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Re: Independent space from ARIN
by Lee Howard 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

My email address changed, so this didn't make it to the list yesterday. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:38:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Lee Howard <lee.howard(a)mci.com> To: E.B. Dreger <eddy+public+spam(a)noc.everquick.net> Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Independent space from ARIN ObDisclosure: I'm the Treasurer for ARIN. We audit our financials every year. Audits are done by a reputable firm that specializes in not-for-profit organizations, and who provides no other services to us. Last year's audit report is available on ARIN's web page. This year's audit is in the final stages; then it goes to the Finance Committee, then the Board of Trustees, then it gets posted to the web site. I also present the audit report at the first Members' Meeting following the acceptance of the report by the Board. Fringe benefits include tuition assistance and a vacation/sick pool, plus normal insurance, 401(k), etc. They are reasonably generous, but not unreasonably generous. ICANN Support is based on an agreement between the RIRs and ICANN. I note that in the process of ICANN Evolution and Reform, the Boards of the RIRs have been working with ICANN, and it's conceivable that this relationship may ultimately change. Information available on the web page of your friendly neighborhood RIR, the ASO, or ICANN. "Other Internet support" includes support for the RADB and the RFC Editor. We felt that supporting those activities was consistent with the mission of ARIN. If the membership disagrees, you can say so to the Board of Trustees, whose names and email addresses are on ARIN's web site, or you can elect new Trustees. ARIN's governance, including expenditures, is set up to provide oversight without disabling its effectiveness. It is assumed that ten thousand ASN holders (for instance) can't possibly all keep themselves well-informed on ARIN's day-to-day operations, nor should they have to. That's why we have a Chief Executive Officer, in whom I have great confidence, and an elected Board of Trustees. If you are dissatisfied with your representation, you can voice your dissatisfaction or you can vote (if you're a member). Speaking only for myself, I note that you have expressed dissatisfaction with ARIN's expenditures, and the Treasurer has personally responded. ARIN Members who want more details on ARIN's finances can email me personally or ask questions at the Members' Meeting. The next one is in the Fall in Chicago, being held jointly with NANOG. Please let me know what else I can do to make sure ARIN is operated in an open and responsible manner consistent with the public interest. Lee Howard Treasurer and Member of Board of Trustees ARIN On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, E.B. Dreger wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:24:41 +0000 (GMT) > From: E.B. Dreger <eddy+public+spam(a)noc.everquick.net> > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Independent space from ARIN > > > SJW> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:43:39 +0100 (BST) > SJW> From: Stephen J. Wilcox > > > SJW> Thats not _that_ large a turnover, $6m, and $2.3m for > SJW> salaries isnt that big. Altho I wonder what the $1m of > SJW> fringe benefits are! > > SJW> Not for profit simply means the company keeps hold of any > SJW> profits it makes and reinvests/reduces fees as a result. It > SJW> doesnt stop you paying senior staff large salaries tho as > SJW> thats wages overhead not profit... > > How true... many not-for-profit and non-profit organizations have > some very cherry financials, and are sitting much prettier than > many for-profit entities. > > I have an idea: > > Perhaps ARIN needs to explain each dollar in/out with the same > amount of detail and scrutiny involved with IP allocations. All > money spent needs to be extremely well documented; summaries are > insufficient. Show actual receipts, reports explaining the > necessity of the expenditures, and proof that the expenditures > were the most efficient choices. > > It seems many are curious about fringe benefits. That makes as > good of a starting point as any. "ICANN support" and "other > Internet support" also look interesting. > > Because ARIN is to serve the Internet community, perhaps it > should be controlled by such, with Internet-community reps voting > on each ARIN expenditure. One representative per ASN? Per > netblock? Per IP address would be the worst approach, with those > holding unjustified /8 blocks getting unfair voting clout. > > Domain registration service improved when a few competitors came > to town. That also is a { uniqueness & authority delegation } > service. Parallels? I think so... > > > Eddy > -- > Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division > Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building > Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence and [inter]national > Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) > From: A Trap <blacklist(a)brics.com> > To: blacklist(a)brics.com > Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. > > These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. > Do NOT send mail to <blacklist(a)brics.com>, or you are likely to > be blocked. >

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RE: FW: DNS Servers
by Ray Burkholder 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

To make a long story short, we suffered an inadvertent MS W2K AD DNS DoS. [Microsoft Windows 2000 Active Directory Domain Name Service Denial of Service] The company misconfigured their stuff and sent all their lookups our way with milliseconds between requests. We ended up blocking their address, and things returned to normal. Ray Burkholder > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Streufert [mailto:danstreufert@cox.net] > Sent: April 17, 2003 12:13 > To: Ray Burkholder > Cc: tgraf(a)icss.com > Subject: Re: FW: DNS Servers > > > Ray, > > What domain are you talking about? Can you describe in more > detail the problems you are seeing? Who hosts your domain name? > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray Burkholder [mailto:ray@oneunified.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:25 PM > > To: Todd Graf > > Subject: DNS Servers > > > > > > Is there anybody out there who is seeing that their DNS servers are > > going in and out of operation? We have 5 DNS servers, the > service, not > > the server, is available/not-available/available. Am I > imagining things > > or is something funky happening? > > > > Ray Burkholder > > > >

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RE: DS3 Coax..
by Mike (meuon) Harrison 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

Joel: > you could run media converters for it (www.transition.com is what I use). Thank you for all the WONDERFUL feedback. Just to answer some questions.. for those that are curious. - Why DS3/Coax? Because room in this POP (a ROHN Building) is really really tight, and they said if we brought it in Coax, and plugged almost directly in we could do it (semi-cheap, fast and easy). - We'll run 2 pair of coax, and 4/6 pair of fiber, but currently there is no room or approval to properly terminate fiber.. (a nice shelf, etc..) that may change on actual install.. using some small stand alone media converters (like the transitions) may allow us to do it. - Why do it? Because our property is contiguous with the Sprint POP next door.. and I need to say Mega-Kudos to Sprint for being willing to let a small ISP like us do this for a DS3 upstream and being decent to work with so far..

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Re: DS3 Coax..
by Dave Israel 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

Just out of curiosity: Why does it have to be DS3? Could another circuit type that can do at least 45 megs and reach at least 400 feet work? On 4/17/2003 at 11:36:34 -0400, Mike (meuon) Harrison said: > > > I need to run a DS3 across our parking lot.. Seriously. > > What's the max length I can use coax for (I know, gotta use a GID), > and what's the best brand/type of coax I can use? It'll be through > innerduct.. Looking for some real world answers from people that do > a LOT more of this than me.. (It might take 350-400 feet). > > >

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RE: DS3 Coax..
by Ejay Hire 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

I've had at around ~450 feet, but you have to change the LBO/Cable length in the CSU. -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:rs@seastrom.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:51 AM To: Mike (meuon) Harrison Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: DS3 Coax.. "Mike (meuon) Harrison" <meuon(a)highertech.net> writes: > I need to run a DS3 across our parking lot.. Seriously. > > What's the max length I can use coax for (I know, gotta use a GID), > and what's the best brand/type of coax I can use? It'll be through > innerduct.. Looking for some real world answers from people that do > a LOT more of this than me.. (It might take 350-400 feet). The textbook limit is 450' for 735 cable. I've had poor luck pushing the limit, and don't know offhand if using some other flavor of 75 ohm cable buys you anything. Were I in your position, I'd have glass pulled and use a coax to fiber media converter such as http://www6.adc.com/ecom/hier?NODE=OND68947, http://www.versitron.com/DS3T3.html, or http://www.rad-direct.com/DATASHEET/FOM-T3.pdf (the latter of which I've used personally) on each end. No, it's not the cheap way to do it, but it eliminates ground loops and other such nastiness that can ruin your whole day. ---Rob

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RE: Congrats to Alternet/UUNET/MFS/Worldcom/MCI IP Network Security Team
by McBurnett, Jim 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

I hate to be the downtroden one... But did you REALLY see the date of that news release.. ;-) Good Job folks..... Jim >-----Original Message----- >From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean@donelan.com] >Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:08 PM >To: nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Congrats to Alternet/UUNET/MFS/Worldcom/MCI IP >Network Security >Team > > > >In an April 1 press release. > >WorldCom's First Class Security Team In addition to the company awards, >four of WorldCom's principal security experts, Chris Morrow, network >security manager; Brian W. Gemberling, senior network security >specialist; >Blaine S. Christian, manager of traffic engineering and support and >Heather Skanks, network security specialist, were recognized >by the SANS >Institute as instrumental in successfully developing and executing >remediation plans for both the DDOS and worm attacks. > >http://global.mci.com/news/news2.xml?newsid=7350&mode=long&lang =en&width=530&root=/&langlinks=off

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Independent space from ARIN
by Dan Hollis 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

Would like to hear from anyone who purchased independent address space from ARIN, what issues you had (technical, or otherwise). -Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]

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Broadsoft, Sylantro softswitch info
by Christopher J. Wolff 17 Apr '03

17 Apr '03

Greetings, If anyone out there is using one of the above softswitches, please contact me off-list. I need some ballpark pricing and configuration info and the vendors can't turn it around fast enough. Thank you very much in advance. Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com email: chris(a)bblabs.com

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Congrats to Alternet/UUNET/MFS/Worldcom/MCI IP Network Security Team
by Sean Donelan 16 Apr '03

16 Apr '03

In an April 1 press release. WorldCom's First Class Security Team In addition to the company awards, four of WorldCom's principal security experts, Chris Morrow, network security manager; Brian W. Gemberling, senior network security specialist; Blaine S. Christian, manager of traffic engineering and support and Heather Skanks, network security specialist, were recognized by the SANS Institute as instrumental in successfully developing and executing remediation plans for both the DDOS and worm attacks. http://global.mci.com/news/news2.xml?newsid=7350&mode=long&lang=en&width=53…

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Verizon Mapping contact
by Gerald 16 Apr '03

16 Apr '03

I am working my way through the VZ phone channels, but if someone from Verizon who could help with T3 mapping in Manhattan could contact me off list, I would really appreciate it. I think I blew the poor phone techs mind when I asked him for help with that. :-) Thanks, Gerald

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