December 2000 - Test - lists.nanog.org

RE: florida ix(en) facing south
by Roeland Meyer 22 Dec '00

22 Dec '00

> From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com] > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 9:59 AM > > > Keep in mind that all of those actions, including turning > up an interim > > facility, were voted on by the membership. It's not like a > MAE, where the > > operator can take action without the consent of the members. > > oh goodie! it's a social club like the linx. do the current > members get > to vote on who can be new members too? are there fun fun fun > membership > meetings with cookies? > > some of we more stupid and lazy operators like exchanges > which are run like > a business. having primary attention on the bottom line > often makes life > simpler. That also applies to root registries, like ICANN.

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Re: florida ix(en) facing south
by Deron J.Ringen 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Here is the official BellSouth company line. http://www.bellsouthcorp.com/proactive/documents/render/34382.vtml A lot of marketing hype. However some key points: - Planning for four POPs in south FL which will be fully messed via a DWDM core. - Only one POP will be for co-lo. - First phase will be ATM. Planning on offering Ethernet soon. - Will be carrier independent. Will not be tied to BellSouth, you can use any carrier to connect into a POP. ...djr... > > From: Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> > Date: 2000/12/21 Thu AM 08:49:15 EST > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: florida ix(en) facing south > > > i get rumors of one or more exchange points being built in south florida > where there may be good participation by latin and caribbean networks. > any good gossip, pointers, ...? any choices which are not carrier jails? > > randy > >

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Fiber cut?
by Joe Blanchard 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Anyone hear anything about a Fibercut (OC48) affecting XO.COM? Tracing route to cascara.uvic.ca [142.104.5.28] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 132.237.9.3 3 <10 ms <10 ms 16 ms us-ca-scl-border2-s12-0.rtr.concentric.net [207. 88.95.65] 4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms ge10-0.dist1.scl-ca.us.xo.com [64.220.2.66] 5 16 ms 16 ms 31 ms ge9-0.tran1.scl-ca.us.xo.com [64.220.0.49] 6 16 ms 94 ms 109 ms p0-0.tran1.pal-ca.us.xo.com [64.0.0.2] 7 <10 ms 15 ms <10 ms ge1-0.edge1.pal-ca.us.xo.com [64.220.0.21] 8 <10 ms <10 ms 16 ms 207.88.240.70 9 * * * Request timed out. Joe Blanchard Systems/Network Engineering Wyse Technologies, San Jose, CA

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ICQ down?
by Hank Nussbacher 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Anyone know what is the status with ICQ? No ability to connect to their servers at icq.mirabalis.com, icq.mirabalis.com, etc. Thanks, Hank

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Re: small device with IP address
by Mikael Abrahamsson 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, John A. Tamplin wrote: > The Dallas Semiconductor TINI board has 10baseT and a full TCP stack, and is > programmable in Java (512k flash for programs). It has a DHCP client and you > can easily write simple TCP servers for it (web etc servers are publicly > available). The cost of the board itself (which is physically a 72-pin SIMM > module) is $50, and then you will need a connector break-out board and an > AC power supply, which can all be had well under $50, so this should fit your > price range quite well. > > http://www.ibutton.com/TINI/ Thanks, this is close to what I need. Now I just need someone to package them up into a case, bundle a AC power supply and include them ready programmed, sell them for $100 and sell them in cases of 10. Any takers? :) -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike(a)swm.pp.se

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RIPE Whois RPSL Migration
by RIPE NCC 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

[ Apologies for duplicate mails ] RIPE Whois RPSL Migration The RIPE Database re-implementation project is nearing completion. A key feature of the new database is the implementation of RPSL, to replace the old RIPE-181 standard. RPSL is similar, but not identical, to RIPE-181. The RIPE NCC expects that many programs that use the RIPE Whois database will continue to operate properly without modification. However, some programs may have problems parsing the RPSL format, or be confused by differences in behaviour. We would like to ensure that the transition to RPSL is as easy as possible. Therefore, we are working with the RIPE community to provide resources you can use to check any programs or scripts that you have that use the RIPE Whois database. Please visit our Migration page for further information: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/rpsl/index.html This page will be updated regularly with the latest information. We will provide additional tools and information as they become available. The actual timeline of when the RPSL server will replace the existing RIPE-181 server will be decided at the RIPE-38 meeting. If you want input on when the change will occur, then you should either attend this meeting or post your comments on the RIPE DB mailing list. http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/current/ripe-38/index.html http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/index.html Regards, The RIPE Database Group. RIPE NCC

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Re: ICQ down?
by Hank Nussbacher 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

At 09:05 21/12/00 -0500, Ken Fischer wrote: Typo to the list. Spelled correctly to the pgm. -Hank >I don't use ICQ anymore, so I can't test it... >but make sure that you are going to the correct company >(try icq.mirabilis.com) > ^ >#whois mirabalis.com >Organization: > Simpson Thacher & Bartlett > 425 Lexington Avenue > New York, NY 10017 > US > > Registrar..: Register.com (http://www.register.com) > Domain Name: MIRABALIS.COM ><snip> > >#whois mirabilis.com >Domain Name: MIRABILIS.COM > >Registrant: > ICQ, Inc. > 22000 AOL Way > Dulles, VA 20166 > US ><snip> > >Best regards, > >-- >Ken Fischer, CCNA <kenf(a)junebug.org> >PGP Fingerprint: 9523 54B6 D67B BBFB 53B3 2F3B 7E81 0891 C495 CB50 > > >On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > > > > Anyone know what is the status with ICQ? No ability to connect to their > > servers at icq.mirabalis.com, icq.mirabalis.com, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > Hank > > > >

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RE: [OT] Re: Port scanning legal
by Roeland Meyer 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

The relevant parts show that Larry Sheldon is the scum-bag that posts private mail to public lists. Some have sent private email accusing me of spamming NANOG. I assure you that this is not the case. No, I didn't do BCC either. The following headers should prove that I had nothing to do with it and that I have been the victim of a prankster, named Larry Sheldon. I will consider further action after the holidays. I apologize to you all for Larry's inappropriate behavior. It wasn't me. Of course, I didn't get a NANOG copy of the re-broadcast message either. If Vladis hadn't sent me a copy of the original headers, I would never have known. -- ROELAND M.J. MEYER Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc. TEL: +001 925 373 3954 FAX: +001 925 373 9781 http://www.mhsc.com mailto: rmeyer(a)mhsc.com > From: Valdis.Kletnieks(a)vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 7:48 AM > Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu > [147.134.2.126]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id > A17965DE60 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:46:13 > -0500 (EST) > Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu (bluejay.creighton.edu > [147.134.2.20]) by mailjay.creighton.edu (8.9.3 > (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17601 for > <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:46:10 -0600 (CST) > Received: (from lsheldon@localhost) by bluejay.creighton.edu > (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) id IAA22185 for nanog(a)merit.edu; > Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:46:00 -0600 (CST) > Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu > [147.134.2.126]) by bluejay.creighton.edu (8.9.3 > (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20544 for > <lsheldon(a)bluejay.creighton.edu>; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:45:36 > -0600 (CST) Here is where it was recieved by Larry's host. Above this point was all Larry. > Received: from condor.mhsc.com (condor.lvrmr.mhsc.com > [199.108.175.226]) by mailjay.creighton.edu (8.9.3 > (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18345 for > <lsheldon(a)creighton.edu>; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:45:35 -0600 (CST) > Received: by condor.mhsc.com with Internet Mail Service > (5.5.2650.21) id <ZHMGC6PK>; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:40:33 -0800 > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:40:33 -0800 > From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer(a)mhsc.com> > Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Port scanning legal > Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu > To: "'Adam Rothschild'" <asr(a)latency.net>, Larry Sheldon > <lsheldon(a)creighton.edu> > Cc: tim(a)yocum.org

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FDDI to FE?
by Reid B. Fishler 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

Howdy all. We are about to install a new VXR, however it came to our attention that FDDI is not compatable with it at all. Unfortunately, we need to connect FDDI to this router. Has anyone seen a cheap switch or converter that has both FDDI and Fast Ethernet on it? I know I can do a 4700, but thats large, expensive and clunky...Any ideas? Reid Fishler Lightning.net

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RE: Port scanning legal
by Roeland Meyer 20 Dec '00

20 Dec '00

I've pinged IP addrs that I later found out were MIL addrs. Nothing happened. Duh! There are a LOT of IP addrs that aren't in the DNS. How is one to know? I don't know about you, but I flunked telepathy in High School and did worse in clarvoyance. In fact, psionics wasn't wasn't something I was generally good at. That's why I went into engineering. Could it be, that is why ping and traceroute were invented? The argument against port-scanning applies equally well to just about every diagnostic tool we use. Be careful what you wish for, we might all get stuck with it. Then, where would we be? > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Hollis [mailto:goemon@sasami.anime.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:46 AM > To: Shawn McMahon > Cc: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' > Subject: Re: Port scanning legal > > > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Shawn McMahon wrote: > > Better lock me up; I can't count the number of times I've nmap-ed > > somebody just to find out what OS they were using, either > for personal > > curiosity, or as part of an argument. > > Cool. Since you're obviously in the right, how about scanning some > U.S. military networks and letting us all know what OS they are using? > > If you like, I'll start an argument with you so you have the > justification > you need to portscan. > > -Dan > >

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