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RE: The Cidr Report
by Geoff Huston 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

Interestingly enough what Covad appears to be saying is: If we had a way to announce two things 1 - here are the advertisements for covering aggregates for Covad AND 2 - do not believe any more specifics for these address blocks, as they are NOT part of Covad's routing policy for these prefixes then we would not be seeing this unfortunate case of unauthorized route leakage being resolved in a way that seems to have unfortunate bgp implications in terms of more specifics appearing. So its an interesting question. How could Covad achieve a routing policy announcement of the form as stated in 2 above? regards, Geoff

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Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?
by John Curran 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

At 12:32 PM -0600 11/13/04, Stephen Sprunk wrote: >So you're claiming that any IPv6 PI applicant without your political connections to the IESG, ARIN, IANA, etc. can get a /32? I don't know exactly how many subnets/hosts ISC has, but I seriously doubt ISC could even get a PI /48 if you weren't buddies with the folks making allocation decisions. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The initial allocation size for IPv6 was set by the public policy process to be /32. Association with various Internet bodies has no effect (either way :-) on the received allocation size. From <http://www.arin.net/policy>: ... 6.5.1.2. Initial allocation size Organizations that meet the initial allocation criteria are eligible to receive a minimum allocation of /32. I have no public comment regarding the ULA proposal, but want to be clear that it is ARIN's goal to apply policies fairly and equitably to all existing and potential members of the Internet community. I am not aware of any complaints in this area in the history of the organization, and so I'm definitely interested from hearing from anyone who feels otherwise. /John John Curran Chair, American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQZZ7jYdtk0FNoZyOEQL7+gCgslGVJSFLsXAlBcgnTz6QmVD0vygAoIj0 RFK60W+OsZvN+4WCnqXP9zva =xTvs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: anycast roots
by Hank Nussbacher 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

And we, the users, appreciate the info being kept up to date. Thanks for the work, -Hank > > >bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > > > > > > > > for those nodes that choose to use root-servers.org as a > > > > publication method, ... > > > > > > > > > >as far as i know, the root-servers.org web site is 100% accurate, and has > > >100% participation amongst root server operators wrt publishing accurate > > >information. if bill knows otherwise, i'd like him to say so, and offer > > >specifics both as to what information is not present, and where it can be > > >found today, and where it can be found in the future. > > > > > >if bill is not actually aware of any missing information, i'd like him to > > >say so, since it's possible to infer from his comments here that the web > > >site is inaccurate or out-of-date in some way he's directly aware of, and > > >i just don't think that's true. > > >-- > > >Paul Vixie

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Any Sprint BGP people out there
by Todd Christell 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

Greetings, We have a customer that has Internet access through SBC. They lost their connection yesterday morning and are about ready to go out of business. We got additional fiber to their location and are now trying to announce their prefixes to Sprint. Of course they don't belong to us and wondering what I have to do to prove it is a legit request. A contact off list would be greatly appreciated. tlc Todd Christell Network Manager SpringNet www.springnet.net 417.831.8688 Key fingerprint = 4F26 A0B4 5AAD 7FCA 48DD 7F40 A57E 9235 5202 D508

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I want my own IPs
by Philip Lavine 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

I have recently been turned down by ARIN for an address block. I currently have 4 /24's from ISP's and would like IP independence. How do I convince ARIN to give me a block -- /20 I guess? The form I filled out does not make it easy. Philip __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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RE: The Cidr Report
by Roldan, Brad 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

[snip] > > ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description > > > > AS18566 751 6 745 99.2% CVAD Covad Communications [snip] > not to justify the expense, but perhaps covad is renumbering from one > block to another? Looking at their advertisments I see lots of /23 or /24 > blocks inside their larger covering routes... So either they deaggregated > to renumber more gracefully, or they forgot their prefix-list outbound to > williams and exodus ? > perhaps covad can explain? or silently cover up the 'mistake' (which is > acceptable as well...) I've been secretly hoping no one would notice Covad's ascension to the number one spot (which we've held for well over a month now ;). I actually made it through the last NANOG without a single mention of Covad's route bloat! There are no mistakes or excuses here. And there's definitely no renumbering going on. We were actually fully aggregated until an unfortunate incident this past May involving a distant service provider leaking our specifics. Gigs of traffic somehow vanished into Eastern Europe. The net result was deaggregation. It's unlikely we will aggregate down to less than 10 netblocks again. However, we do make every effort to aggregate where possible. Our superblocks are also being advertised, for those of you that want to filter our routes. Want to discuss further? Great. Call me or email me directly. Contact info is below. Think you can do it better? Even better. It turns out I'm hiring. :) Regards, Brad -- Covad Communications 408-434-2048 broldan(a)covad.com

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Rack + IP trading sites
by Nathan Allen Stratton 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

Anyone know of good sites where you can trade rack space and IP bandwidth? I am looking for rack space and IP in London and trade if for space and IP in one of our US datacenters. I found lots of sites for trading raw capacity, but can't seem to find a good site for trading space with IP. ><> Co Founder, CTO Nathan Stratton BroadVoice, Inc. nathan at robotics.net Talk IS Cheap http://www.robotics.net http://www.broadvoice.com

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Slightly OT: Flannery VS RSA
by Mike Lyon 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

I haven't heard much lately about Flannery. Have their been any implementations or benchmarks of the flannery Cayley-Purser algorithm in comparison to RSA in the real world? -Mike

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10G Traffic Generation
by Dale W. Carder 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

Forwarding this for a coworker: > From: David Devereaux-Weber <ddevereauxweber(a)gmail.com> > > I'm looking around for some computers to test 10 GB Ethernet links. > If you have a 10 GB tester, would you mind sending me a note about > what type of equipment, OS and Ethernet cards you used, and any other > relevant information you'd be willing to share? I'll summarize to the > list. > > Thanks! > > Dave Devereaux-Weber > ddevereauxweber(a)gmail.com > University of Wisconsin-Madison

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RE: I want my own IPs
by James Laszko 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

Good to know. I always though it was a /21 or /20. I'm pretty sure ARIN rules change with the weather, though. James Laszko Pipeline Communications, Inc. james(a)pcipros.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody@pch.net] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:50 AM To: James Laszko Cc: Philip Lavine; nanog Subject: RE: I want my own IPs On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, James Laszko wrote: > You've basically got to have around 16 /24's utilized before ARIN will > do anything for you. If you're multi-homed, however, the minimum allocation is a /22, not a /20. -Bill

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