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by bera badsa 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Hey everyone, a friend of mine just told me about some Unix/Network reference site, it is pretty useful for us network admins and programmers and I thought it may be appropriate for the list. http://bsdnerds.com is the site please don't think i am spamming the list :). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Does peering at an ATM MAE require a router that does ABR?
by tek weeny 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I have been told by various people that to peer at an ATM MAE point I must have a router that can do ABR? Can anyone verify if this is the case at any of the ATM MAE peering points? Thanks, Julian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Fwd: New York's Con Ed sends power to a telecom hotel -- its own
by Steve Goldstein 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

=============== BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE =============== >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:18:35 -0600 >Subject: New York's Con Ed sends power to a telecom hotel -- its own >To: sgoldste(a)nsf.gov >From: NW View from The Edge <TheEdge(a)bdcimail.com> >Reply-To: The Edge Help <NWReplies(a)bellevue.com> > >NETWORK WORLD NEWSLETTER: DAVID ROHDE >with THE VIEW FROM THE EDGE >02/27/01 - Today's focus: New York's Con Ed sends power to a telecom > hotel -- its own > >Dear STEVEN N GOLDSTEIN, > >In this issue: > >* How one utility is becoming a collocation provider. >* Related links >* Featured reader resource >* IT Job Spot(tm): Mission-critical opportunities with marketplace > winners > >_______________________________________________________________ >This newsletter sponsored by Extreme Networks > >Close the loop with the Alpine(TM) 3800 Ethernet service >provisioning platform from Extreme Networks(R). 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Visit our fabulous >15-year celebration page on Network World Fusion for complete >details: http://napps.nwfusion.com/15th.html >_______________________________________________________________ >Today's focus: New York's Con Ed sends power to a telecom > hotel -- its own > >By David Rohde > >Recently we reported that the rise of collocation spaces for carriers >and ISPs built largely on speculation has raised alarms at electric >companies. They fear that proposals for such concentrated uses of >power - up to 10 times the normal load for a commercial office >building - could tax their ability to build out their power grids. > >So here's an irony for you. New York's Consolidated Edison Co., far >from shooing away collocation providers, has decided to become one >itself. > >Actually, the idea for a new collocation facility in Manhattan comes >from Con Edison Communications (CEC), the electric utility's telecom >subsidiary. CEC participates in a major telecom hotel at 111 Eighth >Ave. in Manhattan, and last week announced it was offering 22,000 >square feet of collocation space to ISPs, CLECs and value-added >service providers. > >CEC has hired 15-year Bell Atlantic veteran Peter Rust as president >to lead the company's charge into the wholesale carrier's carrier >business - which, in New York, could include services to financial >firms that run big-time private networks. > >CEC is running fiber up and down the island of Manhattan. It aims to >directly connect 1,000 buildings in the next four years, and put >itself within a few blocks of all the other buildings. It competes >with metro fiber players like Metromedia Fiber Network, whose new >long-haul buildout we wrote about last week >(http://www.nwfusion.com/edge/columnists/2001/0219edge1.html) but >CEC is concentrating on lighting its own fiber for both pure optical >and SONET-ready services. > >Among CEC's key suppliers are Cisco for its Cerent family of >next-generation SONET boxes running up to OC-48, and Nortel for its >OPTera metro optical switches supporting dense wave-division >multiplexing (DWDM). > >CEC doesn't have religious fervor about which technologies to favor, >just a conviction that carriers in New York City need massive amounts >of capacity. It'll support TDM, Gigabit Ethernet and pure IP. It'll >also support DWDM, but only from POP to POP, not directly to the >enterprise. "I can't cost-justify offering wavelengths to the >building," Rust tells me. > >Still, one of the things CEC will be promoting to service providers >is the ability to run directly into buildings where all the >enterprise customers are located. Rust says that his building model >leaves him less concerned about the typical problems with in-building >broadband service, centering around service providers who play a >chicken-and-egg game of waiting to serve a building until they have >signed up customers there. > >That's largely a problem where service providers are trying to >cost-justify T-1 voice and data services with relatively scant profit >margins, he says. CEC and its carrier customers are going after >bigger fish. "We'll offer a T-1 if we're in a building anyway," says >Rust. "But we're not going to go into a building just for a T-1." > >Regarding power requirements, Rust turns what others consider a >problem into an opportunity. Perhaps because New York already has >well-established carrier meet points, "there aren't that many collo >hotels in the city," he says. "There are a number proposed, but I >don't think they're all going to be built." The main point is this: >"There are options for power companies - to go into the on-site >generator business in these buildings, either primary or back-up." > >Right now CEC is concentrating on the New York metro area, but it has >applied for necessary regulatory approvals to operate in states from >Maine to Washington, D.C. It's partnered with Neon Communications, >which providers long-haul fiber transport services linking the >population centers in the Northeast. > >_______________________________________________________________ >To contact David Rohde: > >David Rohde, managing editor of Network World's The Edge, has >been covering and analyzing telecom issues - from plain old >telephone service to optical networking and everything >between - since 1990. 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RE:
by Matthew Schlegel 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I did have problems with call completion throughout most of the day yesterday, but I think that can be safely attributed to overwelming call volumes. Normally I do not have any problems with my PCS phone around 425/206/360 area codes. I've also had my phone around san jose area with no problems. Matthew Schlegel Network Engineer Crossgain Corporation - -----Original Message----- From: CARL.P.HIRSCH(a)sargentlundy.com [mailto:CARL.P.HIRSCH@sargentlundy.com] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:22 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: So you're saying everything's okay now? This is consistent with results on my Sprint PCS phone in the 773/312 earthquake or no. I've learned to just not rely on the thing and take my measly $20 SLA discount from them on a monthly basis. Can't wait until GSM hits Chicago. >I have a Sprint PCS phone, all calls dialed left me with a fast busy >(when I could get carrier) until about about 30 minutes ago. >Now it rings but I get disconnected when the call tries to connect. >Regards, >Chris - -carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBOp58yitAKYXwpQg1EQKVpACg2Bm/fCTnGJ6QaOqspwwfapOEN8oAoJSS dYEfc1mHRfG92j262wpAIWwT =pH46 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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(no subject)
by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

So you're saying everything's okay now? This is consistent with results on my Sprint PCS phone in the 773/312 earthquake or no. I've learned to just not rely on the thing and take my measly $20 SLA discount from them on a monthly basis. Can't wait until GSM hits Chicago. >I have a Sprint PCS phone, all calls dialed left me with a fast busy >(when I could get carrier) until about about 30 minutes ago. >Now it rings but I get disconnected when the call tries to connect. >Regards, >Chris -carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc

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MAE West ATM
by marcellus＠zephion.net 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Hello, Is anyone out there using a Juniper to connect the MAE ATM switch? If so, please contact me off-list. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Marcellus Smith 571.226.1223 Office 703-395-4275 Cell marcellus(a)zephion.net

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Summary: Seattle earthquake - no impact
by Sean Donelan 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

It seems the biggest impact of the Seattle earthquake on the Internet was the brief unreachability of the KOMO-TV Station and Seattle Times web sites. No telecommunications companies report any reported network problems, although some reported they were on generator power for a short time. Abovenet/mfn ATT Genuity Internap Sprintlink Verio Verizon Worldcom/uunet/mfs/etc The Seattle Internet Exchange (SIX) appeared unaffected. I don't know the current status of either either the NIX or the SNNAP. I have out-dated URL's for them. I especially liked the part where the reporter could only reach the telephone spokepeople via e-mail at first because the phone lines were so overloaded. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/quake_techstatus010228… http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/telcom01.shtml

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One ISP is working to solve problems in seattle
by Sean Donelan 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Actually, one ISP did inform customers there may be some issues accessing their network in the Seattle area. Attention: Due to the earthquake in Washington State, some of our AT&T customers in Washington State may experience difficulties trying to access AT&T WorldNet Services. Our network engineers are working on this issue and will have the service available shortly. 4:55PM EST, 2/28/01 I suspect the difficulties are identical to the difficulties being experience by all customers of all ISPs in the region. But instead of sticking their fingers in their ears, and saying no one reported any problem (probably because the same problems prevents customers from reaching the customer service numbers to report the problem), ATT started working on problems before customers report them.

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Covad SUCKS!
by Roeland Meyer 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

This is a blind message. I don't even know if it's getting out of my mail hub. Theoretically, it should. You won't be able to reply. I can route out, but nothing can get back in. Some of you may remember a poster of this huge eagle stooping on a mouse. The mouse was calmly standing, facing the eagle, flipping it the bird. The title was "Defiance". Covad is the eagle, MHSC is the mouse, and this message is the bird. MHSC has been down since 7Feb01 and Covad is the culprit. MHSC pays its bills, but Covad had a problem with my upstream. On Wednesday, 7Feb01, Covad cut off all links and feeds to my upstream. I've been down ever since. Everyone knows how quickly telcos turn up services, that's why co-lo centers have customers. Covad cut off MHSC access, without warning, without, compansation, and their SafetyNet program is the worst joke. I have a /24 and the new ISPs, that Covad is forcing me to use, can't assign a new /24. Shit, one of them can't even assign one static address. The one that this is going out thru tis trying to convince me that I can run 62 computers, using 130 IP addrs, on a /27 <heh>. We talked earlier about how non-portable addresses suck. Here is the reason why. I either use one of their SafetyNet providers or suffer up to 45 days of outage. Two weeks of warning and I would have been able to avoid the outage. (BTW, my ISDN backup feed is dead as well). I've tried contacting Covad, thier executive staff, etc. No joy there, Covad doesn't care. 100% of MHSC business is directly dependent on our Internet feed. 100% of February revenue is gone. I had two product roll-outs that were scheduled for the following week. Both are now dead issues. MHSC does CA for some of it's customers, renumbering invalidates all those CAs. Every lead we were working is now gone, probably forever, and so are many existing customers. I'm looking at probable business failure. MHSC could sue, but may not survive long enough to collect, even if we win. If MHSC survives this then "Damn, I good!" I urge everyone, do not; 1) Recommend Covad as a DSL provider 2) Become a Covad partner. 3) Remain on Covad service, find someone else (Rythyms sound good) Further, if you have any Covad stock ... sell it. The simple reason is that Covad has shown themselves unworthy of trust. They will cut off service arbitrarily, without direct cause, without compansation or recourse, and without warning. This is NOT the sort of behavior desired from an outfit in charge of your key infrastructure. We are not large, MHSC cannot afford an $80K+ revenue hit, and that's not counting the suits for failure to meet SLA. At this point, I'm not worried about any Covad law suits. What are they going to do ... put MHSC out of business? They've already taken care of that. I hope that this comes to the attention of Covad and I hope that they don't like it! MHSC will also be filing complaints with the CA-PUC and everywhere else that we can. But, a four-year process will not help MHSC stay in business. MHSC is already preparing a Marketing Communication plan to get this story out. MHSC tried dealing with this peacfully and got ignored, by Covad. Covad needs to be shunned by the rest of the Internet community, as a bad net-citizen. MHSC wasn't the ony business effected. There were 800 other busnesses involved in the cut off, that we know of. If any of you know anyone else that has been effected by this outage, please let me know. -- ROELAND M.J. MEYER Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc. TEL: +001 925 373 3954 FAX: +001 925 373 9781 http://www.mhsc.com mailto: rmeyer(a)mhsc.com

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RE: CANIX contact
by Jason Lixfeld 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Unfortunatly finding some one person responsible for the CANIX entity is difficult, if not impossible. Apparently, WorldCom has routed CANIX administration related items through to it's Canadian sales staff, so I would assume that their Canadian Technical Support people would have some knowledge on how it's supported. support(a)uunet.ca // +1 (416) 216-5101 Will hopefully land you somewhere where someone can help ya out. BTW: TorIX is one floor down with the majority of CANIX' peers connected there aswell. Actually, @Home is already, but are you peering with all TorIX members? > -----Original Message----- > From: burgan(a)corp.home.net [mailto:burgan@corp.home.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:00 PM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: CANIX contact > > > > Does anyone have an operational contact for the CANIX ethernet switch > located at 151 Front Street in Toronto? Our port is down. A private > email would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > This email server is running an evaluation copy of the > MailShield anti- > spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any > questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com .

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