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Re: Fundamental changes to Internet architecture
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

No, _telephone_service_ has changed, but the POTS/PSTN is pretty much the same as it has been for the past 20 years. - ferg -- <ennova2005-nanog(a)yahoo.com> wrote: And the phone network was "pretty far along to fundamentally change" - and then it id. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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RE: ISP phishing
by Hannigan, Martin 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of > Brad Knowles > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:48 PM > To: Peter Corlett > Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: ISP phishing > > > > At 12:20 PM +0000 2005-06-29, Peter Corlett wrote: > > > Sure Alice has control. Last week, I told my ISP where to > stick their > > shoddy service and took my business elsewhere. > > You're assuming that there are always alternatives > available for > the entire world population. While there may usually be alternatives > available in the most advanced western societies, you would be > surprised at the types of places where you would think that there > have to be alternatives, but in fact there aren't any. It also assumes that there are real differences in the alternatives in civilized society. In fact, you can only spell "HTTP" so many ways. There are less discernable differences these days. >you would be > surprised at the types of places where you would think that there > have to be alternatives, but in fact there aren't any. There aren't alternatives because of the cost. In other cases the national climate i.e. protectionist of the incumbent or desire to hold it closely for political reasons i.e. China. -M<

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Experiences with Singlestep Unity?
by Olivier Beauchemin (gmail) 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

It was suggested that I re-post my question with a more specific subject line... I'm in the process of building a NOC for my current employer, and I'm interested in knowing if any folks on this list have ever worked with a product called Unity, by Singlestep? (www.singlestep.com) If so, I'd love to hear about your experiences. Please reply off-list, and if there's any interest I'll summarize to the list after the comments are in. Regards, Olivier

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Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
by Christopher L. Morrow 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Mohacsi Janos wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Mohacsi Janos wrote: > >>> > >>> This keeps coming up in each discussion about v6, 'what security measures' > >>> is never really defined in any real sense. As near as I can tell it's > >>> level of 'security' is no better (and probably worse at the outset, for > >>> the implementations not the protocol itself) than v4. I could be wrong, > >>> but I'm just not seeing any 'inherent security' in v6, and selling it that > >>> way is just a bad plan. > >>> > >> > >> Just name a few: > >> - Possibility to end-to-end IPSec. > > > > exists in v4 > > Not exactly. Try to setup IPSec nodes behind NAT boxes. IPSec is speaking > about possibility of e2e security. this changes how in v6+nat? > > > > >> - Not feasible scanning of subnets remotely > > > > eh... maybe, I'm not convinced this matters anyway. > > > >> - Privacy enhanced addresses - not tracking usage based on addresses > > > > dhcp can do this for you (v4 has mechanisms for this) > > DHCP does not provide privacy, just address management. Can you > communicate on IPv4 the following way?: - different service - different > source IP address? > yes. look at bitchx, or ssh ... corner cases to be sure, but still feasible. (or simple example: vhosted webserver) As to dhcp, it can provide the address privacy you seek, just use very short leases. (yes, it's messy, but it'd work mostly) > > > >> - Better ingress filtering > >> > > > > right... because gear that filters so well in v4-land will filter so much > > better in v6-land? you == crazy. > > No because your address space not scattered in IPv6. Try to setup ingress > filtering in IPv4 if you have a network that was setup several disjoint > /24 and /26s. This is not exceptional in some cases, after mergers, two > sites joined etc. With IPv6 you can re-engineer your network! > that'd be fine if filtering worked reliably... I'd be that ingress filtering (or egress filtering) will eventually be as 'easy' in v6 as it is in v4. I'd say that for now, with the wierd multi-homing setup in v6 it's even harder initially... > Anyway you have to wash you mouth. > > > + > > Have you tried to find out in a IPv4 NAT environment where the virus/worm > flood is coming? - Most of the situation it is coming from the NAT box - actually that's kind of my daily job... it seems to work fine for me so far. > not because NAT box was infected, but because nodes behind NAT was > infected. Most of the cases admins of the networks behind NAT boxes not > knowledgeable enough where to look in this cases. So IPv6 can improve e2e > accountability that is part of the security. > because it removes the 'requirement' for NAT? or in some other magical way? If you look/listen to the users of NAT, a large proportion of them will continue to use NAT in v6 (or have stated they will)... I'm not sure your above arguement is as valid as you'd like it to be :( > > > > > > All those objections aside, I'd love to see v6 more fully deployed. I'm > > not sure I see how it's going to get beyond 'research' or 'play' land, > > except for some small cases, for quite some time. It's interesting that > > the flood gates on ip space are openning at IANA though, that should > > hasten the v6 takeup/deployment :) > > This will be be fall of MCI.... this and the 11B fraud and the crooked execs and what else? I'm not sure why v6 will be anymore of a fall for mci then any of the previously mentioned locusts-o-doom.... but predict away, it's fun and we add these to our office pool :)

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Re: Fundamental changes to Internet architecture
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

--David Andersen <dga+(a)cs.cmu.edu> wrote: >In fact, Fergie's later comment "... We're pretty far along in our >current architecture to 'fundamentally' change" is actually the root of >what I think DC is trying to get at. I think it's a very reasonable >question to ask: Is the Internet heading towards a local maxima? (I >don't know the answer!) What is it possible to change in today's >Internet? Imagine a couple of things that seem desirable: Better security & authentication systems are on the top of my list. But this is an extremely slippery topic for a number of reasons--primarily, I think, because operating systems and applications are commercial endeavors, and therefore market driven. I think that as long as the Internet, and more importantly connectivity to it, remains in the commercial realm, these particular issues are difficult to acheive, regardless of even the standards processes, IMO. Not that I don't think it is not able to be achieved, just that it's commercial nature makes it more difficult. :-) - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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Re: Fundamental changes to Internet architecture
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Well, it _is_ research, after all... :-) - ferg -- John Kristoff <jtk(a)northwestern.edu> wrote: > With all respect to Dave, and not to sound too skeptical, > but we're pretty far along in our current architecture to > "fundamentally" change, don't you think (emphasis on > fundamentally)? >From the article it seems clear that the focus is on 'new', not 'changed'. No need (and probably little likelihood now) to change this architecture if you don't want to, but a new architecture may come along that make this one seem quite outmoded. I'm skeptical about something truly new coming from this specific project, but I hope it comes from somewhere. With any luck someday we'll be referred to as those 'old interphants'. :-) John -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 1 21:45:49 2005 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 24-06-05 161602 110023 25-06-05 161611 110060 26-06-05 161563 110077 27-06-05 161541 110072 28-06-05 161583 110024 29-06-05 161481 110119 30-06-05 161629 110141 01-07-05 161844 110246 AS Summary 19861 Number of ASes in routing system 8187 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1478 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7018 : ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 90549760 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS721 : DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 01Jul05 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 161916 110236 51680 31.9% All ASes AS4323 1123 221 902 80.3% TWTC - Time Warner Telecom AS18566 825 8 817 99.0% COVAD - Covad Communications AS4134 909 228 681 74.9% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS721 1111 568 543 48.9% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center AS27364 555 22 533 96.0% ACS-INTERNET - Armstrong Cable Services AS7018 1478 957 521 35.3% ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services AS7725 497 15 482 97.0% CCH-AS7 - Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc AS22773 498 25 473 95.0% CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. AS6197 927 507 420 45.3% BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS3602 542 150 392 72.3% SPRINT-CA-AS - Sprint Canada Inc. AS17676 436 80 356 81.7% JPNIC-JP-ASN-BLOCK Japan Network Information Center AS6467 382 34 348 91.1% ESPIRECOMM - e.spire Communications, Inc. AS9929 367 49 318 86.6% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS4766 577 281 296 51.3% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS6140 394 113 281 71.3% IMPSAT-USA - ImpSat AS14654 282 12 270 95.7% WAYPORT - Wayport AS15270 310 59 251 81.0% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc. AS5668 488 239 249 51.0% AS-5668 - CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. AS1239 880 638 242 27.5% SPRINTLINK - Sprint AS23126 260 20 240 92.3% KMCTELCOM-DIA - KMC Telecom, Inc. AS2386 881 650 231 26.2% INS-AS - AT&T Data Communications Services AS4755 526 298 228 43.3% VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System AS6167 296 71 225 76.0% CELLCO-PART - Cellco Partnership AS812 242 20 222 91.7% ROGERS-CABLE - Rogers Cable Inc. AS6198 462 240 222 48.1% BATI-MIA - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS22909 363 149 214 59.0% DNEO-OSP1 - Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. AS11456 312 99 213 68.3% NUVOX - NuVox Communications, Inc. AS9498 326 114 212 65.0% BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. AS6478 378 167 211 55.8% ATT-INTERNET3 - AT&T WorldNet Services AS9583 756 551 205 27.1% SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited Total 17383 6585 10798 62.1% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.246.0.0/17 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 64.9.224.0/19 AS209 ASN-QWEST - Qwest 64.17.32.0/24 AS13488 CBWU-13488 - Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited 64.17.33.0/24 AS13488 CBWU-13488 - Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited 64.17.37.0/24 AS13488 CBWU-13488 - Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited 64.127.0.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 66.37.96.0/20 AS3764 IA-HOU-AS - Internet America, Inc. 66.187.96.0/22 AS9227 ONEHUNDRED-AS-AP ONE HUNDRED SERVICES, INC. 66.187.96.0/24 AS9227 ONEHUNDRED-AS-AP ONE HUNDRED SERVICES, INC. 66.187.97.0/24 AS9227 ONEHUNDRED-AS-AP ONE HUNDRED SERVICES, INC. 66.187.98.0/24 AS9227 ONEHUNDRED-AS-AP ONE HUNDRED SERVICES, INC. 66.187.99.0/24 AS9227 ONEHUNDRED-AS-AP ONE HUNDRED SERVICES, INC. 66.187.100.0/24 AS18194 PMMSI-AS-AP Philippine Multi-Media 66.187.101.0/24 AS18194 PMMSI-AS-AP Philippine Multi-Media 66.187.102.0/24 AS18194 PMMSI-AS-AP Philippine Multi-Media 66.187.103.0/24 AS18194 PMMSI-AS-AP Philippine Multi-Media 66.187.104.0/24 AS18194 PMMSI-AS-AP Philippine Multi-Media 66.187.105.0/24 AS18194 PMMSI-AS-AP Philippine Multi-Media 66.187.108.0/24 AS10026 ANC Asia Netcom Corporation 66.205.193.0/24 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 66.205.194.0/24 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 66.205.206.0/24 AS21510 TRISTAR - Tristar Communications 70.64.0.0/13 AS6327 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc. 72.24.0.0/16 AS11492 CABLEONE - CABLE ONE 72.29.80.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.81.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.82.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.83.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.84.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.85.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.86.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.87.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.88.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.89.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.90.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.91.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.92.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.93.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.94.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 72.29.95.0/24 AS22659 LIQUIDIX - LIQUID COMMUNICATIONS, INC. 132.0.0.0/10 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 137.0.0.0/13 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 138.136.0.0/13 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 158.0.0.0/13 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 163.142.0.0/16 AS2500 JPNIC-ASBLOCK-AP JPNIC 190.192.193.0/24 AS3301 TELIANET-SWEDEN TeliaNet Sweden 192.30.93.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.94.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.40.105.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.43.230.0/24 AS7575 AARNET-AS-AP Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.44.0.0/24 AS5501 FRAUNHOFER-CLUSTER-BW Fraunhofer Gesellschaft 192.70.164.0/24 AS25689 NRCNET-AS - National Research Council of Canada 192.81.182.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.81.183.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.81.184.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.88.99.0/24 AS29259 DE-IABG-TELEPORT IABG Teleport, DE 192.107.104.0/24 AS6458 GUATEL 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 PSCNI-AS - National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.133.6.0/24 AS4004 GLOBALONE-EQUANT-UK Equant UK & Greece Autonomous System 192.135.50.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 192.136.53.0/24 AS8346 SONATEL-AS Autonomous System 192.153.144.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 192.172.0.0/19 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 192.188.208.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 192.200.100.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 193.30.28.0/22 AS12374 LFNET-AS01 LF.net Netzwerksysteme GmbH 193.32.19.0/24 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 193.32.20.0/23 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 193.36.1.0/24 AS8220 COLT COLT Telecommunications - www.colt.net <www.colt.net> 193.37.69.0/24 AS2856 BT-UK-AS BTnet UK Regional network 193.37.236.0/24 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 193.110.77.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 193.110.78.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 193.110.79.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 193.110.97.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 194.31.227.0/24 AS21461 TRANSFAIRNET Transfair-net GmbH Krefeld 194.32.174.0/23 AS8426 CLARANET-AS ClaraNET 194.59.176.0/20 AS1273 CW Cable & Wireless 194.59.178.0/24 AS8481 TRANSNET transnet INTERNET Services 194.153.156.0/24 AS24865 KMITCHELL-AS Keith Mitchell's Network 194.246.72.0/23 AS8893 ARTFILES-AS Artfiles New Media GmbH 196.2.95.0/24 AS8668 TELONE-AS TelOne Zimbabwe P/L 196.3.162.0/24 AS6083 AFRINIC African Network Information Center 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM - Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.97.72.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.80.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.88.0/24 AS89 NUSC-CSTLNET-AS - Naval Underwater Systems Center 198.97.240.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.247.0/24 AS3475 LANT-AFLOAT - Department of the Navy 198.101.4.0/22 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCNET - Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.144.32.0/19 AS3998 CITY-NET - CityNet, Inc. 198.160.171.0/24 AS7046 UUNET-CUSTOMER - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GROUPTLCOM - GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MTSAL-ASN - MTS Allstream Inc. 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INTERHOP - Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ALLST-15290 - Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASKTEL - SaskTel 198.203.254.0/23 AS7046 UUNET-CUSTOMER - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS-AS - Skotos Tech, Inc 199.9.128.0/17 AS668 ASN-ASNET-NET-AS - Defense Research and Engineering Network 199.10.0.0/16 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 BCNET-AS - University of British Columbia 199.96.44.0/23 AS19092 360NETWORKS-US - 360Networks (USA) Inc. 199.96.46.0/24 AS19092 360NETWORKS-US - 360Networks (USA) Inc. 199.114.0.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.128.0/18 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.134.0/24 AS3541 ITSDN-U4 - DISA/UNRRA 199.114.136.0/24 AS27044 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.138.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 ITSDN-U7 - DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS27033 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.153.0/24 AS27034 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NEXTLEVELINTERNET - NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.0.0/18 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.16.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.80.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST-AS - IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 200.49.0.0/20 AS14551 ALTERNET-SA-AS - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 200.49.8.0/21 AS6140 IMPSAT-USA - ImpSat 201.217.128.0/18 AS6057 Administracion Nacional de Telecomunicaciones 202.86.252.0/22 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 203.62.0.0/17 AS7572 AARNET-ACT-RNO Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.78.48.0/20 AS9299 IPG-AS-AP Philippine Long Distance Telephone Company 203.99.0.0/19 AS17746 ORCONINTERNET-NZ-AP Orcon Internet 203.99.142.0/24 AS9826 ILINK-HK-AP iLink.net Ltd 203.210.69.0/24 AS17536 PRODIGY-AS-AP Prodidgy Telecommunications 204.48.118.0/23 AS29912 CITIZENS-PROPERTY-INSURANCE-CORPORATION - Citizens Property Insurance Corporation 204.48.119.0/24 AS29912 CITIZENS-PROPERTY-INSURANCE-CORPORATION - Citizens Property Insurance Corporation 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.194.110.0/23 AS30653 EXOBIT - Exobit Networks Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 ALTERNET-AS - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 206.108.96.0/19 AS577 BACOM - Bell Advanced Communications Inc. 206.128.104.0/21 AS11709 VIC - VIRTUAL INTERACTIVE CENTER 206.167.57.0/24 AS376 RISQ-AS - Reseau Interordinateurs Scientique Quebecois (RISQ) 206.188.0.0/20 AS14492 DATAPIPE - DataPipe 206.191.64.0/18 AS15290 ALLST-15290 - Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 206.191.96.0/19 AS15290 ALLST-15290 - Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 207.32.160.0/19 AS14563 MICROCAST - Microcast, Inc 207.32.219.0/24 AS4508 NETSOUTH - American Registry for Internet Numbers 207.32.220.0/24 AS4508 NETSOUTH - American Registry for Internet Numbers 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA - NuNet Inc 208.53.224.0/19 AS13576 SDNET - SOUTH DAKOTA NETWORK 208.138.48.0/20 AS6971 ATG-1 - Advanced Telcom Group, Inc 209.40.208.0/21 AS16592 Cybernet El Salvador 209.40.216.0/21 AS16592 Cybernet El Salvador 209.44.124.0/24 AS22241 ICCEPTS - Integrated Communications Concepts 209.205.69.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.70.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.81.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.82.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.84.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.213.32.0/19 AS10629 INTERPAC - Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.251.0.0/19 AS11036 SISCOM - SISCOM, Inc 216.37.110.0/23 AS4264 CERNET-ASN-BLOCK - California Education and Research Federation Network 216.82.160.0/20 AS20481 CALYX-NL Calyx Internet B.V. Netherlands 216.96.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.145.200.0/21 AS20304 JVLNET - JVLNET Internet Services 216.171.96.0/20 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.178.37.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.178.39.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.178.42.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.178.43.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.228.64.0/21 AS6295 WHIDBEY1 - Whidbey Internet Services Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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RE: ATM
by James Laszko 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Most MPLS networks use a combination of point to point, frame and ATM facilities as the infrastructure. The phone companies use ATM just about everywhere to deliver voice across their networks. I don't see ATM/FR equipment being EOL'd anytime in the near future. James Laszko Pipeline Communications, Inc. james(a)pcipros.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher L. Morrow Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:25 AM To: Jason Frisvold Cc: Petri Helenius; Philip Lavine; nanog Subject: Re: ATM On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Jason Frisvold wrote: > > On 6/29/05, Petri Helenius <pete(a)he.iki.fi> wrote: > > Maybe the small fact that ATM is fading away and building new networks > > with technology going away is going to explode your operational cost in > > a few years time. Business grade IP networks will provide you with equal > > if not better performance than a "dedicated" ATM WAN. > > And being replaced with .... ? GigE? DPT/RPR? MPLS? > > ATM is a great technology... Unfortunately, I don't think it was ever > fully utilized.. From what I understand, MPLS takes some of the good > bits and combines it with traditional routing.. But I don't see a lot > of MPLS implementations either... look to the private networks luke... Seriously, many large private ATM/Frame networks are transitioning to MPLS networks because the ATM or Frame gear is/was/will-be-shortly EOL/EOS from the vendors. The costs to run these networks don't jibe well with the alternatives. Now, start the discussion on: "private network" and "mpls vpn" and "oops, hey, that runs over the same routers as that bad-old Internet thing with the haxors and such!" :)

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Equinox Power Failure
by Pablo's Gmail 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Does anyone have related and/or specific outage information to the Equinox IBX facility in Chicago that occurred this past weekend? I'm more curious of actual root cause of their power facilities, outage timelines, response times...etc. thanks, Pablo

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Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 30 Jun '05

30 Jun '05

The author of the TechWeb article wrote those words extolling "improved security measures", not me, dude. :-) I stated explicitly that all of the "new features" lauded by v6 proponents have effectively been retro-fitted to v4, thereby negating almost every v6 migration argument, with the exception of a larger host address pool. Equally dumbfounded in v4-land, - ferg -- "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow(a)mci.com> wrote: > over the current IPv4 technology. Among the additional > advantages of IPv6 are improved security measures and > additional links for wireless devices. > which 'security measures' are included in ipv6? which additional links for wireless devices? This keeps coming up in each discussion about v6, 'what security measures' is never really defined in any real sense. As near as I can tell it's level of 'security' is no better (and probably worse at the outset, for the implementations not the protocol itself) than v4. I could be wrong, but I'm just not seeing any 'inherent security' in v6, and selling it that way is just a bad plan. -dazed and confused in ipv4-land. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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