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IP Tracking Software Features
by Hitesh Patel 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I would like to take a chance and ask the NANOG community what features are they looking for in an IP Management Package? Since my last post NorthStar (url in my sig) has been progressing nicely and new features are being added daily. I will soon be to the point where I don't havy any feature requests left in the TODO file and would like to see what eveyone here thinks should be included in the package. Replies can be made off-list and I will condense whatever I get into one email after a couple of days. Thanks for the help! - -- +---------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Hitesh Patel | Lead Developer | | hitesh(a)presys.com | NorthStar | +---------------------------------+----------------------------+ | NorthStar: http://www.brownkid.net/NorthStar/ | | PGP Key: http://www.brownkid.net/pgpkey.asc | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GKRXCws8KqPtd2URAvuAAJ9J6qDm1B0PJErhIsqZ1PQyqaUlRwCglZqM cvTAWVvgQByihhRplnWwbWU= =CY1e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Cabling databases and wireless networks
by Eric Gauthier 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

> curious ... how did you implement this database ? Was it a commercial offering > or is it a 'robust' home grown solution? Today, its just a home-grown Oracle database with a web front-end for searches. My impression (though I'm not the DBA who built it / maintains it) is that there are tables for equipment with attributes like hostname, IP, subnet that it drives, physical location, # ports, etc., as well as location tables for each of our core wiring closets that contain patch panel informaiton, drop numbers, locations, etc. If you are looking for details, drop me a note offline and I'll forward it to our DBA. Having said all that, we are thinking about moving to a more commercial system so that we can tie the information into a ticket system, asset tracking system, etc. (i.e. Pinnacle, Remedy, etc). But, as with all things in todays market, "thinking" means "sitting around the lunch table and saying "that would be neat" and not "I have a budget". [Translation: sales droids, do NOT send inquiries because we have no money to spend on this nor am I authorized to approve any spending for this.] Eric :)

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new NAP in St. Louis?
by Scott Francis 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

A colleague who isn't subscribed to NANOG-post wanted me to forward this question. It seems that an outfit called 'LevelOne' has announced they are opening a NAP in St. Louis, but neither he nor I have heard of them before. Anybody on the list with prior experience, or even hearsay, that could confirm/deny or shed some additional light? thanks, -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui

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Cabling databases and wireless networks
by Eric Gauthier 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Hello, The institution that I work for is rolling out wireless services on our campus which spans about a 10x10 block area. We currently have a pretty robust cable management database for tracking and relating our wired runs, switch ports, subnets, and physical rooms. We're trying now to figure out how to handle and document our wireless deployments with the same type of information and relationships. The problem that I see is that our database is structured around a relationship hierarchy of Campus -> Building -> Floor -> Room, where each item is a sub category of the one before it with no knowledge of adjacencies. For example, the database might know that room 300 and room 301 are both on the 3rd floor, but it doesn't understand if they are next to each other nor if room 401 is above 301. This seems like it will become more and more important since, with wireless gear, we're looking at coverage areas instead of lit wall outlets. Has anyone else tackled this yet or is there any good software out there to track this? Thanks Eric :)

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old ticket-system from active.ch
by Dennis Thomas 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Hi, i'm searching for the old trouble-ticket-system of active.ch . It contained just two litte perl-scripts (ttview.pl and ttcreate.pl iirc) and some folders for storing the tickets. Anybody on-list that has the original files/archive from active.ch ? thanks, --dennis

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Hi
by Andy Li 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

How are you ? When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you I am in a harry, I promise you will love it!

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Re: Hi
by miquels＠cistron.nl 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

In article <cistron.02e401c1819c$d0071190$68a06840@aliw2k>, Andy Li <ali(a)cisco.com> wrote: >How are you ? Fine. >When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you >I am in a harry, I promise you will love it! I'm going to love it that you're in a Harry? Yuck. Mike. -- I used to drive a Heisenberg mobile but every time I looked at the speedometer - I got lost!

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RE: Hi
by Rowland, Alan D 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

One would hope a Cisco employee, or better yet, their employer would have enough clue to have whacked this mole 24 hours after it appeared let alone a week later. Guess not. Then perhaps guilty as charged? Just my 2¢ worth. -Al Humble, unofficial, unresearched, off-the-cuff, personal capacity, etc. --- -----Original Message----- From: measl(a)mfn.org [mailto:measl@mfn.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:25 PM To: ... Cc: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: Re: Hi On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, ... wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Andy Li wrote: > > How are you ? > > 'tis a sad, sad day when a cisco employee tries to infect the nanog ml > membership with a windoze virus. "Tries to infect" implies deliberate behaviour - obviously not the case here. I think you owe him an apology. > -Dan -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hi
by Andy Li 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

How are you ? When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you I am in a harry, I promise you will love it!

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FW: Hi
by Rowland, Alan D 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

Sorry. My sig wasn intended as pure humor, not as satire of the poster I resonded to. My apology for any implication otherwise. Apology especially to J.A. -Al -----Original Message----- From: Joel Gridley [mailto:jarmaug@callisma.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:01 PM To: measl(a)mfn.org; Rowland, Alan D Subject: RE: Hi As for being so sensitive about what is said in a public forum, I would look to my sigline. Imagine the problems that would result if everyone on the internet decided to warlord, and put a personal political statement - decidedly offensive to some - on each and every email they sent out. I for one understood what he meant. But then again, I look for the spirit of what a person says, instead of picking apart the words that they say it with. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of measl(a)mfn.org Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:54 PM To: Rowland, Alan D Cc: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: RE: Hi On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Rowland, Alan D wrote: > One would hope a Cisco employee, or better yet, their employer would have > enough clue to have whacked this mole 24 hours after it appeared let alone a > week later. Guess not. Then perhaps guilty as charged? Guilty for clue-impairment is a lot different than guilty of intent to spread. As for clue-impairment, I think everyone here agrees that Cisco should have this well filtered. If this was your intended statement, then yes, agreed. It was the implication of malice that I think was inappropriate, especially in a public forum. We [hopefully] return to our regularly scheduled... Hmmm..... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

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