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Network abuse - Phone Wars
by Sean Donelan 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

CNN and Fox News personalities have been trading phone numbers. CNN Tucker Carlson gave out Fox News's Washington bureau phone number on the air. Fox New retaliated by posting Carlson's unlisted home number on its Web site. The result was both sides have been innundated with many phone calls (some might even describe it as harrasment). http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15000-2003Sep28.html No word if either Fox News or CNN violated Verizon's telephone acceptable use policies or if Verizon will terminate both CNN and Fox News' telephone privileges.

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ATTN: Anyone with RBL clue at att.net
by Ben Browning 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Something must be highly broken at ATT. I have been receiving tons of emails in response to a Usenet posting I made months ago asking if anyone knew how to get out of att.net's private RBL. The procedure: What I did: Called the contact in the whois record... Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: GNMC (VXGTRUVDOO) rm-hostmaster(a)ems.att.com 3324 Hollenberg Bridgeton, MO 63044 US 314-264-9672 fax: 281-664-9975 Asked for their abuse department. Kept asking and calling back and leaving messages, etc, until finally I got a response. It took me several days. AT&T - please document the removal procedures on your website immediately. You are apparently doing some very heavyhanded blocking and professionalism demands you at least give admins some recourse to figure out why they are blocked and how to fix their problems. ~Ben --- Ben Browning <benb(a)theriver.com> The River Internet Access Co. WA Operations Manager 1-877-88-RIVER http://www.theriver.com

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Re: [Re: Don't like it, order the ISPs to block it]
by Joshua Sahala 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Mike Tancsa <mike(a)sentex.net> wrote: > > I would be happy just to see ISPs live up to their own published AUP. > The Internet would be a MUCH nicer place if this were the case. think NIMBY (not in my back-yard, or rather, not at my isp) - as several well-known list members say, "i encourage my competitors to do it..." too many network operators/admins/engineers/managers like the freedom to do as they choose, and will exclude themselve (and/or their friends) from certain policies. execs like to do this as well - who here has had to open the firewall to allow some sort of microsoft 'service' through? *raising hand* it is stupid, and they should know better, but they can't be bothered to think about little things like security all of the time... > Why does the topic of AUP enforcement gravitate towards straw man > discussions of totalitarian governments? Yeah, I am sure the North > Korean ISP scene is no fun. But this is North America. If a company > wines about the fact that they dont have a business plan that allows > for the enforcement of their published rules ("oh, it just costs too > much money"), they should not BS the public that they have such rules > in the first place. it goes deeper than just isps - corporate america doesn't seem to like watching itself. it likes to try and get away with as much as possible (maximize profits while staying within the law (but only just so)) > If we want our industry to be self policing, and not policed by the > public sector, we better start policing ourselves. i'm sure that mci, global crossing, verisign, enron, and others would publicly agree with you, while privately breaking/bending as many rules as possible for their own benefit * note that i only named them because they are recent cases which demonstrate my point - i know there are others, those just happen to be the 'biggest' my $0.02 /joshua > ---Mike > [cut] "Walk with me through the Universe, And along the way see how all of us are Connected. Feast the eyes of your Soul, On the Love that abounds. In all places at once, seemingly endless, Like your own existence." - Stephen Hawking -

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InterNAP
by Gabriel 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Anybody seeing routing trouble getting to internap network? It looks like internap is unreachable: ... 14 InterNAPSeattle2.so-2-0-0.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net (208.51.239.178) [AS3549] 71 ms 71 ms 70 ms 15 border5.ge3-1-bbnet1.sef.pnap.net (63.251.160.10) [AS14744] 216 ms 115 ms 203 ms 16 * * * ... 30 * * * Anyone else seen or heard anything? -- Gabriel Cain www.dialupusa.net Dialup USA, Inc. 888-460-2286 ext 208 PGP fingerprint: C0B4 C6BF 13F5 69D1 3E6B CD7C D4C8 2EA4 2B08 1C6D

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Alternative Satellite news feed needed
by Jeffrey Wheat 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Since Cidera is going offline again, I am in need of seeking an alternative. Does anyone know of a non-land line based news feed? With the tremendous amount of news that we pull a day, I am not willing to spend the kind of money that would be required to sustain the same amount of traffic over leased lines. Thanks in advance, Jeffrey --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003

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what happened to ARIN tonight ?
by Mike Tancsa 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

The Oregon route server seems to indicate they are off the air. Not that I care to look at fee schedules tonight, but the whois server for in-addr.arpa is toast as a result :-( ---Mike BGP routing table entry for 192.149.252.0/24, version 1277910 Paths: (57 available, best #48, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Flag: 0x8A0 Not advertised to any peer 15290 7018 701 7046 (history entry) 216.191.65.126 from 216.191.65.126 (216.191.65.126) Origin IGP, localpref 100, external Dampinfo: penalty 1407, flapped 2 times in 00:02:01 6939 7911 701 7046 (history entry) 216.218.252.152 from 216.218.252.152 (216.218.252.152) Origin IGP, localpref 100, external Dampinfo: penalty 1408, flapped 2 times in 00:01:42 15290 7018 701 7046 (history entry) 216.191.65.118 from 216.191.65.118 (216.191.65.118) Origin IGP, localpref 100, external Dampinfo: penalty 1407, flapped 2 times in 00:02:00 6395 1239 701 7046 (history entry) 216.140.2.59 from 216.140.2.59 (216.140.2.59) Origin IGP, metric 5657, localpref 100, external Community: 6395:1 6395:1007 Dampinfo: penalty 2796, flapped 4 times in 00:01:46 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike(a)sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike

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RE: Converting from telco Major-V, Major-H coordinates to Lat Long
by Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

From: Claudio Gutiérrez [mailto:cgutierrez@telycon.cl] > I think http://datec.web.att.com/faqs/telecom.htm is an internal AT&T webserver Arrgh.. You're correct, and I should have noticed. It's the 1996 FAQ for Telecom Digest, Message-ID: <95.12.30.223ghbe6(a)massis.lcs.mit.edu> TELECOM Digest - Frequently Asked Questions - v.7 17 December 1995 from newsgroup comp.dcom.telecom.tech It's still in v.8 - http://www.teletechnics.co.nz/reference/telecom/telecom_faq.html

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RE: Cidera Service Shutting Down
by John Lord 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Is there another sat news service ? John Lord It Manager AllTurbo Internet Services Inc 410-213-9388 Office www.allturbo.com -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Solomon [mailto:ssolomon@ind.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:59 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: FW: Cidera Service Shutting Down For those of you who didn't get the memo.... :) It is happening, Again. -- Shawn Solomon Senior Network Engineer / Systems Design IHETS / ITN 317.263.8875 ssolomon(a)ind.net fx317.263.8831 -----Original Message----- From: Julie Peoples [mailto:lpeoples@cidera.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:39 AM To: voipnet(a)cidera.com Subject: Cidera Service Shutting Down Good morning, Sadly, VOIPnet, d.b.a. Cidera, has been instructed to cease transmission on the satellite transponder at 11:00 a.m. EDT, today, September 30, 2003. We regret that we could not give our customers any more notice than we were given. We wish to thank all of our loyal customers for staying the course with us over all this time. We wish them the best of luck in the future. Sorrowfully, Julie "we live with regret, things fall apart. The center cannot hold....farewell"

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FW: Cidera Service Shutting Down
by Shawn Solomon 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

For those of you who didn't get the memo.... :) It is happening, Again. -- Shawn Solomon Senior Network Engineer / Systems Design IHETS / ITN 317.263.8875 ssolomon(a)ind.net fx317.263.8831 -----Original Message----- From: Julie Peoples [mailto:lpeoples@cidera.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:39 AM To: voipnet(a)cidera.com Subject: Cidera Service Shutting Down Good morning, Sadly, VOIPnet, d.b.a. Cidera, has been instructed to cease transmission on the satellite transponder at 11:00 a.m. EDT, today, September 30, 2003. We regret that we could not give our customers any more notice than we were given. We wish to thank all of our loyal customers for staying the course with us over all this time. We wish them the best of luck in the future. Sorrowfully, Julie "we live with regret, things fall apart. The center cannot hold....farewell"

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VeriSign tapped to secure Internet voting
by Eric Germann 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Hope they don't just wildcard the virtual hanging chads... They could start with a vote on who likes global wildcards in .com and .net ---- http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1029_3-5083772.html?part=msnbc-cnet&tag=alert &form=feed&subj=cnetnews VeriSign announced Monday that it will provide key components of a system designed to let Americans abroad cast absentee votes over the Internet. ========================================================================== Eric Germann CCTec ekgermann(a)cctec.com Van Wert OH 45891 http://www.cctec.com Ph: 419 968 2640 Fax: 603 825 5893 "The fact that there are actually ways of knowing and characterizing the extent of one’s ignorance, while still remaining ignorant, may ultimately be more interesting and useful to people than Yarkovsky" -- Jon Giorgini of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory

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