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Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation
by Zoran Perovic 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

We at SOX (Serbian Open eXchange www.sox.rs) use a combination of Extreme Networks Summit X650 (24x10G), and CISCO 4948E-E (4x10G+48xGEth), and recently added Vyatta with 2xIntel 82599ES dual 10G NIC, built on HPDL180G6 with 2xE5620 Xeon, and for route servers we use 2 additional HP servers running Quagga. Both Extreme, CISCO, and Vyatta could speak BGP, and do the routing, but we prefer CISCO to do the routing, as well as aggregation of GEth customers, VLAN translation etc. Vyatta works like a charm, but in very limited rule, routing what CISCO could not handle due to limitation in number of prefixes. Routing in Extreme is very expensive due to high price of Core license which is required for routing features. Best Zoran Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:53:14 -1000 From: Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> To: Nitzan Tzelniker <nitzan.tzelniker(a)gmail.com> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation Message-ID: <m2a9f8g4l1.wl%randy(a)psg.com <mailto:m2a9f8g4l1.wl%25randy@psg.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > A little bit overkill in term of number of ports but you can consider > the new Trident 2 switches Juniper EX-5100, Cisco Nexus 3100 ..... > They have unified TCAM that can store 128K v4 routes the nice thing about buying bgp devices that can not hold a full table is that you can expense them in the year of purchase as opposed to amortizing them over 5 years or so. randy

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Query: fate of ipdeny.com
by Rich Kulawiec 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

ipdeny.com provided a highly useful service: IP address allocations on a per-country basis. The site's still live but all (or nearly all) the data files are empty. The blog hasn't been updated, and email via their contact form goes unanswered. I'd like to know if anybody here has a clue as to what happened, why, whether they'll be back, etc. Thanks, ---rsk

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Vyatta to VyOS
by Ray Soucy 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Many here might be interested, In response to Brocade not giving the community edition of Vyatta much attention recently, some of the more active community members have created a fork of the GPL code used in Vyatta. It's called VyOS, and yesterday they released 1.0. http://vyos.net/ I've been playing with the development builds and it seems to be every bit as stable as the Vyatta releases. Will be interesting to see how the project unfolds :-) -- Ray Patrick Soucy Network Engineer University of Maine System T: 207-561-3526 F: 207-561-3531 MaineREN, Maine's Research and Education Network www.maineren.net

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DNS-OARC Call for Presentations
by Mehmet Akcin 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Spring Workshop, May 2014 Next OARC Spring Workshop will take place in Warsaw, Poland on May 10th and 11th, the weekend before RIPE68. OARC is requesting proposals for presentations, with a preference for DNS privacy and confidentiality work and ideas, and DNS over alternative (non UDP) transports. This workshop continues OARC's tradition of having meetings include a strong operational component. Presentations from DNS operators are particularly welcome. We'll also gladly accept talks from DNS researchers, as well as any other DNS-related subjects such as tools, visualizations and data analysis. If you are an OARC member, and have a sensitive topic you would like to present for members-only, we will accommodate those talks too. Adopting practice from other conferences, a section of lightning talks will be added for short presentations. Workshop Milestones * 20 December 2013, Call for Presentations posted * 6 January 2014, Open for submissions * 1 March 2014, Deadline for submission * 28 March 2014, Final Program published * May 9 2014, Final deadline for slideset submission Details for abstract submission will be published here: https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/workshop-2014-05 at the beginning of January 2014. If you consider submitting a presentation, please let the Programme Committee know in advance to help us organize the presentations tracks. You can contact the Programme Committee: https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/programme via submissions at dns-oarc.net if you have questions or concerns. Mehmet Akcin, for the OARC Programme Committee (Please note that OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.)

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Amazon help
by Blair Trosper 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

Can someone from AWS/Amazon netops contact me off-list for help an issue?

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Re: Comcast/Level3 issues
by Paul WALL 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Kevin, Thank you for the info. Can you say how many quarters or years until Comcast is resolved? I've seen references to that obscure whitepaper (co-authored, ironically, by Patrick Gilmore) before on the broadbandreports forums, by someone with a lot of knowledge on Comcast's network and internal politics/peering discussions. Do you know who the poster is? https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=28619103+dslreports+site:www.dslrepor… Drive Slow, Paul WALL On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:17 PM, McElearney, Kevin <Kevin_McElearney(a)cable.comcast.com> wrote: > FWIW, we work with each issue and try to fix them as best we can. Several > are underway. Much of the ³traffic shifting² is happening external to > Comcast with very large traffic swings congesting AND uncongesting paths. > The beauty of adaptive routing via CDN and text book ³Creating Incentives > to Peer² - feel free to google that... > > - Kevin > > On 1/5/14, 1:22 AM, "Paul WALL" <pauldotwall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>The people pushing this policy are not without a face and name. They read >>this mailing list, and attend our conferences. You'll want to talk to >>John >>Schanz, Kevin McElearney, and Barry Tishgart. >> >>Drive Slow (like a Comcast peering port), >>Paul Wall >> >> >>On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Scott Berkman <scott(a)sberkman.net> wrote: >> >>> Comcast having saturated links to other providers is a common and >>> frequently discussed issue. Here is one previous NANOG thread on the >>>topic: >>> >>> http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-December/029251.html >>> >>> And a related article: >>> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Claims-Resurface- >>> Concerning-Congested-Comcast-TATA-Links-111818 >>> >>> There are debates back and forth on the validity of the graphs from the >>> NANOG post, but it is a fact that at that time Comcast was heavily >>> pre-pending their Level BGP advertisements to force traffic over to >>>Tata, >>> and many many people noticed congestion at those links in a variety of >>> markets. >>> >>> I wish you luck, but my personal opinion is that your fastest resolution >>> would be to move to another provider. Comcast is a residential ISP that >>> lives on extreme over-subscription and not actually being able to >>>deliver >>> what customers believe they have. You'll notice a lot of recent news >>>about >>> increased and more strict data caps for their subscribers, and that is >>>the >>> only thing they will likely be doing to relieve these types of recurring >>> issues. >>> >>> -Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> On 01/02/2014 11:18 PM, R W wrote: >>> >>>> I'm seeing the same as well. Can anyone from Comcast/Level(3) reach out >>>> to me or provide comment. We're seeing heavy jitter and some packet >>>>loss >>>> most noticeable in NYC area connections between Level(3) and Comcast. >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:45:00 -0800 >>>>> Subject: Comcast/Level3 issues >>>>> From: dwheet(a)gmail.com >>>>> To: nanog(a)nanog.org >>>>> >>>>> Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3. I've been >>>>> having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going >>>>> through >>>>> level3 and I think there might be some congestion. >>>>> >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >

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turning on comcast v6
by Randy Bush 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

http://comcast6.net/ tells me that the local cmts is v6 enabled. my modem, a cisco dpc3008, is in the supported products list. so how do i turn the sucker on? randy

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Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 72, Issue 17
by Ralph Droms (rdroms) 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 11:40:29 -0800 > From: Owen DeLong <owen(a)delong.com> > To: Doug Barton <dougb(a)dougbarton.us> > Cc: "nanog(a)nanog.org" <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: Re: turning on comcast v6 > Message-ID: <741B5A5F-3D87-4BA2-9349-F5BB94A8B483(a)delong.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > [...] > Doesn't have to be... You can create any local DHCPv6 extension you like. That _IS_ in the spec. > > Owen Well, not exactly. The authors of RFC 3315, smarting (if I recall correctly) from the local options debacle in DHCPv4, didn't set aside any experimental option codes for DHCPv6. Oops and mea culpa. Having said that, I suppose I can't formally recommend that an implementor use an option code somewhere near the top of the range and implement a quick extension to a client and server for the default router option, which would result in some running code to point at. But running code isn't enough. The last time I took the default router option to the IETF, it died (in the 6man WG, again trusting to memory) for lack of support. More or less the same thing more recently in the mif WG (more support in mif, but it was the wrong WG). So, someone will have to do the hard work of shepherding and supporting the document through publication in the right WG. I understand Nick Hilliard may be undertaking that effort; those interested in the new option might want to lend Nick a hand (apologies to Nick if I've got that wrong). - Ralph

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IXP + government transparency report
by Martin Hannigan 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

As well as being first to be open-ix certified, I think LINX hit a second first that is as interesting; https://www.linx.net/service/publicpeering/novafiles/nova-usgov-reports.html Applause +LINX Best, -M<

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Uverse Cleveland OH question
by Jay Ashworth 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

If there's anyone with firsthand knowledge of that system, could you shoot me a note off-list? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274

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