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Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design
by Skeeve Stevens 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

I like this take on it... thanks David. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; Twitter: eintellego <https://twitter.com/eintellego> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:27 AM, David Barak <thegameiam(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:38 AM, Skeeve Stevens < > skeeve+nanog(a)eintellegonetworks.com> wrote: > > > > >Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said.... but > to > clarify: > > >1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network > design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible.... > > >2) If I design some amazing solutions... am I able to claim IP. > > It is worth differentiating between the design itself and the > documentation of said design. The latter is clearly and totally IP, and > you could present that to the customer as "theirs": theirs and not yours - > that is, you would use different templates, naming conventions, etc. if you > created from whole cloth a similar design for a different customer in a > similar situation. They may be attempting to make sure that their network > documents don't show up as examples or other presentations for other > customers. > > As an example, an architecture document or a network assessment would be > covered by copyright law, and as such could be assigned to the author, the > company which created it, or could be "work-for-hire" and assigned to the > hiring company, depending on the contract in question. > > As to an amazing design solution, the USPTO has rules for that - you could > patent your design, but in our line of work that'd be a high bar given > prior art. > > David Barak > Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise: > http://www.cdbaby.com/all/thefranchise > <http://www.listentothefranchise.com/> > > <http://www.listentothefranchise.com/> > > >

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gmail spam help
by Alex Rubenstein 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world -> gmail email issue, where email is being considering spam by gmail erroneously? Thanks.

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Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design
by Brandon Butterworth 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

> Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said.... but to > clarify: > > 1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network > design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible.... I think they mean "we don't want you coming back and trying to make any claim on us for anything we may do with the work you did for us" that may mean something like they extend it or roll out some more to the same design or start selling it as part of a system to their customers There's been legal cases with architects designing a store building for a chain and the chain then reusing the desing for more sites. I've not heard of it for networks and your customer wants to keep it that way. > 2) If I design some amazing solutions... am I able to claim IP. Doesn't matter but if you did they want the rights to it already brandon

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Level3 routing issues today?
by Nick Ellermann 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

Has anyone else having issues with Level3 routing traffic to the Godaddy ASN? Since about 1PM Eastern today we have had numerous customers claiming their internet was down, when it has only been a few websites they couldn't reach. It's been up and down on My FiOS link some today as well. But right Verizon seems fine they are hitting Qwest before Godaddy for where I live in VA. >From our network. (AS30259) we are going out (AS3356) and for the most part we reach our peering router in Northern Va, the we see 4.34.191.254 before time outs forever. Could this be a regional Level3 issues? Anyone from Level3 or GoDaddy that could comment? We have had an open Level3 ticket since about 4PM Eastern. Sincerely, Nick Ellermann - CTO & VP Cloud Services BroadAspect E: nellermann(a)broadaspect.com<mailto:nellermann@broadaspect.com> P: 703-297-4639 F: 703-996-4443 THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.

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MultiMode Fiber Connectivity... (850nm) Power Question
by Faisal Imtiaz 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

Hello, I was looking for feedback on the following question:- When connecting two MM SFP/SFP+/XFP 's together...(short range). What should be the best practice receive power range ? Is it true that if the rx power is higher than (x?) then it shortens the life of the optics ? (assumption being made here is that MAX Rx Power is not being exceed as per the spec sheets of the optics) Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support(a)Snappytelecom.net

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Call for Presentations - CHI-NOG 05
by Tom Kacprzynski 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

*Call for Presentations* CHI-NOG 05 (Chicago Network Operators Group) May 14th 2015, Chicago, IL The Chicago Network Operators Group (CHI-NOG) is a vendor neutral organization of the networking industry. Our goal is to create a regional community of network professionals by presenting the latest technology trends, enabling collaboration, providing networking opportunities and offering certification advice. CHI-NOG will be hosting its first full-day conference on May 14th. For more information please see http://chinog.org. The CHI-NOG Program Committee is seeking proposals for presentations on relevant networking technologies with a focus on the following topics: * Network Automation * Interconnection/Peering/Cloud Exchanges * Low Latency Networks * Network Security * Internet Monitoring * Advanced BGP/MPLS Technologies * Software Define Networking * Cloud Networking Technologies * Network Operation * Networking Research and Reach Infrastructure * Open Source Networking Tools * Industry Certification *Session Format* Each presentation is 30 minutes, which includes a question and answer session. The duration can be extended per individual request to 60 minutes and will be considered by the program committee. Presentations should not contain any marketing material and should avoid discussion of commercial products but rather focus on the underlying technology. *Key Dates* * Call for Presentations ------------------------------------------------ 2/11/15 * Presentation Abstract Submission Deadline ------------------- 3/11/15 * Abstract Selection ---------------------------------------------------- 3/18/15 * Presentation Full Slides Submission Deadline ----------------- 4/15/15 * Final Selection --------------------------------------------------------- 4/29/15 * Conference ------------------------------------------------------------- 5/14/15 *Submission* Please submit presentation’s abstract proposal by filling out the submission form (http://chinog.org/meetings/chi-nog-05/abstract-submission/ ). Once your presentation is selected please provide the program committee with your photo and a short bio for web publication. The program committee is looking forward to your submission and attendance at the conference.

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Comcast New England dropped for 5-15 min? Anyone
by Andrey Khomyakov 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

Hey, anyone had problems just now? My team and I at homes lost internet access for about 10 min. I also had many sites drop off. Still digging, but maybe trouble upstream? I'm in 50.133.128.0/17 at home. --Andrey

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Comcast Static IP Changed With New Modem?
by Justin Krejci 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

Has anyone run into the situation where their static IP address from Comcast (on the business class cable modem Internet service) was changed when the modem was replaced? We have a remote site that uses Comcast as a backup Internet connection and when we went to use it recently our VPN tunnel would not establish. After working with the Comcast support group we discovered Comcast changed our static IP address. I am working through trying to figure out the when and the why with Comcast still and suspect it was changed when the modem was replaced back in December. The modem was replaced by Comcast as our previous modem was apparently EOL'ed. We're now setting up additional monitoring to verify the accessibility of our remote site via the Comcast connection so we don't have any future uh-ohs when we need to use our backup connection and it too is not fully functional. TIA, -Justin

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Any recommendations for FXS/FXO hardware with Cisco Unified CME
by Joel M Snyder 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

Folks: Since a lot of NSPs are also in the VoIP business, I was wondering if anyone has specific recommendations for low-density (2-8 ports) FXS/FXO hardware that they are using with Cisco PBX devices. (And I guess T1/E1 as well.) I know that typical IOS boxes can take modules/interfaces/whatever to handle FXS/FXO/T1/E1, but I'm trying to put some electrical distance between the Cisco PBX and the phone company to keep environmental problems (lightning, mostly) from blowing up the PBX. Cisco themselves seem to have cancelled almost all of their low-end hardware, leaving us with Sipura/Linksys. I have had good results with Audiocodes+Asterisk, but not in the Cisco PBX environment. Does anyone have boots-on-the-ground knowledge of good analog gateway choices that play very nicely with Cisco PBX? jms -- Joel M Snyder, 1404 East Lind Road, Tucson, AZ, 85719 Senior Partner, Opus One Phone: +1 520 324 0494 jms(a)Opus1.COM http://www.opus1.com/jms

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a hack for dealing with lack of control/data plane congruence at ix with rs
by Randy Bush 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ymbk-idr-rs-bfd/

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