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NANOG 34 - Found
by Carol Wadsworth 15 May '05

15 May '05

Found: in BGP Analysis Tools BOF, an IBM power supply. NANOG Registration Desk

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IPSEC?
by Jay Stewart 15 May '05

15 May '05

Is there IPSec setup in for Nanog34 @ Seattle Westin? I can't connect to the L2TP VPN server via the instructions on the NANOG site. . . . Jay Stewart <-- In lounge watching Sonics and sipping a cold one. Zhonka Broadband

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[OT] Re: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?
by David Barak 15 May '05

15 May '05

--- Matthew Crocker <matthew(a)crocker.com> wrote: > > > On May 12, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Jeff Rosowski wrote: > > > > > > >> | So imagine a residential area all pulling > digital video over > >> wireless. > >> | Sound familiar? Ironically close to TV! (yet so > different) > >> > >> You mean like VoIP over dsl ? > >> > > > > I'm looking to setup DSL over VoIP over DSL next. > <smirk> > > > > I'm going for v.90 over VoIP over DSL. Hopefully > I'll be able to get > a 28.8k connection over my DSL line ;) One of the vendors from a previous NANOG (IIRC, it was Pluris, but don't quote me) had a shirt extolling the benefits of IP over MPLS over ATM over X.25 over Frame-Relay over MPLS over PPP over Ethernet over HDLC over SONET. everything old is new again :) David Barak Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise: http://www.listentothefranchise.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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NANOG 34 Streaming efforts...
by Joel Jaeggli 15 May '05

15 May '05

For NANOG34 May 15-17, the following streaming resources will be available. Merit Staff will be providing RealNetworks Streaming Media, begining at 0900 PDT Monday. The stream will be linked from the main conference page at: http://www.nanog.org/index.html The U of O videolab will be providing an ISMA MPEG-4 video and audio source via multicast at 250Kb/s, as well as a unicast http based audio stream. more information and links to both streams are available here: http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/nanog/nanog_34.html -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli Unix Consulting joelja(a)darkwing.uoregon.edu GPG Key Fingerprint: 5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2

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Reminder: PGP Key Signing at NANOG 34
by Joe Abley 15 May '05

15 May '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 People who plan to participate in key signing parties tomorrow should ideally submit their keys today some time. I'll be taking Monday's keyring snapshot (for the purposes of the paper fingerprint sheets) tomorrow morning. http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=2230 Tomorrow's parties will take place at: ~1045 (morning coffee break) ~1315 (end of lunch) ~1515 (afternoon coffee break) Feel very free to turn up early; you can usefully spend the time before the hexadecimal looking at photo id and introducing yourself to other PGP key signers. Begin forwarded message: > From: Joe Abley <Joe_Abley(a)isc.org> > Date: 13 May 2005 11:25:56 EDT > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: PGP Key Signing at NANOG 34 > > In Seattle, we are going to try to replace the single/long/tedious PGP > key-signing event on Monday evening (which invariably clashes with the > NSP-SEC BOF, or with dinner, or with sleep, or with accidental loss of > sobriety) with a series of small key-signing parties, held in the last > 10-15 minutes of every break on Monday and Tuesday. > > The thinking behind this will be described in a brief presentation on > Monday morning. More details can be found here: > > <http://www.nanog.org/pgp.abley.html> > > Briefly, if you would like to participate: > > 1. Paste your public key into the convenient form at > <http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=2230>, and > > 2. Visit the terminal room during one of the meeting breaks, armed > with a pen, photo ID and a trusted copy of your PGP key fingerprint. > > I'll be printing out one set of fingerprint sheets per day, so make > sure your key is submitted the day before the key signing party you > plan to attend. > > If you don't know much about PGP, and you'd like to participate, try > to plan to attend a key signing party on Monday in order to get a feel > for what is going on -- it should then be straightforward to hook up > with someone who can help you install/configure PGP software, and you > can then plan to attend one of the key-signing parties the following > day. > > I will attend all the parties, and will sign every key I can verify, > and will hence act as a trust-bridge between individual key signing > parties. It would be excellent if one or two other people who have > enthusiasm for useful PGP deployment could find the time to do the > same. Drop me a note off-list if you're interested in helping out. > > > Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCh2y1/f+PWOTbRPIRAh5pAKDI0o1+FBQiuaSI6KPrPeH07KioVgCcCyaf A4YQq4REO+h6JIKD3TvS/dI= =NpmR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: 'Call Before You Dig' Article: [Was Re: Cogent norther california fiber cut -- details?]
by Frank Coluccio 15 May '05

15 May '05

The URL that should have been shown in the preceding message: "Call Before You Dig" by Glenn Fox http://www.pobonline.com/CDA/ArticleInformation/Article/0,9169,100727,00.ht… Sorry about that. Frank A. Coluccio DTI Consulting Inc. 212-857-8150 Office 347-526-6788 Mobile ------ On Sat May 14 14:31 , Frank Coluccio sent: > >Pete, All, > >This may be slightly OT, but I thought it would be of interest to many here, just >the same: > >http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx\?msgid=21324247 > >Comments concerning live outage reporting from Sean Donelan and others who've >stayed on top of outage and D/R matters would be appreciated, either on list or >off. TIA. > >Frank A. Coluccio >DTI Consulting Inc. >212-857-8150 Office >347-526-6788 Mobile > >On Sat May 14 7:33 , Pete Templin sent: > >> >>John van Oppen wrote: >>> Anyone know anything about the Fiber cut that took Cogent's Seattle POP >>> out of commission at about 6 PM (PST) today? >> >>AboveNet reported a fiber cut at 1852PDT which they believe to be in the >>Sacramento area. Oddly enough, we saw a regular stream of ~5000 BGP >>update messages received every five minutes from 2230CDT to 0330CDT; >>I've asked if this was related to the fiber cut but haven't gotten a reply. >> >>pt > >

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Re: 'Call Before You Dig' Article
by Frank Coluccio 14 May '05

14 May '05

Thanks to Curtis, first. And Roy echoed my next question. This is an interesting example of how pending and future regulatory decisions that are based on assumptions of an earlier time are now intersecting with VoIP providers' existing capabilities and future "responsibilities." Frank ----- On Sat May 14 18:10 , Roy sent: > >Curtis Doty wrote: > >> >> This issue went national in March 2005 with the addition of a new N11 >> number for "One Call" notification. >> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-257293A1.pdf >> >> The new abbreviated number will be 811 and it looks like carriers are >> required to implement by April 2007--since it's been in the Federal >> Register for about a month now. >> http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/fedreg/a050413c.html >> >> ../C >> >But is it applicable to VOIP carriers? > >Roy Engehausen

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"Call Before You Dig" Article: [Was Re: Cogent norther california fiber cut -- details?]
by Frank Coluccio 14 May '05

14 May '05

Pete, All, This may be slightly OT, but I thought it would be of interest to many here, just the same: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21324247 Comments concerning live outage reporting from Sean Donelan and others who've stayed on top of outage and D/R matters would be appreciated, either on list or off. TIA. Frank A. Coluccio DTI Consulting Inc. 212-857-8150 Office 347-526-6788 Mobile On Sat May 14 7:33 , Pete Templin sent: > >John van Oppen wrote: >> Anyone know anything about the Fiber cut that took Cogent's Seattle POP >> out of commission at about 6 PM (PST) today? > >AboveNet reported a fiber cut at 1852PDT which they believe to be in the >Sacramento area. Oddly enough, we saw a regular stream of ~5000 BGP >update messages received every five minutes from 2230CDT to 0330CDT; >I've asked if this was related to the fiber cut but haven't gotten a reply. > >pt

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Cogent norther california fiber cut -- details?
by John van Oppen 14 May '05

14 May '05

Anyone know anything about the Fiber cut that took Cogent's Seattle POP out of commission at about 6 PM (PST) today? Their NOC seems a bit on the clueless side just saying there is no ETA and that the cut is somewhere in northern California. Apparently they have no backup into this market, as I am only receiving routes on my transit peer with them and have been since the cut. Good thing I am not single homed, but I feel sorry for those who are. John van Oppen PocketiNet Communications AS23265 See everyone in Seattle this weekend.

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swamp space reachability
by Gabriel Cain 13 May '05

13 May '05

Hi all. I have a bit of an issue. A while ago, I was issued 204.8.0.0/22 from ARIN (under ipv4 policy, 4.2.1.5 - the minimum allocation for multihomed networks). I've just gotten around to announcing it to migrate off of my PA space. In testing, I've determined that a number of networks are blackholing my traffic. I've started attempting to contact the various networks that appear to be blocking my traffic, but that's not going particularly fast. My question: Has anyone else who has received a small allocation from ARIN had this happen to them? If you'd like to look and see if you see my announcement, I'm announcing 204.8.0.0/22, as well as the four /24s that make it up (the deagg is temporary and to see if it helps, I'm well aware that aggregating is preferred). My AS is 30233. Thanks! Gabriel P.S. To those of you who will be at NANOG 34 this Sunday, I look forward to meeting you guys. -- Gabriel Cain www.dialupusa.net Senior Systems Administrator gabriel(a)dialupusa.net Dialup USA, Inc. 888-460-2286 ext 208 PGP fingerprint: C0B4 C6BF 13F5 69D1 3E6B CD7C D4C8 2EA4 2B08 1C6D The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will.

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