan 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Here's what I've "heard" about Sprint and peering... Sprint's minimum to peer is 6 x OC-12's. To peer with them, you have to undergo a 90-day trial period. At the end of the 90 days, they will determine whether or not they would like to peer with you. Here's the catch: During the 90-day trial period, there is a NON-REFUNDABLE $125k/port fee (for each OC-12). So, you're looking at laying out $750k per month for 3 months, or $2.25 MILLION over the 90-day "trial" period, and even then, they MIGHT peer with you. But that's just what I've "heard". On a side note: Folks should keep an eye on Allegiance Internet (the folks I work for). They picked up the old Digex / Intermedia Business Internet backbone and are in the process of integrating it (under AS2548). Financially solid company, very easy to work with, and have some strong uptimes. (Plan on seeing an SLA of 99.999%/99.75%/65ms with a guaranteed 15 minute response time for loss of connectivity to customer prem and a guaranteed 40 business day install). For peering, I'm pretty sure the policy is Tier 1 = 4 points OC-3 or better, Tier 2 = 4 points DS-3 or better (Tier 2 peer pays loop charge if applicable). Thanks, Dan Dan Mitchell Internet Systems Engineer - Boston AllegianceInternet / Hosting.com 781.478.1857 Direct Line dan.mitchell(a)hosting.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Nelson [mailto:jnelson@rackspace.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:04 PM To: Majdi S. Abbas; Ralph Doncaster Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Sprint peering policy http://www.sprintlink.net/policy/index.html --what they publish $$$$$--what they don't jeff "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." --Jon Postel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa(a)samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com> To: "Ralph Doncaster" <ralph(a)istop.com> Cc: <nanog(a)merit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Sprint peering policy > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:39:11PM -0400, Ralph Doncaster wrote: > > While many other tier-1's have publicly listed their peering policies, > > I've never seen anything for 1239. Not that I'd stand a chance, but does > > anyone know what their peering requirements are? > > sprintlink.net# grep peering /etc/aliases > peering: /dev/null > sprintlink.net# > > --msa >

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Hot potato routing
by Walter Green 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Can someone provide basic details on hot potato routing (I am referring to multiple peering interconnections between 2 ISPs) ? Is it implemented by BGP or not ? Regards wg --------------------------------- Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: con webcam, nuove faccine e tante altre novità!

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Routers supporting PPPoE + IPIP tunnel
by Cho Man Fai 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Because of the recent shipment problem of Cisco, I am looking seriously for a cisco 827 substitution. What I need is a router which support PPPoE + IPIP tunnel with Ethernet (or DMT) WAN port. Do you have any idea for products other than cisco which support ipip tunnel? I've tried Netopia, however, it doesn't support ipip tunnel. Many thanks! Cho

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Re: Name Server Change-over completed
by George William Herbert 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

>I guess the moon is in phase with some star somewhere, and now it's time to >argue who's root is he "real" root... Barf. Enough already - we all have >our own roots. one guy follows Vixies roots, while I typically roll my >own. Many others do other things. > >The final point of this insanity is that there is NOT a single root. Hasn't >been for a hell of a long time, and I suspect that there never will be again. I have never seen any alternative root that got more than a few percent visibility penetration, other than Kashpureff's "Go Directly To Jail, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200" trick. While some of you may consider it a victory if you and your two friends can see your private TLDs, the inability of the vast bulk of internet users to resolve your TLDs seems to argue that they're not particularly useful. If your customers can't advertise it to Worldcom and AOL and Mindspring and Earthlink customers (as a representative example set), and you intend to be general purpose, and as far as I can tell none of the alternatives have ever been able to, then you're masturbating rather than crafting serious net policy. This mailing list does not exist to discuss experiments in alternative DNS, if you have not figured out how to surmount the combined political and technical barriers required for general purpose use of those alternative TLDs. -george william herbert gherbert(a)retro.com

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Re: Name Server Change-over completed
by Rizzo Frank 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

"John Palmer (NANOG Acct)" wrote: > Sorry Paul, I guess you don't understand how those TLDTAG records > work. Sorry John, I guess you don't understand how Internet naming works. There is one true root file, and it's not yours. Might I suggest re-reading some ORA publications before you go off spouting some more misinformation on here? > Its no joke. The only joke here is your lack of knowledge concerning basic networking concepts like DNS. Frank

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Re: Name Server Change-over completed
by Rizzo Frank 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

ATTENTION ALL INCLUSIVE NAMESPACE ROOT SERVER ZONE MANAGERS! HEAR YE, HEAR YE! This is either a scam or a really bad joke. I can't tell which, but I pity the people who were mislead into reading this mail and acting accordingly. I repeat, there was no Internet-impacting maintenance going down, and there's nothing you need to change on your nameservers. Your nameservers are not broken, there's nothing to fix. Frank Rizzo

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