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Re: PRDB Retirement next Monday, May 8
by Steve Heimlich 02 May '95

02 May '95

Daniel, >does this mean that after May 8th European operators will have to submit >route objects to the RADB even though they have registered route objects >in the RIPE RR? If yes, how do we proceed to eliminate the need for this >double registration requirement? Let me give you the ANS perspective on this one: We hope to take RIPE RR registrations as authoritative for European operators, eliminating need for redundant registrations. This just seems to make sense, assuming that the RIPE registry is at least as valid a place from which to pull European route objects as the RADB. Almost certainly we will not be able to flash cut this on 5/8 (one thing at a time), but it's definitely part of the process. We'll do this by sucking routes out of radb.ra.net, but that should include the "latest" info mirrored with source:RIPE as I understand it. Steve

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MAE-WEST
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 02 May '95

02 May '95

Hi, The folks at AMES and I cabled up the MAE-WEST facilities there today and are waiting on MFS to enable the port so that the two parts of MAE-WEST will talk to each other. MCI is scheduled to come up early in the morning (03:00 ET! :) and Sprint to follow shortly there after. NET99, Alternet, ESnet, NSI, and the RA Route Server are already present. -- --bill

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PRDB Retirement next Monday, May 8
by Dale S. Johnson 02 May '95

02 May '95

What Networks Need to Do When the PRDB Is Retired On Monday, May 8, the Policy Routing Database (PRDB) will be turned off. The PRDB has been used to configure the NSFNET Backbone Service and ANSNET (AS690) since 1989. After May 8, configurations for the ANSNET backbone will be generated from the Routing Arbiter Database (RADB). The PRDB and the RADB have been running with parallel data for over a year. As of May 8, the last data from the PRDB will be transferred to the RADB, and the PRDB will be permanently retired. FROM NACRS TO ROUTE OBJECTS Starting 09:00 EST May 8, NACRs will no longer be accepted for AS690 configurations; the way to submit additions or changes of route announcements for AS690 will be to submit Route objects by e-mail to auto-dbm(a)ra.net. If you submit a NACR after 09:00 May 8, you will receive a reply that gives you a translation of that NACR into a Route object and explains how to mail that Route object to auto-dbm(a)ra.net for immediate inclusion in the RADB. For an overview of the RADB and more information about creating and submitting Route objects, see: http://www.ra.net (select Routing Arbiter from the Projects menu) ftp://ftp.ra.net/routing.arbiter/radb/OVERVIEW ftp://ftp.ra.net/routing.arbiter/radb/doc/how_to_register WILL YOU BE AUTHORIZED TO UPDATE THE RADB AFTER MAY 8? Under the old NACR/PRDB system, each AS maintained a list of "valid requestors" who could make routing changes for that AS. Under the new Route object/RADB system, each network has an Origin AS ("Home AS"); the individuals who can make routing changes for that AS's networks are listed in the Maintainer object for that AS. Initial versions of Maintainer objects were created from the PRDB "valid requestor" information on February 1, and many more Maintainer objects have been added to the RADB since then. Thus it is very likely that your authorization in the RADB has already been established. If you have successfully submitted a NACR since February 1, then you are already authorized to submit Route objects for that AS. Note, however, that if another organization has been submitting NACRs for you, that organization may no longer be authorized to do this under the RADB unless you specifically include e-mail addresses for that organization in your Maintainer object. Here is the breakdown of authorized submitters: Date Who Can Make Routing Changes ------ ------------------------------ Before Feb. 1 Any valid requester of any AS in the network's announcements ("aslist"), including the Primary AS Feb. 1 - May 8 Persons specified by the Maintainer objects of *either* the network's Primary AS or its Home AS After May 8 *Only* persons specified by the Maintainer object of the network's Home AS The e-mail addresses for people authorized to make changes for your network must be listed on separate MAIL-FROM lines in your Maintainer object. (A more elaborate system can be used after May 8.) To verify that your Maintainer object contains the correct information, enter a command such as the following: whois -h whois.ra.net MAINT-AS690 For more information on checking, submitting or updating Maintainer objects, see: http://www.ra.net (select Routing Arbiter from the Projects menu) ftp://ftp.ra.net/routing.arbiter/radb/doc/updating_maintainers If you have further questions about registering in the RADB, send e-mail to DB-admin(a)ra.net. --Dale Johnson Merit/RA

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Re: Has PSI been assigned network 1?
by Eric Kozowski 02 May '95

02 May '95

>You would think the words "Silicon Switch Processor" might >clue people in that the board in question has nice little >chips on it doing routing/switching, leaving the 68040 >free to process BGP updates etc. > >Unfortunately, the 68040 is unable to keep up in ugly >situations... Xyplex has a router card for their 9000 chassis that uses the 68060 and had BGP4 support in the alpha phase. We are looking at doing beta testing of this product. -- Eric Kozowski Structured Network Systems, Inc. kozowski(a)structured.net Better, Cheaper, Faster -- pick any two. (503)656-3530 Voice "Providing High Quality, Reliable Internet Service" (800)881-0962 Voice 56k to DS3

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Topics for the May 22-23 NANOG
by Susan R. Harris 02 May '95

02 May '95

Greetings - here's are the NANOG topics we've come up with so far. Are there other subjects you'd like to hear about? ------------------------------------------- --Symmetric routing in a multi-provider Internet --RA project update --NAP status reports --InterNIC registration procedures --Coordination issues for distributed routing registries --IP Provider Metrics WG update --RPS (Routing Policy System) WG update --ATM networking in Oregon --Route flapping analyses --IPv6 autoconfiguration: implications for network operators --New SNMP management capabilities in MRouteD --Overview of the Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit --GateD update ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Susan R. Harris Merit Network, Inc. srh(a)merit.edu Phone: (313) 936-2100 Fax: (313) 747-3185 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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AS690 routing policy changes
by Steve Heimlich 01 May '95

01 May '95

Folks, The final NSFnet configuration took place on Friday, 4/28. Starting this week and continuing over the course of the next few weeks, ANS will be migrating AS690 policy away from NSFnet policy and toward something new and improved. There may be some providers at interchange points who are still using AS 690 peer routers as route servers (e.g., to learn another provider's routes from us with no extra peering sessions needed). We expect to eliminate third party routing at interchange points early this month; this change will not affect connectivity with ANS, but may affect connectivity between other ASes. Those providers still in need of a route server should contact the Routing Arbiter (DB-admin(a)ra.net) to set up peering arrangements. As an import policy aid for peer providers at these interchange points, I have registered an AS macro object in the RADB. This macro is recursively defined (from the root identifier of "AS-ANS") and lists the ASes for which ANS provides transit. It's defined in such a way as to make "cold potato" routing easy to set up for those peers to whom we speak at multiple U.S. interchange points; those providers interested in doing mutual cold potato routing can send me a note. ANS would like to use corresponding AS macros registered by other providers to ease such a configuration. Content of this recursively defined macro can be examined using whois: whois -h whois.ra.net AS-ANS ANS will update this macro in the RADB as needed. It is expected to show up in the RADB shortly, though I've included it below. Steve ---------------------- as-macro: AS-ANS descr: List of ANS ASes by U.S. region as-list: AS-ANS-EAST AS-ANS-CENTRAL AS-ANS-WEST guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-EAST descr: List of ANS U.S. Eastern ASes as-list: AS-ANS-NY AS-ANS-CT AS-ANS-DC AS-ANS-NC AS-ANS-PA AS-ANS-GA guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-CENTRAL descr: List of ANS U.S. Central ASes as-list: AS-ANS-TX AS-ANS-MO AS-ANS-IL AS-ANS-OH guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-WEST descr: List of ANS U.S. Western ASes as-list: AS-ANS-CO AS-ANS-WA AS-ANS-SF AS-ANS-LA AS-ANS-NM AS-ANS-HA guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-NY descr: List of ANS NY ASes as-list: AS1324 AS238 AS689 AS1128 AS1660 AS1662 AS1665 AS1670 as-list: AS1680 AS1683 AS1690 as-list: AS1747 AS2019 AS2020 AS2386 AS2493 AS2514 AS2685 AS3065 AS3397 as-list: AS3670 AS3769 AS3792 AS3800 AS3903 AS3997 AS4019 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-CT descr: List of ANS CT ASes as-list: AS1326 AS2002 AS2538 AS2752 AS3723 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-DC descr: List of ANS DC ASes as-list: AS1327 AS1133 AS1686 AS1693 AS1972 AS1934 AS2056 AS2548 as-list: AS2631 AS2649 AS3358 AS3360 AS3394 AS4018 AS4252 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-PA descr: List of ANS PA ASes as-list: AS1336 AS3576 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-NC descr: List of ANS NC ASes as-list: AS1329 AS1312 AS1278 AS2916 AS4188 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-GA descr: List of ANS GA ASes as-list: AS1333 AS1697 AS1969 AS2560 AS3595 AS4236 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-TX descr: List of ANS TX ASes as-list: AS1328 AS2139 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-MO descr: List of ANS MO ASes as-list: AS1330 AS1657 AS1689 AS2552 AS3145 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-IL descr: List of ANS IL ASes as-list: AS1323 AS17 AS1676 AS1681 AS1686 AS1688 AS1692 AS1757 as-list: AS2489 AS3789 AS4053 AS4181 AS4249 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-OH descr: List of ANS OH ASes as-list: AS1325 AS1678 AS1681 AS1757 AS1975 AS2138 AS2752 AS3552 as-list: AS3672 AS4373 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-CO descr: List of ANS CO ASes as-list: AS1332 AS1744 AS2140 AS2941 AS3149 AS3364 AS3378 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-WA descr: List of ANS WA ASes as-list: AS1331 AS1671 AS1684 AS1691 AS2022 AS2544 AS3818 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-SF descr: List of ANS SF ASes as-list: AS1321 AS1280 AS1679 AS1688 AS1744 AS1957 AS2386 AS2551 AS2772 as-list: AS3462 AS3568 AS3605 AS3758 AS3768 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-LA descr: List of ANS LA ASes as-list: AS1322 AS1671 AS2930 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-NM descr: List of ANS NM ASes as-list: AS1334 AS175 AS377 AS3388 AS2901 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS as-macro: AS-ANS-HA descr: List of ANS HA ASes as-list: AS1335 AS3381 guardian: rtmonger(a)ans.net rtmonger(a)noc.ans.net tech-c: Selina Priestley admin-c: Steve Heimlich notify: ans-admin(a)ans.net notify: heimlich(a)ans.net mnt-by: ANS changed: heimlich(a)ans.net 950430 source: ANS

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Re: Pathways of the NSFNET - a poem
by Sean Doran 01 May '95

01 May '95

Actually, credit where it's due, it's Pope's poem, from _Essay on Man_, which was written in the early 1700s. Sean.

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Re: May COOK Report Published tonight (fwd)
by rcollet＠sprint.net 01 May '95

01 May '95

Karl: if the preponderence of the membership feels the same way as you do we'll obviously not pursue this approach. What are your thoughts on the alternative approach of simply enhancing existing InterNIC operations through supplementary funding, e.g., from CIX, ISOC, etc. thanks Bob Collet >> >> I hope this is a road they never try to go down. >> >> Joseph Stroup >> >> On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Michael Dillon wrote: >> >> > >> > I wonder how many of you have heard about the CIX plans to become THE >> > Internet routing arbiter and in other ways replace the former NSFNet? >> > Is there any serious possibility of their plans coming to fruition? > >This is a road that, should the CIX attempt to travel, it will be met with >extremely high resistance from people like myself. > >You don't even want to think about the restraint of trade issues if a trade >association tries to set itself up as a RA or NIC and demands money for >membership to receive those services. > >-- >-- >Karl Denninger (karl(a)MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity >Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland >Voice: [+1 312 248-8649] | 7 POPs online through Chicago, all 28.8 >Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info(a)mcs.net" for more information >ISDN: Surf at Smokin' Speed | WWW: http://www.mcs.net, gopher: gopher.mcs.net

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Pathways of the NSFNET - a poem
by skh＠merit.edu 01 May '95

01 May '95

Hi all: Late last night upon the last hours of NSFNET, I wrote something in response to Sean Doran's poem. By request of a few friends, I am submitting it to NANOG list for thought. I hope you enjoy it. Pathways of the NSFNET (1988-1995) All pathways lead but inward, yet ever outward. All travels begin, and run far only to end at the beginning. Dreams which lead us to learn to build, Lead us onward only to find out How little we truly understand our pathways which go ever onward in spite of us; For time burns all but truth away. Networks begun grow toward success. If they succeed, they often transform beyond us. Like children who grow up and beyond us and lead us further to understand who we are. (A poem for the end of the NSFNET era from a nsfnet nerd.) Blessings and best wishes for the Next Generation Internet, Sue Hares Sean's poem that inspired me > > All nature is but art unknown to thee; > All chance, direction which thou canst not see; > All discord, harmony not understood; > All partial evil, universal good; > And, spite of pride, in erring reason's spite, > One truth is clear, "Whatever IS, is RIGHT." [some future RFC] > > Sean. > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > >

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May COOK Report Published tonight (fwd)
by Michael Dillon 01 May '95

01 May '95

I wonder how many of you have heard about the CIX plans to become THE Internet routing arbiter and in other ways replace the former NSFNet? Is there any serious possibility of their plans coming to fruition? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Gordon Cook <gcook(a)tigger.jvnc.net> To: inet-access(a)earth.com Subject: May COOK Report Published tonight Apologies for the empty post! CIX Reorganization. pp. 1-7 We publish an interview with CIX Association President Bob Collet. In January the CIX appointed Susan Fitzgerald as its new Executive Director. Given the uncertain situation of the CIX, Susan's position is part time while she continues to run her network consulting company. Nevertheless Collet and Fitzgerald have been hard at work on a strategic plan and telecom white paper designed to turn the CIX into a trade association. While the CIX is still running its router and filtering has just gone into effect, the environment of the Internet has been so totally transformed since last summer that that the interconnect and peering services offered by the CIX router have become essentially meaningless with the opening of the NAPs and MAE West and the expansion of MAE-East. However, the change in network topology has done interesting things to the cost of directly connecting to the core Internet. A year ago this could be done via a connection at the CIX router for perhaps $40,000 a year for the membership, connect fee and T-1 transit to the router. Now connection at T-3 speeds to multiple NAPs is necessary at a base cost that we estimate to be about $400,000 a year. The CIX task force that was recruited when Collet became President late last November has turned its attention to such tasks as the definition of lobbying positions before the FCC in an effort to keep a level field for ISPs faced with the entry of RBOCs into their markets. In its Strategic Plan it has also outlined a new infrastructure model of High Bandwidth Packet Exchange Points (HPEPs), First Tier Providers, Large ISPs and Third Tier Prodivers which may aggregate their traffic in Packet Exchange Points before being sent on the HPEPs. One of the possible roles posited for the CIX is providing the basic language of interconnect agreements between the various levels of the new infrastructure. Running a routing registry for members is another possible service for members that is discussed. While press accounts list 155 members Susan Fitzgerald told us that the current count is actually 145. She said this figured is taken from the total number of networks that had ever joined the CIX, including the large number that signed up last fall paying a partial year's fee in order to be able to attend the Atlanta membership meeting. Critical to the CIX's future will be the number who pay 1995 dues. Because the first thing that Fitzgerald had to do was reorganize the CIX's books, invoices for 1995 dues were not even sent out until February. Members will have until June 1 to pay up in order to attend the membership meeting at I- Net in Hawaii later that month. The Strategic Plan and Telecom White Paper were sent to memebrs on March 30, with the hope that they would give members sufficient reason to renew. With only a single tier of dues set at $7500 a year, our guess is that the number of members at the June meeting will be much diminished from the current 145 total. Last week NYSERnet announced that it would not be renewing its CIX membership - not a good sign for the future viability of the CIX. While there is nothing about the program that Collet has put together that looks especially negative to us, there are parts of the infrastructure model design that may not be well received by all quarters. More important however is the question of communication with the network community at large. If the CIX is ever again to speak for the preponderance of the commercial internet, those on its Board must take the organization's new program before the internet community as a whole and argue openly for its support. The fact that we have not seen this happen combined with an increasingly active role by an Internet Society showing signs of wanting to move into the vacuum created by the end of the NSFnet, is not a sign that bodes well for the CIX's future. ISOC, Network Infrastructure, IETF & NAPs pp.1, 8 -9 Who will put money into commercial domain name registration and into the IETF is a current critical topic among Internet policy makers. We state some NSF assumptions on these issues, publish responses from ISOC Director Tony Rutkowskii and describe the decision taken by the Federal Networking Council to continue supporting IETF to the tune of nearly 1.5 million a year in order to be certain that IETF maintains its independence. Updates on PacBell and Ameritech NAPs - including a PacBell communications slip. MCI May Impose Metered Pricing pp. 10 - 11 MCI's John Houser side stepped our questions after New Hampshire ISP asserted that his MCI sales reps had said metered pricing would begin some time in May. Routing in the Post NSFnet World, pp. 12-16 The MERIT Policy Routing Data Base is being replaced by the Routing Arbiter Database and Route Servers. But in the new decentralized multiple backbone world we have just enetered, not everyone has committed to use the Routing Arbiter. This combined with heavy pressure on Sprint's routers, caused Sprint to begin to restrict the portability of some CIDR blocks for routing purposes. After a heavy flame war between Sprint, PSI and MCSnet, the likely out come will be to restrict greatly the portability of IP numbers obtained via CIDR blocs should a customer using those numbers decide to change providers. Access Indiana Revisited, pp. 17-20 The award of the state preferred provider contract has been delayed until late May. In the meantime it has become clear that a centralized head end, top down model into which all community networks will be plugged is intended. A 12 county private sector effort to link K-12 schools was polity told to stand aside in early April since it would be duplicating the centralized effort of state government. When a private ISP offered to extend service into a rural community, she was also rebuffed. Ameritech, State Dept of Education and State Library money is going not into community owned infrastructure but rather should go according to organizer Ed Tully into professional web page design so that Indiana communities will have attractive content to give a state choosen central provider. When many communities said they had adequate talent to design their own Web pages, Tully sharply disagreed. Washington State Porn Bill pp. 21-22 Under this grossly misguided legislation now on Governor Mark Lowry's desk, ISPs would be liable to the tune of $5000 a day and one year in jail for each instance of pornographic material found on their systems by minors. The legislation would effectively force ISPs to deny access to minors. ******************************************************************** Gordon Cook, Editor & Publisher Subscript.: Individ-ascii $85 The COOK Report on Internet -> NREN Non Profit. $150 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 Small Corp & Gov't $200 (609) 882-2572 Corporate $350 Internet: cook(a)cookreport.com Corporate. Site Lic $650 http://www.netaxs.com/~cook <- Subscription Info & COOK Report Index ********************************************************************

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