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Re: BBN outage
by Ravi Puvvala 12 Oct '96

12 Oct '96

BBNPlanet's back operational now. Ravi > > Rob Liebschutz <rob(a)rjl.com> says: > > >> Most of the SF Bay Area portion of BBN Planet's network has been offline > >> since late last night. I've finally heard, via a friend who is a major > >> customer of theirs, that they are having power problems in Palo Alto. > >> > >> Now, I haven't heard a peep about this on any of the mailing lists I'm on... > >> and since knowing about BIG outages like this would make it easier for > >> me to answer my customer's questions... am I missing something? > >> > >> Is there a mailing list that I should be on? Or is this just a private > >> BBN issue that I'd need to call their ops center people about (people who > >> I'm sure are very very busy without small network operators calling them) > >> > >> -matthew kaufman > >> matthew(a)scruz.net > >> > >> > > > >I just spoke to their NOC and was told that a power switch that is > >supposed to be able to switch them between 3 different power utilities > >failed at 12:30 this morning (friday). They bought and installed 2 > >large diesel generators today and are hoping to be back up using the > >generators within 30 minutes. > > > We're trying to figure out how long BBN's been down, are you talking > 12:30am PDT? If so, then they been down 16 hours. I started seeing mail > failures to Stanford (a big BBN site) at 9:33am PDT and first got email > about the problem from another ISP at around 11am. > > > --charles > charles(a)etak.com >

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Re: BBN outage
by Rob Liebschutz 12 Oct '96

12 Oct '96

We'll I got that information from the East Coast NOC. I suspect that the power failed at 12:30am PDT, but I believe they ran off battery backup for sometime before going down. There are BBN/Barrnet people on this list that could probably provide more accurate information. > > > Rob Liebschutz <rob(a)rjl.com> says: > > >> Most of the SF Bay Area portion of BBN Planet's network has been offline > >> since late last night. I've finally heard, via a friend who is a major > >> customer of theirs, that they are having power problems in Palo Alto. > >> > >> Now, I haven't heard a peep about this on any of the mailing lists I'm on... > >> and since knowing about BIG outages like this would make it easier for > >> me to answer my customer's questions... am I missing something? > >> > >> Is there a mailing list that I should be on? Or is this just a private > >> BBN issue that I'd need to call their ops center people about (people who > >> I'm sure are very very busy without small network operators calling them) > >> > >> -matthew kaufman > >> matthew(a)scruz.net > >> > >> > > > >I just spoke to their NOC and was told that a power switch that is > >supposed to be able to switch them between 3 different power utilities > >failed at 12:30 this morning (friday). They bought and installed 2 > >large diesel generators today and are hoping to be back up using the > >generators within 30 minutes. > > > We're trying to figure out how long BBN's been down, are you talking > 12:30am PDT? If so, then they been down 16 hours. I started seeing mail > failures to Stanford (a big BBN site) at 9:33am PDT and first got email > about the problem from another ISP at around 11am. > > > --charles > charles(a)etak.com >

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Re: BBN outage
by Sanjay Dani 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

> > On an unrelated note, I still have hard time believing > > companies like Sun are single homed through bbnplanet > > and have no backup when things like this happen. > > Why, just a few weeks ago there was a big discussion here on the > NANOG list that definitively proved that end-user multihoming > REDUCED reliability for that customer. BBN is a big company... > why would you want to risk all the complexity of having a > backup circuit to someone else? Because loss of connectivity for a day costs 10's of thousands of dollars and, evidently, even the "big" companies are not immune from "acts of god" like what happened today. Sanjay.

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Re: BBN outage
by Sanjay Dani 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

> Most of the SF Bay Area portion of BBN Planet's network has been offline > since late last night. I've finally heard, via a friend who is a major > customer of theirs, that they are having power problems in Palo Alto. > > Now, I haven't heard a peep about this on any of the mailing lists I'm on... > and since knowing about BIG outages like this would make it easier for > me to answer my customer's questions... am I missing something? > > Is there a mailing list that I should be on? Or is this just a private > BBN issue that I'd need to call their ops center people about (people who > I'm sure are very very busy without small network operators calling them) I guess they figured since it made the headlines on www.news.com this morning, everybody knows about it. On an unrelated note, I still have hard time believing companies like Sun are single homed through bbnplanet and have no backup when things like this happen. Sanjay.

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BBN outage
by matthew＠scruz.net 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

Most of the SF Bay Area portion of BBN Planet's network has been offline since late last night. I've finally heard, via a friend who is a major customer of theirs, that they are having power problems in Palo Alto. Now, I haven't heard a peep about this on any of the mailing lists I'm on... and since knowing about BIG outages like this would make it easier for me to answer my customer's questions... am I missing something? Is there a mailing list that I should be on? Or is this just a private BBN issue that I'd need to call their ops center people about (people who I'm sure are very very busy without small network operators calling them) -matthew kaufman matthew(a)scruz.net

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Re: Creating exchanges
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

As long as there is still some life left in this thread, Does anyone have updates/corrections to: http://www.isi.edu/div7/ra/naps.html -- --bill

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Internet: Getting more money ...??
by Srinivasarao Mulugu 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

a news excerpt from y'day.... ========================================================= Mulugu Srinivasarao Tel : 703/904-2013 SprintLink Engineering Fax : 703/904-2292 Sprint, GSD Bldg. ------------------ attachment ---------------------------- Clinton Seeks Upgraded Internet President Clinton is emphasizing the high-tech road of the future on the campaign trail today. During visits to Knoxville, Tenn., and Dayton, Ohio, Clinton proposed a $100 million plan to expand the reach of the Internet. ``It would lead to an explosion in learning,'' Clinton told a campaign rally in downtown Dayton. In Knoxville, Clinton said he wants to see the day ``when computers are as much a part of classrooms as blackboards.'' The proposal includes giving free Internet service to schools and libraries and upgrading the Internet to make it 100 to 1,000 times faster than the existing system. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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NANOG Registration List
by Pam Ciesla 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

Has been updated on the Web at http://www.nanog.org. If your name is not on the list and should be please let me know. Thanks Pam Ciesla

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Cisco's AIP vs HSSI
by Pritish Shah 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

Can anyone tell me which is better and why? Is there any resources out there that will help me in that decision. Pritish

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Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II
by Sanjay Dani 11 Oct '96

11 Oct '96

> From: swolff(a)cisco.com (Stephen Wolff) > Subject: Re: Intra/Inter - was Inet-II > *Whenever* there is public funding of *any* activity, an AUP is attached to > oulaw the misuse of taxpayer money. Internet II is not exempt. I see in today's SF Chronicle that Cisco is one of the promoters of the Internet-II project along with Stanford, other universities and companies. Perhaps you could start by convincing Cisco mgmt and save cisco shareholders' money. > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:29:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs(a)bifrost.seastrom.com> > Would it be impolite to point out that if a $100M R&D effort would > create the technology for a 2-3 order of magnitude speed-up, that the > private sector would be falling all over themselves right this second > to make it happen? Unrelated but see above the support of Cisco, Sprint etc. The same article quoted someone at EFF that there is no need for a new Internet as the current one can be made faster by using cable modems. Hmmm.. Sanjay.

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