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Re: Network Operations Luminaries?
by Brett Frankenberger 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

> As for the previous question in this thread, 12.1 that I'm currently > running treats "no red bgp subn route-m <name>" the same as "no red > bgp" No it doesn't. My test case was invalid. Nevermind ... -- Brett

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OSPF LSA filtering
by Rizkalla, Simon 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Does anyone have any idea how to filter out LSA updates between areas? I am using the Cisco 7204 VXR routers as ABRs and Enterasys routers as ASBRs. However, I do not want routes to be propagated from the backbone area to any other area. The limitation is that the Enterasys gear we are using does not support NSSAs. Regards, Simon Rizkalla

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To ask for the impossible......
by Paul Wouters 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

This being a very very very long shot. Does anyone know of a way to reach an interactive human being at uhm... *sobs loudly* Network Solutions...... Before anyone tells me I should ditch them and move away, that's exactly what I tried. I moved all our domains away from them, and they seem to have pseudo-randomly chosen to refuse transfers of some of them, and yes even ones that have been paid till 2003. Too tired for this bureaucratic fight.... Paul Wouters Xtended Internet -- Broerdijk 27 Postbus 170 Tel: 31-24-360 39 19 6523 GM Nijmegen 6500 AD Nijmegen Fax: 31-24-360 19 99 The Netherlands The Netherlands info(a)xtdnet.nl

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Re: USGS returns to the Internet
by jloiacon＠csc.com 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

The "law of unintended consequences" done struck USGS. I keep performance data on a NASA router at the USGS Eros Data Center (EDC). Large satellite based science data products are transferred continuously between EDC and NASA centers as well as principal investigator's throughout the world. My MRTG graph is flat-lined between Thursday PM and Sunday AM. Joe Valdis.Kletni eks(a)vt.edu To: wb8foz(a)nrk.com Sent by: cc: nanog(a)merit.edu (nanog list) owner-nanog@m Subject: Re: USGS returns to the Internet erit.edu 12/10/2001 12:16 PM On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 21:54:31 EST, David Lesher <wb8foz(a)nrk.com> said: > Unnamed Administration sources reported that Patrick Greenwell said: > > page server" of the DOI had access to the Indian trust data. My > > speculation would be that it does if it's Internet connected... > I can see no reason why a server full of personal data would be. Personally, given the amount and size of holes the court-appointed tiger team found, and the fact that *previous* security audits going back as far as 1989 (it appears) have found problems, I'd be surprised if they had gotten it *right* and segregated that server from the Internet. And of course, given the judge's wording, if the data server is on the Internet, then every DoI host that's on the Internet has access to it - and thus needs to have its plug pulled. Bet somebody's wishing that server had been on a private network with only several other dozen machines.... ;) -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech << Attachment Removed : C.DTF >>

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Re: USGS returns to the Internet
by David Lesher 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Unnamed Administration sources reported that Patrick Greenwell said: > > > > A judge *ordered* the DOI offline. I disagree. Read the order. <http://www.indiantrust.org/rulings/2001.12.05_TRO.pdf> It only talks about systems with Indian Trust data not the home page server. I think it's fair to assume a PHB panicked over [his,her] tail being locked up by His Honor; and ordered ALL servers down. YMMV. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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USGS returns to the Internet
by Sean Donelan 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

One of the sources I use to keep track of natural hazards (i.e. earthquakes) which may affect the net has been off the net for the last few days. The US Geological Survey (along with the rest of Department of Interior) Internet access was shutdown earlier this week. On December 8, Judge Lamberth modified his order allowing some services to be restored. First @Home and then the Department of the Interior, US Judges have disrupted more Internet users in the last couple of weeks than any other source. What next a judge riding a backhoe?

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AT&T/Alternet outage in Chicago?
by Wes Bachman 08 Dec '01

08 Dec '01

We were noticing some routing problems between AT&T (our provider) and alternet/uunet sites. This seems better now, but AT&T still has a master ticket open. Anyone seeing similar things, or have more information? Thanks, -Wes Bachman -- |=| Wesley A. Bachman / Iowa City, IA / <wbachman(a)leepfrog.com> |=| Developer, System Administrator, Leepfrog Technologies, Inc. PGP Public key available upon request. My opinions are my own. |=| ``...money is like us in time; it lies but can't stand up.'' -VU |=|

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weird whois entries for yahoo.com
by David Ulevitch 08 Dec '01

08 Dec '01

Hello nanog, This morning while troubleshooting some weird dns-poisoning issues I came across this: > [root@scooby parked]# whois yahoo.com(a)whois.crsnic.net > [whois.crsnic.net] > > Whois Server Version 1.3 > > Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered > with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net > for detailed information. > > YAHOO.COM.REALLY.NEEDS.TO.GET.A.CLUE.AT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG > YAHOO.COM.IS.TRYING.TO.STEAL.YAHOO.VU.HOW.ACIDULOUS.COM > YAHOO.COM.AINT.NOTHIN.COMPARED.TO.SAFESEARCH.COM > YAHOO.COM > > To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the > of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up > with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record. > >>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 05:13:13 EST <<< > > The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and > Registrars. > > [root@scooby parked]# compared to this: > [root@scooby parked]# whois yahoo.com(a)whois.networksolutions.com > [whois.networksolutions.com] > The Data in Network Solutions' WHOIS database is provided by Network > Solutions for information purposes, and to assist persons in obtaining > information about or related to a domain name registration record. > Network Solutions does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a > WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this Data only for lawful > purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this Data to: > (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass > unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail > (spam); or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes > that apply to Network Solutions (or its systems). Network Solutions > reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting > this query, you agree to abide by this policy. > > > Registrant: > Yahoo (YAHOO-DOM) > 701 First Avenue > Sunnyvale, CA 94089 > US > > Domain Name: YAHOO.COM > > Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: > Administrator, Domain (DA16065) domainadmin(a)YAHOO-INC.COM > Yahoo! Inc. > 701 First Avenue > Sunnyvale, CA 94089 > US > 1-408-530-5062 > Billing Contact: > Billing, Domain (DB28833) domainbilling(a)YAHOO-INC.COM > Yahoo! Inc. > 225 Broadway, 13th Floor > San Diego, CA 92101 > 1-408-731-3300 > > Record last updated on 05-Oct-2001. > Record expires on 20-Jan-2010. > Record created on 18-Jan-1995. > Database last updated on 8-Dec-2001 00:50:00 EST. > > Domain servers in listed order: > > NS1.SNV.YAHOO.COM 216.115.108.33 > NS2.SAN.YAHOO.COM 209.132.1.29 > NS3.EUROPE.YAHOO.COM 217.12.4.71 > NS4.DAL.YAHOO.COM 63.250.206.50 > NS5.DCX.YAHOO.COM 216.32.74.10 > > [root@scooby parked]# Is this just someone at yahoo having fun with whois, or a more serious problem? Thanks, David Ulevitch mailto:davidu@everydns.net EveryDNS.net http://www.everydns.net

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The Cidr Report
by CIDR Report 08 Dec '01

08 Dec '01

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Dec 7 23:00:00 PST 2001 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html for a daily update of this report. NEW: Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report-region.html for the regional version of this report. NEW: Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/autnums.html for a complete list of autonomous system number to name mappings as used by the CIDR-Report. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to GX Networks for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to CIDR Report <cidr-report(a)cisco.com>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 07Dec01 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 301101 104104 011201 104113 021201 104416 031201 104321 041201 104345 051201 104395 061201 104443 071201 104426 Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr.plot.html for a plot of the table history. Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 12122 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 7324 (4156 cidr, 3168 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 801 announced by AS701 Largest number of classful routes: 1352 announced by AS701 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 07Dec01 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS1221 1197 920 277 23.1% Telstra Pty Ltd AS4151 294 161 133 45.2% USDA AS577 314 193 121 38.5% Bell Advanced Communications Inc. AS16473 198 77 121 61.1% Bell South AS4755 226 141 85 37.6% Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonom AS2048 184 105 79 42.9% State of Louisiana AS1239 489 410 79 16.2% Sprint AS17557 155 78 77 49.7% Pakistan Telecom AS19632 87 11 76 87.4% Metropolis Intercom S.A. AS12302 107 31 76 71.0% MobiFon S.A. AS3464 161 96 65 40.4% Alabama SuperComputer Network AS2149 347 283 64 18.4% Performance Systems, Inc. AS4323 373 315 58 15.5% Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS16758 63 6 57 90.5% IKON Office Solutions AS4200 111 55 56 50.5% Apex Global Information Services, AS13999 68 14 54 79.4% Mega Cable S.A. de C.V. AS1 520 466 54 10.4% BBN Planet AS3908 310 257 53 17.1% Supernet, Inc. AS17561 115 64 51 44.3% Internet service provision to Wes AS376 123 73 50 40.7% Reseau Interordinateurs Scientiqu AS209 298 248 50 16.8% Qwest AS16814 65 18 47 72.3% NSS, S.A. AS15290 237 194 43 18.1% AT&T Canada IES AS11139 90 47 43 47.8% Cable & Wireless Dominica AS10620 64 21 43 67.2% TVCABLE BOGOTA AS10292 72 29 43 59.7% TELECOMMUNICATIONS OF JAMAICA AS5536 60 18 42 70.0% Internet Egypt Network AS5416 51 9 42 82.4% BATELCO-BH AS19834 56 14 42 75.0% NetForce, Inc. AS1267 68 26 42 61.8% Infostrada S.p.A. For the rest of the previous weeks gain information please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html 2) Weekly Delta Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report 3) Interesting aggregates Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report

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Re: Network Operations Luminaries?
by Steven M. Bellovin 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

In message <200112071652.fB7GqDQ07020(a)valen.gwi.net>, Fletcher E Kittredge writ es: > >On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:40:36 -0700 (MST) Pete Kruckenberg wrote: >> Who is/are the network operations equivalents of people like >> Peter Drucker and Jack Welch--people who are looked at not >> only has role models for operations success, but as >> luminaries in the industry for having established and >> educated the masses about best practices? > >My idiosyncratic, incomplete, personal list is: > > Steve Bellovin I appreciate the compliment, but I'm not an operations guy -- never was in the NOC sense, except for *tiny* networks, and for a fair number of years not even on security. I hang out on NANOG so that I can learn from everyone else. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb Full text of "Firewalls" book now at http://www.wilyhacker.com

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