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Re: list scraping by QualiSystems
by Scott Weeks 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

On 12/5/2013 2:52 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > :: QualiSystems team met you during the 2011 Nanog > :: Conference in Denver. > > No you didn't. --- iam(a)kjro.se wrote: From: Kelly John Rose <iam(a)kjro.se> You didn't quite play this one right. You need to see if you can use them to get a ticket to the next conference to meet them in person and discuss their proposals. Free ticket to the next Nanog conference. -------------------------------------------- I know you're just messing around, but the thing I/we get from NANOG is freely shared information; without worrying about hassle from anyone but our peers. And there's a LOT of that. :-) That's valuable. I want nothing more and I seek to keep it that way. I hate schwag. scott On 12/5/2013 2:52 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > :: QualiSystems team met you during the 2011 Nanog > :: Conference in Denver. > > No you didn't. This is completely false. In the > 15+ years I have been on the NANOG mailing list I > have *never* been able to afford to attend a NANOG > conference because it's really expensive from Hawaii. > > So, in addition to spamming, you're not telling the > truth. > > Warning to others reading. Don't scrape the list > for email addresses and if you get caught DON'T TELL > FALSE THINGS to folks! :-( > > scott > > > --- zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com wrote: > > From: Zohar Karni <zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com> > To: "surfer(a)mauigateway.com" <surfer(a)mauigateway.com> > CC: Revital Rabany-Levi <revital.r(a)qualisystems.com> > Subject: RE: Live Webinar: The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:42:32 +0000 > > Dear Mr. Weeks, > > QualiSystems team met you during the 2011 Nanog Conference in Denver. > > If you no longer wish to get updates from QualiSystems please let me know. > > Sorry if we disturbed you, > Zohar > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Weeks [mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 2:29 AM > To: Zohar Karni > Subject: Re: Live Webinar: The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function > > > > Where did you get my email address from? > > > --- Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com wrote: > > From: "Zohar karni" <Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com> > To: "Scott Weeks" <surfer(a)mauigateway.com> > Subject: Live Webinar: The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:07:24 +0000 > > LIVE WEBINAR > > The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function > > Dear Scott Weeks, > > QualiSystems invites you to attend a Web seminar: > > The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function > > Distinguished industry analyst Jim Metzler will deliver the first in a five part webinar series that describes the journey that IT organizations must take in order to go from the traditional highly manual, hardware centric IT operational model to an operational model that is highly automated and software centric. > This webinar will kick off the series by delving into the limitations of the current IT operational model and will discuss some of the factors that are forcing IT organizations to adopt a new operational model. > > Presenter: > Dr. Jim Metzler > Ashton, Metzler & Associates > > JOIN US > > Tuesday, > December 17, 2013 > > 9:00 am > Pacific Daylight Time > (San Francisco) > > 11:00 pm > Central Daylight Time (Chicago) > > 12:00 pm > Eastern Daylight Time > (New York) > > ( https://webex.rsvp1.com/s18c7fdYV8p5 ) > > Looking forward to meeting you online, > The QualiSystems Team > > ( http://www.qualisystems.rsvp1.com/s1897fdYV8p9 ) > > ( https://twitter.rsvp1.com/s1b07fdYV8pe ) > > ( http://www.facebook.rsvp1.com/s174fedYV8pk ) > > ( http://www.linkedin.rsvp1.com/s1b6bfdYV8pl ) > > ( https://google.rsvp1.com/s17fbedYV8pp ) > > ( http://www.youtube.rsvp1.com/s1be3fdYV8pr ) www.qualisystems.com ( http://www.qualisystems.rsvp1.com/s17efedYV8ps ) > | > > Contact Us ( http://www.qualisystems.rsvp1.com/s17c7edYV8pu ) > > This e-mail was sent to surfer(a)mauigateway.com by Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com. > Qualisystems, Inc, 20 Ha’Carmel St., Ganey-Tikva, 55900 If you no longer wish to receive commercial e-mail messages from Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com, please select the following link: Remove ( https://salesgenius.rsvp1.com/s16d7edYV8pI ). > > > >

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Cisco ScanSafe, aka Cisco Cloud Web Security
by Herro91 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Hi, I'm doing some research on the Cisco Cloud Web Security offering, also known as ScanSafe. Has anyone on the lists explored Cisco's ScanSafe SaaS offering, now called Cisco Cloud Web Security - as a means of providing protection in the cloud that would potentially negate the requirement to have a full tunnel (i.e. allow split tunneling) for teleworkers? Thanks!

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Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..
by Bryan Fields 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

On 12/4/13 5:20 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > I believe you will find that any carrier says "Nationwide means where we > have coverage, and unlimited means 'if you're on our towers'." TSRH. When I was at Alltel we discovered one client that was using his 3g card on a roaming partners network 24/7. As we could not bill based on this we only discovered it via a roaming settlement audit. I think at the time we were paying .35 cents per kb or something like that (might have been MOU based). Basically this customer was costing us $10-$20k per month and we had no way to track it back to them. I believe they fired the customers using the clause that nationwide is included, but you your home majority use location must be on our network. the lawyers had nicer way of saying it :) Wireless data interconnect (GRX/CRX) is like the most arcane and backwards peering there is. every single bit of use must be tracked and metered back to the user, and it makes the whole thing more expensive than it needs to be. It's like going to your users and demanding different payments based on the amount of data they receive from different ASN's. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net

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UCS + MegaRAID 9261 + ESXI clue
by Randy Bush 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

i am having scary logging from ESXI off a UCS-210-M2 with a MagaRAID 9261. if you have clue in this space, please contact me off list. thanks. [ esxi's lack of transparency to the hardware makes me crazy. i plan to migrate to kvm when i have spare time, ha ha, and a spare box to hold the vms while switching. ] randy

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CenturyLink Engineering contact?
by Greg Shepherd 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Is there someone on the list in CenturyLink Engineering involved in the pacific north west? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Greg

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list scraping by QualiSystems
by Scott Weeks 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

:: QualiSystems team met you during the 2011 Nanog :: Conference in Denver. No you didn't. This is completely false. In the 15+ years I have been on the NANOG mailing list I have *never* been able to afford to attend a NANOG conference because it's really expensive from Hawaii. So, in addition to spamming, you're not telling the truth. Warning to others reading. Don't scrape the list for email addresses and if you get caught DON'T TELL FALSE THINGS to folks! :-( scott --- zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com wrote: From: Zohar Karni <zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com> To: "surfer(a)mauigateway.com" <surfer(a)mauigateway.com> CC: Revital Rabany-Levi <revital.r(a)qualisystems.com> Subject: RE: Live Webinar: The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:42:32 +0000 Dear Mr. Weeks, QualiSystems team met you during the 2011 Nanog Conference in Denver. If you no longer wish to get updates from QualiSystems please let me know. Sorry if we disturbed you, Zohar -----Original Message----- From: Scott Weeks [mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 2:29 AM To: Zohar Karni Subject: Re: Live Webinar: The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function Where did you get my email address from? --- Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com wrote: From: "Zohar karni" <Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com> To: "Scott Weeks" <surfer(a)mauigateway.com> Subject: Live Webinar: The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:07:24 +0000 LIVE WEBINAR The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function Dear Scott Weeks, QualiSystems invites you to attend a Web seminar: The Mandate for a Highly Automated IT Function Distinguished industry analyst Jim Metzler will deliver the first in a five part webinar series that describes the journey that IT organizations must take in order to go from the traditional highly manual, hardware centric IT operational model to an operational model that is highly automated and software centric. This webinar will kick off the series by delving into the limitations of the current IT operational model and will discuss some of the factors that are forcing IT organizations to adopt a new operational model. Presenter: Dr. Jim Metzler Ashton, Metzler & Associates JOIN US Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:00 am Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) 11:00 pm Central Daylight Time (Chicago) 12:00 pm Eastern Daylight Time (New York) ( https://webex.rsvp1.com/s18c7fdYV8p5 ) Looking forward to meeting you online, The QualiSystems Team ( http://www.qualisystems.rsvp1.com/s1897fdYV8p9 ) ( https://twitter.rsvp1.com/s1b07fdYV8pe ) ( http://www.facebook.rsvp1.com/s174fedYV8pk ) ( http://www.linkedin.rsvp1.com/s1b6bfdYV8pl ) ( https://google.rsvp1.com/s17fbedYV8pp ) ( http://www.youtube.rsvp1.com/s1be3fdYV8pr ) www.qualisystems.com ( http://www.qualisystems.rsvp1.com/s17efedYV8ps ) | Contact Us ( http://www.qualisystems.rsvp1.com/s17c7edYV8pu ) This e-mail was sent to surfer(a)mauigateway.com by Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com. Qualisystems, Inc, 20 Ha’Carmel St., Ganey-Tikva, 55900 If you no longer wish to receive commercial e-mail messages from Zohar.k(a)qualisystems.com, please select the following link: Remove ( https://salesgenius.rsvp1.com/s16d7edYV8pI ).

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Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..
by Warren Bailey 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

All, I realize this is not exactly relevant to the usual topics on NANOG, but I thought this list was a decent place to ask a question related to cellular data usage limits. Have any of you experienced or been subjected to a "domestic data roaming policy"? I am a customer of a carrier who advertises "Unlimited Nationwide 4G data", but limits their customers to 50MB per month while traveling in an area they do not have coverage (Alaska, for example). I've never heard of such a policy in regards to a "Nationwide" plan.. I thought the entire idea of saying nationwide was to represent you were covering the ENTIRE NATION. Happy to receive replies on or off-list. Thanks! //warren

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Comcast DNS Issue?
by Childs, Aaron 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Good Afternoon, If there is a Comcast DNS Engineer on the list could you contact me off-list? We are experiencing an odd issue with 75.75.75.75. Thanks, Aaron [Description: Description: Description: logo-email] Aaron Childs, CCNA Associate Director, Networking Information Technology www.westfield.ma.edu/it<http://www.westfield.ma.edu/it> Please Note: new e-mail address - aaron(a)westfield.ma.edu<mailto:aaron@westfield.ma.edu>

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Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..
by Scott Weeks 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

--- jared(a)puck.nether.net wrote: From: Jared Mauch <jared(a)puck.nether.net> In "outlying" areas, such as Maine, Alaska, Hawaii, you're better off using a local telco. More likely to have better coverage. ---------------------------------------- Not in Hawaii. Hawaiian Telcom used to (still do?) use Sprint's cell network. scott

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Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO
by Mark Andrews 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

In message <CEC4C38B.3A8EB%Lee(a)asgard.org>, Lee Howard writes: > > > On 12/3/13 7:14 PM, "Mark Andrews" <marka(a)isc.org> wrote: > > > > >In message <529D9492.8020205(a)inblock.ru>, Nikolay Shopik writes: > >> On 03/12/13 02:54, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> > I have talked to my bean counters. We give out /48s to anyone who > >>wants them and we don't charge for IPv6 add > >> ress space. > >> > >> There is some ISP who afraid their users will be reselling their > >> connectivity to other users around. While I didin't see that in years > >> (probably last time in 2005) but still this exist in poor regions. > > > >And if they didn't resell it they probably wouldn't have a customer > >in the first place. Unless you offer "unlimited" plans the ISP > >isn't losing anything here. The bandwidth being used is being paid > >for. If it isn't the ISP needs to adjust the price points to cover > >their costs rather than hoping that people won't use all of the > >bandwidth they have purchased. > > It seems that, especially in the U.S., consumers don't like paying per-bit. > That was true with per-minute for voice, too. > > You are free to be unhappy about consumer behavior. Customers like to know what there bill will be at the end of each month and not suffer from bill shock. There are lots of ways to provide that. For instance I pay $85 for 120G per month + telephone with a rate limited connection if I go over that. I can pay more or less and change the amount of traffic I get before it becomes rate limited. I get warnings at various tigger points. I can see my total and daily usage of the month. In the US you still pay $XX for YYYG and then get rate limited. You call this unlimited and you don't know what YYY is and it changes from month to month. > >> Other than that, completely agree on /56y default and /48 on request, > >> but most ISPs here are give-out just single /64. > > > >Which is just plain stupid. > > You are also free to run your network as you choose. Getting upset about > how other people run their networks is not going to improve the world. Actually it is. Developers need to design for their products to work in the real world. Getting realistic minimums provided everywhere is useful. People need to be told when they are doing something that is bad for the general community and only supplying a single /64 is bad for the general community as it is outside the design choices that were made when developing IPv6. > Lee > > > -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka(a)isc.org

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