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PCH INOC DBA
by Colin Bodor 15 Feb '15

15 Feb '15

Is this still in use? I am trying to setup an account but the account creation process seems broken. I may be late to the party but it looks like a really cool idea assuming people still use it and its active.

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Re: [OT] Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design
by William Herrin 15 Feb '15

15 Feb '15

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Skeeve Stevens < skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com> wrote: > My views are that if artistic endeavour is involved, then it is IP. > Architecture is certainly that... the look... but, the pipes, sewerage, > electricity, door locks... are not. They are products, bought of the shelf > and assembled. > Hi Skeeve, I think I see where you're getting hung up. The whole thing is intellectual property (IP). Including all of the parts. The pipes, the wires, the locks, all of it. But that doesn't necessarily mean that each part is protectable independent of the rest. Copyright law basically says that if there is any substantive creative input into a work's creation then the work is not only copyrightable, unless the author explicitly says different it's also copyrighted. Throw a paint filled balloon at a canvas and the resulting splatter is copyrighted. Consider: do more unforced choices, more optional choices, more creative choices go in to the production of a router configuration? Of course they do. One can be snobbish about whether that qualifies as art, but it's certainly intellectual property (IP). The catch here is that independent creation is proof against copyright violation. So if there really are only three ways to configure something, you will never successfully enforce the fact that your configuration used one of them. Just because your router configuration is copyrighted doesn't mean someone else can't create exactly the same configuration. And their version will carry a full copyright too. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin(a)dirtside.com bill(a)herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>

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FTTx Active-Ethernet Hardware
by Ray Soucy 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

One thing I'm personally interested in is the growth of municipal FTTx that's starting to happen around the US and possibly applying that model to highly rural areas (e.g. 10 mile long town with no side streets, existing utility polls, 250 or so homes) and doing a realistic cost analysis of what that would take. What options are out there for Active-Ethernet hardware. Ideally something that could handle G.8032 and 802.1ad in hardware for the distribution side (24 or 48-port SFP metro switch) and something inexpensive for the access side but still managed (e.g. a 4-port switch with an SFP uplink supporting Q-in-Q). I'm really looking for something cheap to keep costs down for a proof-of-concept. The stuff from Cisco and even Ciena is a bit more expensive than my target. -- Ray Patrick Soucy Network Engineer University of Maine System T: 207-561-3526 F: 207-561-3531 MaineREN, Maine's Research and Education Network www.maineren.net

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Trouble with USA to France Connectivty
by Joe Renwick 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

Hello, I have a client who hosts a web facing service on the west coast of the United States. He has a number of customers in France who have been reporting connectivity issues starting about ten days ago. He has been hosting with us for a number of years and this appears to be the first time he has had these issues. Anyone else having similar issues? Thanks for the time, -- Joe Renwick IP Network Consultant, CCIE #16465 GO NETFORWARD Inc. Mobile: 619-972-7793 For Emergency Support Email "emergency(a)gonetforward.com" and the on call engineer will be paged.

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Intellectual Property in Network Design
by Skeeve Stevens 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

Hi all, I have two perspectives I am trying to address with regard to network design and intellectual property. 1) The business who does the design - what are their rights? 2) The customer who asked for the rights from a consultant My personal thoughts are conflicting: - You create networks with standard protocols, configurations, etc... so it shouldn't be IP - But you can design things in interesting ways, with experience, skill, creativity.. maybe that should be IP? - But artwork are created with colors, paintbrushes, canvas... but the result is IP - A photographer takes a photo - it is IP - But how are 'how you do your Cisco/Juniper configs' possibly IP? - If I design a network one way for a customer and they want 'IP', does that mean I can't ever design a network like that again? What? I've seen a few telcos say that they own the IP related to the network design of their customers they deploy... which based on the above... feels uncomfortable... I'm really conflicted on this and wondering if anyone else has come across this situation. Perhaps any legal cases/precedent (note, I am not looking for legal advice :) If this email isn't appropriate for the list... sorry, and please feel free to respond off-line. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; Twitter: eintellego <https://twitter.com/eintellego> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

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Vancouver WA Comcast Outage?
by Aaron C. de Bruyn 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

We just lost a handful of customers in Vancouver WA on Comcast. Voice and data are out. Initial reports are saying a transformer blew down town. -A

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Seeking Yahoo Network Engineer
by Harrison Hung 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

Hi NANOG. It was suggested I try this list to contact a Yahoo Network Engineer to help me with this problem I'm seeing. I have around 200-300 of my Yahoo hosting customers experiencing this issue where http requests to their websites are timing out. For the last week, I've been trying to reach out to Yahoo Hosting for last week regarding timeouts for http requests from multiple datacenters. Can a Yahoo Network engineer contact me to assist on diagnosing this issue off list? Thanks. My email is at harrison.hung(a)gmail.com Thanks a bunch. Or other suggestions are welcome as to how I can escalate this issue with Yahoo. Regards, Harrison

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GTT NOC
by Ammar Zuberi 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

Hi all, Does anyone know of a direct phone number for someone with somewhat authority at GTT? Our prefix has been hijacked by a customer of theirs and we haven’t received any kind of response to our email and the guys on the phone seem to not speak very good English. Any ideas? Ammar.

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Verizon webmail support
by Eduardo Schoedler 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

Could anyone from Verizon webmail service contact me regarding access issues? Thanks in advance. -- Eduardo Schoedler

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

BGP Update Report Interval: 05-Feb-15 -to- 12-Feb-15 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS23752 260831 4.7% 1890.1 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 2 - AS27194 181162 3.3% 90581.0 -- REALLYFAST - ReallyFast.net,US 3 - AS9829 133632 2.4% 79.2 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone,IN 4 - AS61894 94291 1.7% 23572.8 -- FreeBSD Brasil LTDA,BR 5 - AS53563 57787 1.1% 5778.7 -- XPLUSONE - X Plus One Solutions, Inc.,US 6 - AS36947 54890 1.0% 262.6 -- ALGTEL-AS,DZ 7 - AS17974 48847 0.9% 17.2 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia,ID 8 - AS6147 47352 0.9% 27.0 -- Telefonica del Peru S.A.A.,PE 9 - AS8452 41602 0.8% 25.4 -- TE-AS TE-AS,EG 10 - AS25563 34077 0.6% 8519.2 -- WEBLAND-AS Webland AG, Autonomous System,CH 11 - AS55714 33537 0.6% 149.7 -- APNIC-FIBERLINK-PK Fiberlink Pvt.Ltd,PK 12 - AS8402 33235 0.6% 22.7 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom",RU 13 - AS51964 32478 0.6% 67.5 -- ORANGE-BUSINESS-SERVICES-IPSN-ASN Equant Inc.,FR 14 - AS10620 32159 0.6% 10.4 -- Telmex Colombia S.A.,CO 15 - AS3462 30874 0.6% 114.3 -- HINET Data Communication Business Group,TW 16 - AS42337 26508 0.5% 166.7 -- RESPINA-AS Respina Networks & Beyond PJSC,IR 17 - AS39891 23394 0.4% 9.5 -- ALJAWWALSTC-AS Saudi Telecom Company JSC,SA 18 - AS60725 23207 0.4% 1160.3 -- O3B-AS O3b Limited,JE 19 - AS14840 22433 0.4% 659.8 -- COMMCORP COMUNICACOES LTDA,BR 20 - AS23342 22142 0.4% 567.7 -- UNITEDLAYER - Unitedlayer, Inc.,US TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS27194 181162 3.3% 90581.0 -- REALLYFAST - ReallyFast.net,US 2 - AS61894 94291 1.7% 23572.8 -- FreeBSD Brasil LTDA,BR 3 - AS61039 16164 0.3% 16164.0 -- ZMZ OAO ZMZ,RU 4 - AS25563 34077 0.6% 8519.2 -- WEBLAND-AS Webland AG, Autonomous System,CH 5 - AS26264 7649 0.1% 7649.0 -- TVI-AS - TVI Inc,US 6 - AS197914 21790 0.4% 7263.3 -- STOCKHO-AS Stockho Hosting SARL,FR 7 - AS53563 57787 1.1% 5778.7 -- XPLUSONE - X Plus One Solutions, Inc.,US 8 - AS50104 4281 0.1% 4281.0 -- SATORP-AS SAUDI ARAMCO TOTAL Refining and Petrochemical Company,SA 9 - AS33721 4110 0.1% 4110.0 -- CCL-ASN2 - CARNIVAL CRUISE LINES,US 10 - AS62174 3419 0.1% 3419.0 -- INTERPAN-AS INTERPAN LTD.,BG 11 - AS33440 10610 0.2% 2652.5 -- WEBRULON-NETWORK - webRulon, LLC,US 12 - AS47680 10690 0.2% 2138.0 -- NHCS EOBO Limited,IE 13 - AS23752 260831 4.7% 1890.1 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 14 - AS6775 15016 0.3% 1877.0 -- BACKBONE_EHF_EUROPE Backbone ehf,CH 15 - AS20151 1662 0.0% 1662.0 -- MCW-12-01 - Mountain Computer Wizards, Inc.,US 16 - AS52355 3051 0.1% 1525.5 -- Jalasoft Corp.,BO 17 - AS45606 7627 0.1% 1525.4 -- 18 - AS198053 1507 0.0% 1507.0 -- AMTEL VECTRA S.A.,PL 19 - AS63269 1498 0.0% 1498.0 -- DYONYX - DYONYX L.P,US 20 - AS262149 3609 0.1% 1203.0 -- Sistemas Fratec S.A.,CR TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 202.70.88.0/21 129883 2.3% AS23752 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 2 - 202.70.64.0/21 128839 2.3% AS23752 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 3 - 177.10.158.0/24 94179 1.7% AS61894 -- FreeBSD Brasil LTDA,BR 4 - 162.246.92.0/22 90669 1.6% AS27194 -- REALLYFAST - ReallyFast.net,US 5 - 162.208.40.0/22 90493 1.6% AS27194 -- REALLYFAST - ReallyFast.net,US 6 - 199.38.164.0/23 57762 1.0% AS53563 -- XPLUSONE - X Plus One Solutions, Inc.,US 7 - 105.96.0.0/22 51057 0.9% AS36947 -- ALGTEL-AS,DZ 8 - 64.29.130.0/24 21919 0.4% AS23342 -- UNITEDLAYER - Unitedlayer, Inc.,US 9 - 130.0.192.0/21 21786 0.4% AS197914 -- STOCKHO-AS Stockho Hosting SARL,FR 10 - 91.235.169.0/24 16164 0.3% AS61039 -- ZMZ OAO ZMZ,RU 11 - 91.193.202.0/24 15108 0.3% AS42081 -- SPEEDY-NET-AS Speedy net EAD,BG 12 - 79.134.225.0/24 14962 0.3% AS6775 -- BACKBONE_EHF_EUROPE Backbone ehf,CH 13 - 162.249.183.0/24 11983 0.2% AS60725 -- O3B-AS O3b Limited,JE 14 - 92.43.216.0/21 11655 0.2% AS25563 -- WEBLAND-AS Webland AG, Autonomous System,CH 15 - 185.84.192.0/22 11381 0.2% AS25563 -- WEBLAND-AS Webland AG, Autonomous System,CH 16 - 42.83.48.0/20 11205 0.2% AS18135 -- BTV BTV Cable television,JP 17 - 185.26.155.0/24 11151 0.2% AS60725 -- O3B-AS O3b Limited,JE 18 - 178.174.96.0/19 11038 0.2% AS25563 -- WEBLAND-AS Webland AG, Autonomous System,CH 19 - 88.87.160.0/19 10655 0.2% AS47680 -- NHCS EOBO Limited,IE 20 - 192.58.232.0/24 9886 0.2% AS6629 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA,US Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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