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Re: Routing registry was Re: Sprint BGP filters in 207.x.x.x?
by Peter Lothberg 04 Jan '96

04 Jan '96

> So if they were supposed to use the services of the routing arbiter and > appear to have renigged on this, what can anyone do?? Are they determined > to make it painfully obvious for all to see that there are no enforcement > teeth left at the NSF? The RA is broken, just relabeling work of Ripe and mess it upp is not very usefull for the Global Internet. Ripe-81 (that most of this is based on) was supposed to be a start of a toolkit for ISP's, not a tol for someone who think they are the network Police. -Peter

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Naming MAE-EAST
by Mike O'Dell 04 Jan '96

04 Jan '96

that name was picked to facilitate another choice later.

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Re: Interconnects at NANOG
by Jonathan Heiliger 04 Jan '96

04 Jan '96

On Jan 3, 3:43pm, Dave Siegel wrote: > When the TLA's are expanded into their actual meanings, Metropolitan Area > Exchange, and Network Access Point, there does not appear to be a great deal > of difference between the two, except that one is a term that MFS Datanet > started, and the other is one that the government sited as the term for the > exchanges they were helping to fund/promote. I've also heard a rumor that at least part of the convention was due to the MAE being called Metropolitan Area Ethernet which was, again, I believe coined by Andrew Partan of UUNET. Perhaps term IXP, IntereXchange Point could be used. Too many acronyms has long been a trend in technology. :-) -jh-

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by agolden＠cyberramp.net 04 Jan '96

04 Jan '96

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Next Meeting
by Christian Nielsen 04 Jan '96

04 Jan '96

I was looking at the NANOG home page and looking for information on the next NANOG meeting. The only thing I could find was http://www.merit.edu/routing.arbiter/NANOG/mtg-9602/.index.html Update on the Next NANOG Meeting The next NANOG meeting will be hosted by the San Diego Supercomputer Center and held February 15-16 in San Diego. Watch this space for further details! I would like to go and also get my reservations in now to save $$. If anyone has more information or could point me to a better page, that would be good. thanks Christian Nielsen Vyzynz International Inc. cnielsen(a)vii.com,CN46,KB7HAP Phone 801-568-0999 Fax 801-568-0953 PS :) Private Email christian(a)nielsen.net ********************************************************************* * Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail will cost $500/message under USC 47 * * which can be found online at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/* *********************************************************************

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Re: Interconnects at NANOG
by Eric Kozowski 04 Jan '96

04 Jan '96

>As for the original topic, other regional exchanges, perhaps Eric at >Structured would like to talk about the Northwest Internet eXchange? (NIX) > >Eric? The prospects for me being able to attend the next NANOG are marginal right now, so I cannot commit to doing so. Some other things take higher precidence. -- Eric Kozowski Structured Network Systems, Inc. kozowski(a)structured.net Better, Cheaper, Faster -- pick any two. (503)656-3530 Voice "Providing High Quality, Reliable Internet Service" (800)881-0962 Voice 56k to DS1

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Re: Interconnects at NANOG
by hwb＠upeksa.sdsc.edu 03 Jan '96

03 Jan '96

>Can we agree that there's no longer any difference between MAE, NAP, and >Interconnect? [with the exception of ``the four priority NAPs''] There never has been, I think.

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Re: Interconnects at NANOG
by sob＠academ.com 03 Jan '96

03 Jan '96

I think the term "interconnect" is fairly generic. I have often heard some of the providers refer to the MAEs and NAPs as "public interconnects"... However, I think folks use the term "MAE" and "NAP" to refer to different implementations of a "public interconnect"... It is probably an oversimplification to say they are all the same thing. -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob(a)academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: {mcsun|amdahl}!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.

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208/8 announcements
by Alan Hannan 03 Jan '96

03 Jan '96

I am under the impression that the 208/8 network has not yet been assigned to anyone. It appears we are only up to 207.19/16. However, as someone (Avi?) pointed out earlier: | Cis3#sh ip bgp 208.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 long | BGP table version is 34728, local router ID is 192.35.171.193 | Status codes: s suppressed, * valid, > best, i - internal | Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete | | Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path | *>i208.0.1.0 192.35.171.34 1 50 0 3561 1280 3847 ? | *>i208.0.4.0 192.35.171.34 1 50 0 3561 1280 3847 ? | *>i208.0.5.0 192.35.171.34 1 50 0 3561 1280 3847 ? | *>i208.0.9.0 192.35.171.34 1 50 0 3561 1280 3847 ? | Cis3# Is anyone filtering these routes? From a customer perspective, I think it would be nice if my providers would do so. Or maybe these guys would filter them: | anka:~# whois 3847 | [rs.internic.net] | Internet Media Network, Inc. (ASN-IMN) | 20417 NORDHOFF STREET | CHATSWORTH, CA 91311 | | Autonomous System Name: IMN | Autonomous System Number: 3847 | | Coordinator: | Joffe, Rodney (RJ48) rjoffe(a)IMN.NET | 818-407-0000 | Alternate Contact: | Gibbs, Mark (MG148) mgibbs(a)RAIN.ORG | 818-700-6900 | | Record last updated on 23-Sep-94. | | The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information | (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). | Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. | anka:~# I dunno, maybe I should filter them. What are other people doing? -alan

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Re: Interconnects at NANOG
by salo＠msc.edu 03 Jan '96

03 Jan '96

> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 12:03:48 -0700 (MST) > From: Ehud Gavron <GAVRON(a)ACES.COM> > Subject: Re: Interconnects at NANOG > To: srh(a)merit.edu > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu, GAVRON(a)ACES.COM > > Can we agree that there's no longer any difference between MAE, NAP, and > Interconnect? [with the exception of ``the four priority NAPs''] > > Nit: Tucson has the C before the S... It is probably still appropriate to use the term "NAP" to refer to those interconnect points which are sponsored by the NSF under solicitation 93-52. The solicitation specifies the duties of a NAP Manager organization; read it for details. I believe that the NSF has three or four contracts (Cooperative Agreements to be more precise) in place with NAP Managers for the Sprint, MFS, Ameritech and PacBell NAPs. (I don't know whether Ameritech and PacBell are one or two Cooperative Agreements, although it is probably easy to look it up.) -tjs

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