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Charter Information
by simon＠higgs.com 05 Dec '95

05 Dec '95

Can someone please send me charter & subscription info for the Nanog list. Thanks, _____S_i_m_o_n___H_i_g_g_s______________________H_i_g_g_s___A_m_e_r_i_c_a_____ ... "I'm fine - it's the others" .............. President/CEO ............... _____e-mail:_simon@higgs.com____________________http://www.higgs.com/_________

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by Pam Ciesla 04 Dec '95

04 Dec '95

Larry: I have removed you from the nanog mail list. Pam Ciesla >From list-admin(a)merit.edu Sun Dec 3 11:58:26 1995 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by home.merit.edu (8.7.1/merit-2.0) with SMTP id LAA03987; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from achilles.ctd.anl.gov (achilles.ctd.anl.gov [146.137.72.1]) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id LAA18823 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:31:40 -0500 Received: from falstaff.ctd.anl.gov (falstaff.ctd.anl.gov [146.137.64.30]) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA10378 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 10:31:39 -0600 From: Larry Amiot <b10523(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov> Received: (b10523@localhost) by falstaff.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA20525 for nanog(a)merit.edu; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 10:31:37 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 10:31:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199512031631.KAA20525(a)falstaff.ctd.anl.gov> To: nanog(a)merit.edu Status: RO Please remove me from the nanog(a)merit.edu email list....Larry Larry Amiot Electronics & Computing Technologies Division Argonne National Laboratory 9700 South Cass Avenue Argonne, Il 60439-4844 Phone: (708) 252-5432 Fax: (708) 252-9689 Internet: amiot(a)anl.gov Bitnet: B10523@ANLVM X.400: /C=US/ADMD=/PRMD=ANL/S=amiot

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by mduckett＠bellsouth.net 04 Dec '95

04 Dec '95

subscribe ------------------------------------- E-mail: mduckett(a)bellsouth.net Michael Duckett Network Engineering Manager 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd, Suite 200 Atlanta, Ga. 30342 770 392-4324 fax 404 392-4360 This message was sent by Chameleon -------------------------------------

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Re: Censorship, Obligations, and Legal Responsibility
by Sean Doran 03 Dec '95

03 Dec '95

I hate to throw a wet blanket at Alan, but I would really prefer to redirect this kind of philosophical/legal question to either the cix-members list or to com-priv. I don't want to see NANOG dissolve into a forum for discussing legal issues, principally because a/ it's *NA*NOG, and the law is different in places in north america outside the USA, which many people invariably tend to forget, and b/ such discussions invariably attract long-winded flamefests. Given that such issues really don't overly affect network operations at this point in time, perhaps we won't be too bad off not dealing with them on this mailing list. Sean.

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by Larry Amiot 03 Dec '95

03 Dec '95

Please remove me from the nanog(a)merit.edu email list....Larry Larry Amiot Electronics & Computing Technologies Division Argonne National Laboratory 9700 South Cass Avenue Argonne, Il 60439-4844 Phone: (708) 252-5432 Fax: (708) 252-9689 Internet: amiot(a)anl.gov Bitnet: B10523@ANLVM X.400: /C=US/ADMD=/PRMD=ANL/S=amiot

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Re: Censorship, Obligations, and Legal Responsibility
by Sean Doran 03 Dec '95

03 Dec '95

I should also point out that the reason I suggested cix-members is simply because the CIX has gone to bat with an amicus brief in a case involving precisely this question, and while I know Bob Collet reads NANOG with his Sprint hat on, asking him about the very angry Church of Scientology matter is best done in a place where he wears his CIX hat, I think. Besides, I'm sure he has scads of information about this entire set of issues he'd love to share. :) Sean.

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Censorship, Obligations, and Legal Responsibility
by Alan Hannan 03 Dec '95

03 Dec '95

With the publicity surrounding the recently announced coalition and agreement eliminating 'pornography' from certain providers, I am curious as to what our group's thoughts are wrt potential legal expoure to us in the following two areas: A| Network Connectivity Providing and B| Usenet Network News Providing. I have arguments in my head both ways on the question: "Is the NSP|ISP responsible for content of their Pipes|NNTP feed?" I would be curious to hear what the concensus (as if there might be one) is. -alan

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Re: Westnet and Utah outage
by Scott Huddle 02 Dec '95

02 Dec '95

So this is to imply that you do have a problem w/ Sprint and that you are picking on them in a specific way? -scott > From list-admin(a)merit.edu Wed Nov 22 09:23:19 1995 > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:20:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Gordon Cook <gcook(a)tigger.jvnc.net> > Reply-To: cook(a)cookreport.com > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Westnet and Utah outage > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > TEXT/PLAIN> ; > charset=US-ASCII> > Content-Length: 762 > > small clarification. I have no problem with westnet and do not mean to > be picking on it in anyway. I have a friend who lives in westnet's > service area who gets bothered by these outages and passes them on to me. > > ******************************************************************** > Gordon Cook, Editor & Publisher Subscript.: Individ-ascii $85 > The COOK Report on Internet Non Profit. $150 > 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 Small Corp & Gov't $200 > (609) 882-2572 Corporate $350 > Internet: cook(a)cookreport.com Corporate. Site Lic $650 > Newly expanded COOK Report Web Pages http://pobox.com/cook/ > ******************************************************************** > > >

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Re: Internet software development acceleration
by kwe＠6SigmaNets.com 02 Dec '95

02 Dec '95

At 10:26 AM 12/1/95, Eilish McCaffrey wrote: > I am a participant, as a 'listener', to the nanog. I understand its >origins and also applaud how information is shared among 'competitive' >entities ie ISPs. > ... > We are all working to build an optimal Internet infrasturcture and the >software\web enablement techniques available might help accelerate >capabilities\enhancements to market. If we chose to use this language >'toolkit' as a whole, which can be used for 'intranet' and I\S solutions as >well, it might minimize the technological frustrations of today. > > Any thoughts? > > Eilish McCaffrey > > Does this language toolkit contain terms such as: "I understand what you are saying..." "I respect your position, but I disagree with you on this point, ..." "In the spirit of cooperation, let's do this..."? If not, it won't help much. --Kent

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