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How to choose a transit provider?
by Mehmet Akcin 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

Hello there, I have started writing a blog which I hope it would help buy transit services from providers by doing various due diligences(technical) i wanted to reach out and ask nanog community’s thoughts on this. What are some of your checklist items ? Price? Their directly peered networks? If they are tier 2,3 who they use as tier 1-2? Are the onnet? I am sure list goes on and on on... Thanks a lot for your help. I plan to write the blog this month and publish. Mehmet -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903

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email scannering / filtering
by David Funderburk 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

What open source email filtering system is working well for you? Regards, David Funderburk GlobalVision 864-569-0703 For Technical Support, please email gv-support(a)globalvision.net. -- This message has been scanned by E.F.A. Project and is believed to be clean.

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IRR Cleanliness
by Graham Johnston 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

Hi, I'm in the middle of transitioning all of my IRR data from RADb to ARIN and as part of this I am trying to get old stale IRR data cleaned up that other providers have put in place in the past. While doing this I was using the nlnog IRR explorer website and found that a company that I peer with on a public exchange has my ASN listed in an as-macro that they control. The way the as-macro is named I am reasonably confident that they aren't using it for transit related activity, rather they are likely using it for controlling peering activity and filtering on the IX in question. Part of me is okay with this, but given that I've never seen this behavior from any other provider on the three reasonably large exchanges that we participate on I am curious what the community thinks about this. Is this uncommon but acceptable in the eyes of community? Thanks, Graham

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by cscora＠apnic.net 14 Dec '18

14 Dec '18

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 15 Dec, 2018 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 729792 Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS): 280875 Deaggregation factor: 2.60 Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets): 351369 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 62704 Prefixes per ASN: 11.64 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 54098 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 23512 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 8606 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 257 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.0 Max AS path length visible: 30 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 16327) 25 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 39 Number of instances of unregistered ASNs: 39 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 25220 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 20431 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 88037 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 19 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 1 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 283 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2838283681 Equivalent to 169 /8s, 44 /16s and 197 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 76.7 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 76.7 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 99.1 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 243329 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 199478 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 56775 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.51 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 196626 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 80923 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 9308 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 21.12 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 2624 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1396 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.0 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 29 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 4301 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 768781696 Equivalent to 45 /8s, 210 /16s and 173 /24s APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-64098, 64297-64395, 131072-139577 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 216291 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 102837 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.10 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 215591 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 103289 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 18300 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 11.78 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 6790 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1837 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.6 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 23 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 2521 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 1077171104 Equivalent to 64 /8s, 52 /16s and 83 /24s ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 62464-63487, 64198-64296, 393216-399260 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 53/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 57/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 199126 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 95113 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 2.09 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 195494 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 115857 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 25706 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 7.60 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 11495 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 3554 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 4.1 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 28 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 7682 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 715951232 Equivalent to 42 /8s, 172 /16s and 140 /24s RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 61952-62463, 64396-64495 196608-210331 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 94830 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 21899 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.33 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 96211 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 41976 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 7882 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 12.21 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 2183 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1485 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.8 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 30 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 5427 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 173176064 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 82 /16s and 117 /24s LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 61440-61951, 64099-64197, 262144-270748 + ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 20027 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 4219 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.75 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 25587 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 9058 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1229 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 20.82 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 420 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 241 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.4 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 21 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 500 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 102763264 Equivalent to 6 /8s, 32 /16s and 11 /24s AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-328703 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 7545 4654 515 521 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4635 4192 74 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Rese 45899 2989 1717 114 VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp, VN 7552 2969 1151 89 VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Group, VN 4766 2824 11130 770 KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom, KR 9829 2748 1496 551 BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone, IN 9808 2480 8699 26 CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication 9394 2410 4907 31 CTTNET China TieTong Telecommunications 17974 2257 968 50 TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indo 4755 2142 438 176 TATACOMM-AS TATA Communications formerl Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6327 3506 1326 91 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc., CA 11492 3478 224 610 CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC., US 22773 3303 2980 175 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communi 16509 2609 5246 972 AMAZON-02 - Amazon.com, Inc., US 16625 2182 1220 1678 AKAMAI-AS - Akamai Technologies, Inc., 20115 2150 2752 535 CHARTER-20115 - Charter Communications, 18566 2145 405 108 MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath Corporation, US 30036 2090 349 129 MEDIACOM-ENTERPRISE-BUSINESS - Mediacom 5650 2087 3074 1462 FRONTIER-FRTR - Frontier Communications 209 2081 5079 596 CENTURYLINK-US-LEGACY-QWEST - CenturyLi Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 12479 5206 1628 138 UNI2-AS, ES 39891 3778 203 20 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 8551 3031 378 43 BEZEQ-INTERNATIONAL-AS Bezeqint Interne 20940 2606 576 1924 AKAMAI-ASN1, US 12389 2225 2220 624 ROSTELECOM-AS, RU 34984 2032 336 534 TELLCOM-AS, TR 9121 1973 1691 17 TTNET, TR 13188 1604 100 38 TRIOLAN, UA 8402 1294 544 18 CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom", RU 6849 1218 355 21 UKRTELNET, UA Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 5464 3320 599 Uninet S.A. de C.V., MX 10620 3145 476 898 Telmex Colombia S.A., CO 11830 2678 371 71 Instituto Costarricense de Electricidad 6503 1662 449 54 Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V., MX 7303 1435 961 220 Telecom Argentina S.A., AR 28573 1186 2241 179 CLARO S.A., BR 6147 1120 377 29 Telefonica del Peru S.A.A., PE 3816 1023 510 110 COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S.A. ESP, C 11172 943 145 69 Alestra, S. de R.L. de C.V., MX 13999 924 536 267 Mega Cable, S.A. de C.V., MX Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 24863 1163 393 24 LINKdotNET-AS, EG 37611 897 107 9 Afrihost, ZA 36903 796 400 142 MT-MPLS, MA 36992 783 1411 44 ETISALAT-MISR, EG 24835 683 634 21 RAYA-AS, EG 8452 636 1731 19 TE-AS TE-AS, EG 29571 474 70 12 ORANGE-COTE-IVOIRE, CI 37492 459 470 57 ORANGE-, TN 37342 421 32 1 MOVITEL, MZ 15399 415 45 11 WANANCHI-, KE Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 5464 3320 599 Uninet S.A. de C.V., MX 12479 5206 1628 138 UNI2-AS, ES 7545 4654 515 521 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4635 4192 74 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Rese 39891 3778 203 20 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 6327 3506 1326 91 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc., CA 11492 3478 224 610 CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC., US 22773 3303 2980 175 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communi 10620 3145 476 898 Telmex Colombia S.A., CO 8551 3031 378 43 BEZEQ-INTERNATIONAL-AS Bezeqint Interne Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 12479 5206 5068 UNI2-AS, ES 4538 4635 4561 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Net 7545 4654 4133 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 39891 3778 3758 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 6327 3506 3415 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc., CA 22773 3303 3128 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communications 8551 3031 2988 BEZEQ-INTERNATIONAL-AS Bezeqint Internet Backbo 7552 2969 2880 VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Group, VN 45899 2989 2875 VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp, VN 11492 3478 2868 CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC., US Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 230105 UNALLOCATED 38.110.79.0/24 23015 CMC180-TOR-AS - Cambridge Merc 266842 UNALLOCATED 45.238.156.0/22 265680 HNTELCO S.A, HN 65534 PRIVATE 46.46.17.0/24 15638 UTL Ussuriysk, RU 65534 PRIVATE 46.46.32.0/21 15638 UTL Ussuriysk, RU 65001 PRIVATE 46.237.40.0/21 13118 ASN-YARTELECOM PJSC Rostelecom 65534 PRIVATE 80.93.96.0/21 15638 UTL Ussuriysk, RU 65534 PRIVATE 93.88.216.0/22 15638 UTL Ussuriysk, RU 65534 PRIVATE 93.88.220.0/24 15638 UTL Ussuriysk, RU 65599 UNALLOCATED 103.14.27.0/24 134813 CYBERCOMM-BD Cyber Communicati 4200058511 PRIVATE 103.111.177.0/24 137522 OERL-AS-AP Origin Energy Retai Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Prefixes from private and non-routed address space (Global) ----------------------------------------------------------- Prefix Origin AS Description 198.18.1.19/32 7497 CSTNET-AS-AP Computer Network Information Cente Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-dsua Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 27.100.7.0/24 56096 UNKNOWN 41.76.136.0/22 37500 -Reserved AS-, ZZ 41.76.140.0/22 37500 -Reserved AS-, ZZ 41.78.92.0/22 14988 BTC-GATE1, BW 41.78.180.0/23 37265 -Reserved AS-, ZZ 43.255.80.0/24 36351 SOFTLAYER - SoftLayer Technologies Inc., US 43.255.82.0/24 36351 SOFTLAYER - SoftLayer Technologies Inc., US 43.255.83.0/24 36351 SOFTLAYER - SoftLayer Technologies Inc., US 45.121.32.0/22 134356 UNKNOWN 45.124.164.0/22 38803 GTELECOM-AUSTRALIA Gtelecom-AUSTRALIA, AU Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:12 /9:11 /10:36 /11:99 /12:291 /13:568 /14:1123 /15:1908 /16:13344 /17:7885 /18:13872 /19:25505 /20:39537 /21:46055 /22:90911 /23:74341 /24:411929 /25:824 /26:655 /27:634 /28:32 /29:19 /30:9 /31:2 /32:190 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 12479 4059 5206 UNI2-AS, ES 6327 3270 3506 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc., CA 39891 2946 3778 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 11492 2764 3478 CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC., US 22773 2543 3303 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communications 8551 2487 3031 BEZEQ-INTERNATIONAL-AS Bezeqint Internet Backbo 18566 2040 2145 MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath Corporation, US 11830 2023 2678 Instituto Costarricense de Electricidad y Telec 30036 1839 2090 MEDIACOM-ENTERPRISE-BUSINESS - Mediacom Communi 5650 1761 2087 FRONTIER-FRTR - Frontier Communications of Amer Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:1628 2:882 4:18 5:2741 6:43 7:1 8:1151 12:1880 13:302 14:1881 15:35 16:3 17:206 18:57 20:48 23:2542 24:2418 25:2 27:2549 31:2012 32:92 35:31 36:534 37:2977 38:1586 39:284 40:120 41:3078 42:730 43:1995 44:139 45:6374 46:3059 47:244 49:1325 50:1077 51:318 52:1103 54:363 55:1 56:6 57:41 58:1698 59:1072 60:457 61:2105 62:1941 63:1809 64:5066 65:2180 66:4789 67:2685 68:1154 69:3413 70:1145 71:601 72:2261 74:2725 75:412 76:526 77:1712 78:1713 79:2208 80:1608 81:1416 82:1060 83:822 84:1063 85:2155 86:561 87:1514 88:1007 89:2427 90:210 91:6490 92:1254 93:2352 94:2389 95:3148 96:905 97:347 98:942 99:169 100:88 101:1161 102:313 103:19497 104:3561 105:243 106:890 107:1834 108:705 109:3452 110:1635 111:1851 112:1408 113:1332 114:1142 115:1717 116:1610 117:1894 118:2210 119:1680 120:1126 121:1022 122:2353 123:1619 124:1439 125:1954 128:1207 129:688 130:520 131:1627 132:716 133:193 134:1043 135:232 136:540 137:672 138:1933 139:774 140:573 141:762 142:799 143:1009 144:848 145:503 146:1246 147:780 148:1698 149:776 150:800 151:989 152:920 153:325 154:2291 155:967 156:1632 157:851 158:657 159:1889 160:1483 161:897 162:2669 163:769 164:1126 165:1589 166:454 167:1356 168:3176 169:869 170:3995 171:499 172:1072 173:2133 174:990 175:873 176:2216 177:4059 178:2525 179:1324 180:2092 181:2370 182:2626 183:1334 184:1153 185:14445 186:3678 187:2527 188:2958 189:2075 190:8312 191:1414 192:9982 193:6452 194:5301 195:4033 196:3013 197:1759 198:5684 199:5977 200:7509 201:5000 202:10209 203:10226 204:4618 205:3015 206:3279 207:3271 208:3933 209:4193 210:3917 211:2027 212:3078 213:2813 214:1069 215:53 216:6021 217:2187 218:874 219:579 220:1832 221:999 222:976 223:1409 End of report

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Extending network over a dry pair
by Nick Bogle 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

A quick question for you guys; If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones) to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps isn't cutting it anymore. Unfortunately it's a research site on a federally protected wildlife preserve so we can't run any new infrastructure (fiber etc) and it isn't in a geographical place where point to point wireless is practical. We were thinking there is some sort of network extender that uses some form of DSL for higher bandwidth capacity. Any suggestions?

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Levle3's IRR db
by John Von Essen 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Whats the best way to get in contact with Level3 to make an IRR change... if your not a Level3 customer? I tried emailing rr(a)level3.net but that bounces back as an unmonitored mailbox. There are dup IRR entries in Level3's db for my prefixes (legacy from a carrier I used over 10 years ago). My prefixes are in Arin's IRR and I would like that to be the only source. -John

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PCH BGP Collector Data - Contact
by Lars Prehn 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Hi everyone, I'm planning to download a significant amount of PCH's available MRT data. Is there anyone that could forward me (maybe off-list) contact information for one of the current maintainers? Thanks in advance! Best regards, Lars

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Unsolicited LinkedIn requests
by Alfie Pates 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Hi folks, I'm not going to name-and-shame, but I just got a LinkedIn connection request completely out of the blue from somebody with the comment "Greetings from another NANOG user!" I didn't recognise the name, and a quick search of my email history suggests we haven't interacted before. Please don't do this: It's not very polite. ~A

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Enterprise GPON / Zhone Questions
by Nick Bogle 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

Hello fellow NANOG members :) Let me start with a little bit of background, my day job is a Network Engineer for a local university where we have primarily a Cisco environment from phones to switching to routing, etc. Before my time, we hired a contractor to design a GPON LAN system for a new building as a cost saving measure (though I am not sure how successful that was). Either way, the contractor is about to hand the system off to us, and we have gone through the training and such, and I feel confident in my ability to manage the system, but we have a few questions that the manufacturer of our equipment and our contractor didn't really want to answer. We are currently using a Dasan Zhone MXK-F1419 with several different downstream ONT models (all Zhone). -We would like to consider use of 3rd party GPON B+ Optics on the linecards to add redundancy to the splitter (as the cost of 1st party are too high). Does anyone have experience with 3rd party vendors/compatibility/stability issues? We were told they theoretically should work and just throw a log event, but it hasn't been tested. If so, what vendors would you recommend? So far all we've really seen are Ubiquiti and Fiberstore optics. -As GPON is a standard itself, I'm aware interoperability between OLT and ONT vendors is heavily limited.. Does anyone have any experience using say, Zhone ONT's with a different model OLT, or Zhone ONT's with a different model OLT? I've heard word that Zhone ONT's may be able to work with Nokia OLT's but it's technically not supported. -We've already experienced some pretty big stability issues (have replaced 1 line card 5 times..), our contractor is saying it's just because we were a pretty early adopter of this line and that they've fixed it and fixed internal policies to add additional QA and testing before shipping to customers. Does anyone have any experience with working with Zhone and their overall stability of components? - Any other thoughts/gotchas/advice for deploying a GPON environment in a corporate LAN? (or about deploying a Zhone solution) It's pretty service provider oriented, and is incredible noticeable in the CLI. -Is anyone familiar with Zhone CLI? The apparent lack of any "show" configuration commands is infuriating. Feel free to contact me offlist if you have any pertinent info that you don't want on the list. Thanks, Nick Bogle nick(a)bogle.se

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Looking for Telecom Lawyer
by Travis Garrison 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

We are looking for a Telecom Lawyer to help us be a CLEC in the Arkansas, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and Oklahoma areas. Also we are looking to setup agreements for peering, transport and resell for ATT and CenturyLink in the same areas and Missouri. We are already a CLEC in Missouri. Thank you Travis

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