At 04:01 PM 10/8/96 -0500, Paul J. Zawada wrote:
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>At 04:13 PM 10/8/96 -0400, Richard Stiennon wrote:
>>At 03:41 PM 10/8/96 -0400, Scott Huddle wrote:
>>>Isn't this the same mission as the vBNS?
>>>
>> >> University Internet Proposed
>>
>>No, it sounds like a way for the Universities to upgrade from their T1
>>connections without making room in their budgets!
>
>Sort of...
>
>It's a way for Universities to talk to _each_other_ at higher speeds without
>having to pay for the *ahem* value "added" by the Internet. Higher-Ed
>institutions want to talk to each other at higher speeds but don't
>necessarily want pay for their undergrads' (or professors' for that matter)
>ability to download nudie-GIFs 20x faster.
Persons have already hashed the vBNS issue around a bit. What is going to
keep that INET2 from becoming the nudie network? Since most business
customers via ISPs are dialed in (even on ISDN), I can't imagine the
network capacity used for illicit transfers being high. However, in
ethernet connected dorms and labs on campuses with DS3 connectivity, there
is significant possible network usage for illicit transfers, network games,
etc. I can see it for the next version of
DOOM. "DOOM the Final Frontier requires a IBMPC compat with P7-3000 or
equivalent, Superdooper VGA, THX compatible soundcard, VR suit, and FDDI
connection to INET 2 for optimal play".
I see benefits for a EDU consortium like CIX's network with all the edus
peered to each other. But there are far too many networks with overlapping
purposes.
Research/Education:
NSF funds vBNS. NASA funds NSI. Both of these are used for "worthy"
educational/research. And now Internet II.
Defense:
DoD has its own Internet'd networks.
Business/Commercial:
Then you have CIX. And the major NSPs/NAPs.
While, there is nothing to be done about businesses (CIX,NSPs,NAPs) each
building the same infrastructure over and over as long as they see $ in
doing so. I think that someone has to draw the line on taxpayer funded
networks. The effort needs
to be made to consolidate these networks, cutting wasted resources.
>So while there's no more money
>in the budget for faster Internet connectivity, many university provosts
>would be willing to spend more money for bandwidth if it were used for
>"nobler" pursuits. Basically, they want the Internet they had 6 years ago
>only faster.
>
>Internet II, if it happens, would be Higher-Ed's intranet.
Agreed. I used to share that same Internet 6 years ago. I don't think
another
network is going to make that happen though. It will be just another thing
to manage. Another BGP peer for the campus routers. Its resources will be
used for other purposes than the original intent.
-Ken
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Systems, Networks, and Internet Solutions -- Defining Technology Today
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