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Un /.'d news sites
by Scott Call 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

I just wanted to pass along www.sfgate.com as a source of news on this attack that doesn't seem to have been /.'d They, of course, don't have original content, but do have all the AP/Reuters stuff that's become difficult to access through "normal" channels. www.nando.net seems to load okay, if slowly, as well. It's interesting how the TV-based websites (cnn, msnbc, etc) got knocked offline before paper-based and netonly-based. -S -- Scott Call Router Geek, ATGi, home of $6.95 Prime Rib "[Fairy Tales] are more than true. Not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be defeated" --G.K. Chesterton

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Re: Re: World Trade Center attack
by Frank Coluccio 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Teleport Communications Group, which was acquired by ATT Local Network Services, has/had its Main NY City node in the sixth sub-basement of No. 1 WTC. Almost all of this [with the exception of some of the private, proprietary builds (escon, gbe) for some financial customers] is/was SONETized and self-healing and/or a-b mirrored in 60 Hudson and other large nodes in NY and NJ. > > >how close is the site of the trade center to 60 Hudson? i've looked at my > >map of NYC, and it could be pretty close, or could be a little ways away. > > about half a mile or so north. > > >there is a good chance that any fiber running past the site is toast, > >and of course, the odds of getting a connection using the local PSTN > >in Manhattan are essentially zero right now. > > in my experience so far, the internet is slow in places, but still > okay. > > does anyone remember using irc during the gulf war? > > -- > |-----< "CODE WARRIOR" >-----| > codewarrior(a)daemon.org * "ah! i see you have the internet > twofsonet(a)graffiti.com (Andrew Brown) that goes *ping*!" > andrew(a)crossbar.com * "information is power -- share the wealth." >

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Internet assessment - Sept 11 2001
by Sean Donelan 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Of course, the families of those who were killed and continuing rescue efforts come first. I've had a cold for a few days, and slept in this morning, so I'm a bit behind. Internet traffic patterns show a 10% decrease in network traffic around the time of the event. The World Trade Center in New York is a relatively minor Internet hub, and several providers had reduced the amount of equipment years ago after the WTC bombing. The Pentagon isn't a hub, except for traffic to/from the Pentagon. More likely was damage to surrounding buildings, impact to the electric grid, and debris in air affected some neighby buildings. Perhaps surprising, I can still reach most military web sites. I don't think they've closed the "Drawbridge" on MILNET. Users with "always-on" Internet connections such as T1, DSL, cable modems haven't reported any access problems. Dial-up users are experiencing telephone congestions (and possible Network Management Controls) in New York City and Washington DC. There was a 30 minute drop in Internet traffic, likely due to reduced capacity while traffic was re-routed. Then overall traffic levels increased by about 10% for approximately 1 hour. Now Internet traffic volumes have returned to near pre-event levels, but providers report dramatic changes in usage. Major news sites are seeing severe congestion, and most have dropped all graphics and other bandwidth consuming data. E-mail, DNS, and other "core" Internet operations appear unaffected. Across the country Internet data centers and colocation facilities have been closed except for emergency visits. Most ISPs have suspended regularly scheduled maintaince activities, and "frozen" their networks. New York City is restricting most access the island of Manhattan, and most ISPs don't have the credentials to pass. As far as I know, federal officials have not made any special requests to ISPs to do anything differently. The Internet has become a regular part of many Emergency Operations Centers, including some "secured" websites used by FEMA and the state EOCs. So ISPs should not try to "clear" the lines, because you don't really know who is using your lines. If an EOC needs to reach you, they have their ways.

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RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
by Martin, Christian 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Just saw this.... Not good. http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/ts/cra sh_tradecenter_binladen_dc_2.html -chris > -----Original Message----- > From: deeann mikula [mailto:deeann@telerama.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:02 PM > To: Seth M. Kusiak > Cc: John Fraizer; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Seth M. Kusiak wrote: > > > > > |Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of > virus attack in > > conjunction. > > > > A chemical virus? > > > > i think so. the CDC is preparing bioterrorism teams, according to the > (new refurbed) cnn.com site.... > > deeann m.m. mikula > > director of operations > telerama public access internet > http://www.telerama.com > 1.877.688.3200 > >

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Re: cnn.com cuts graphics (fwd)
by Steve Bellovin 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Reposted with permission. ------- Forwarded Message Message-ID: <20010911131902.50259(a)scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:19:02 -0400 From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra(a)baylink.com> To: Steve Bellovin <smb(a)research.att.com> Subject: Re: cnn.com cuts graphics References: <20010911153956.108B87BFD(a)berkshire.research.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <20010911153956.108B87BFD(a)berkshire.research.att.com>; from Steve Bellovin <smb(a)research.att.com> on Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:39:56AM -0400 Organization: Ashworth & Associates, St Pete FL USA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: a75377a71cba6c1208e048c324990dd6 On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:39:56AM -0400, Steve Bellovin wrote: > cnn.com has switch to very low graphics, in a very good response to the > congestion they have to be experiencing. CNN.com has had a graceful degradation process in place for some years, but this is the hardest I've *ever* seen them cut it (logo and text; that's it.) Google also has a cached version of an earlier page, with a front page link. (I'm not on-list at the moment; feel free to repeat) Cheers, - -- jra - -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015 "Usenet (and fanfic): it's enough to make you loose your mind." -- me ------- End of Forwarded Message --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb http://www.wilyhacker.com

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Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
by Robert Boyle 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

---- Original Message ---- From: max(a)smetannikov.net To: robert(a)tellurian.com, Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:38:07 -0400 >Robert - which fiber went down? AT&T's? It was dark fiber from one of our carriers (GNAPs) which is leased by another unknown (to us) carrier. I believe they rerouted through another city within 30-90 minutes. The fiber did travel through the WTC buildings. >60 Hudson is reportedly intact Our gear at 60 Hudson never even blinked. Power is and was fine and all circuits in and out are fine. Our POP at 32 Old Slip is unmanned at the moment since the building was evacuated, but the fiber has been restored. Exodus is now evacuating 111 8th Avenue in NY. +10,000 killed in lower Manhattan.. 34 dead at the Pentagon.. I feel for all the people who have lost friends and loved ones. Our goal is to keep lines of communication open. The best thing we can do is to continue to enable rescue workers, friends and families to communicate using the only method that is working reliably at this time - The Internet. Our network is 100% operational and we currently have no outages. -Robert -Robert >----- Original Message ----- >From: Robert Boyle <robert(a)tellurian.com> >To: <nanog(a)Overkill.EnterZone.Net>; <mally(a)mally.net>; ><internal(a)tellurian.net> >Cc: <bradd(a)dn.net>; <spork(a)inch.com>; <freedman(a)freedman.net>; ><nanog(a)merit.edu> >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:31 AM >Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect > > >> >> >> The North WTC tower has also colapsed. We have lost fiber going >> through NYC. I am waiting to find out how it was routed and if it >> made a stop at one of the towers. >> >> -Robert >> >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: nanog(a)Overkill.EnterZone.Net >> To: mally(a)mally.net >> Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect >> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:05:29 -0400 (EDT) >> >> > >> > >> >Just some additional information: >> > >> >One of the towers has collapsed completely. Additionally, FBI >> >flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in >conjunction. >> > >> >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Mally Mclane wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> hi, >> >> >> >> > A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. >> >> > I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more >> >info... >> >> >> >> been confirmed by CNN. A third plane. >> >> >> >> The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. >> >Bush has >> >> already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist >> >attack, NYC >> >> is shut down, all airports are shut down. >> >> >> >> good luck:( >> >> >> >> m >> >> >> > >> > >> >--- >> >John Fraizer >> >EnterZone, Inc >> > >> > >> > >> > >

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fyi
by Robert Mathews 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

F Y I .. 11 September/septembre STATEMENT BY THE SECRETARY GENERAL OF NATO LORD ROBERTSON I condemn in the strongest possible terms the senseless attacks which have just been perpetrated against the United States of America. My sympathies go to the American people, the victims and their families. These barbaric acts constitute untolerable aggression against democracy and underline the need for the international community and the members of the Alliance to unite their forces in fighting the scourge of terrorism. DECLARATION DU SECRETAIRE GENERAL DE L'OTAN, LORD ROBERTSON Je condamne avec la plus grande vigueur les attaques qui viennent de se produire aux Etats-Unis. Mes sympathies et celles de l�Alliance vont au peuple am�ricain, aux victimes et � leurs proches. Ces actes barbares sont autant d�atteintes intol�rables � la d�mocratie et soulignent la n�cessit� pour la communaut� internationale et les membres de cette Alliance de faire front commun pour combattre le fl�au du terrorisme. *************************************************************************** Robert Mathews, MSc (Mgmt - Hons), Diplomate (Economics) Senior Scholar-In-Residence On National Security Affairs & U.S Industrial Preparedness @ University of Hawaii Telephone: 808.974.7383 (HI) / 315.733.3056 (NY) / 703.655.7124 (VA/WDC) Telecopier: 808.974.7693 (HI) / 315.733.1521 (NY) E.mail: mathews(a)hawaii.edu / mathews(a)CSATI.EDU NIC: MR3534-ORG

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Can we help?
by Diamond Technology Group 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Though we are a small organization we would like to offer any help that we can in assisting nanog or any other group in dealing with technical problems related to the events in the U.S. today. Please contact me offlist if we can provide assistance of any sort. Jeff Johnstone Diamond Technical Group Ltd. jj(a)diamondtech.ca http://diamondtech.ca V. 250-709-2351 F. 250-709-2351

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RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
by Randy Neals 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Traffic patterns on our network are starting to look different than normal. I expected more traffic but it seems that traffic volumes are decreasing slightly. What are others seeing? -Randy -----Original Message----- From: deeann mikula [mailto:deeann@telerama.com] Sent: September 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Charles Sprickman Cc: Avi Freedman; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote: > > > FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. > > Sounds like on purpose. > > > Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large > > on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area). few people (in pgh, PA) that i have been talking to on irc have reported ./'d news sites everywhere. (cnn.com, yahoo.com, msnbc.com, etc.) my office has been relegated am radio, which is pretty pathetic for an ISP. pretty poor performance for a network orginally designed to faciliate communication in just such circumstances. i hope that military and federal communication is faring better than the commercial sites. > All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations > are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just fine... deeann m.m. mikula director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200

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RE: World Trade Center attack
by Youse, Chuck 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Nevermind, everyone reports the phones (even locally in NYC) are f*cked -----Original Message----- From: Youse, Chuck Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:22 PM To: 'Nanog@Merit. Edu' Subject: RE: World Trade Center attack I'm currently experiencing problems getting through to friends/family in NYC from London. Anybody else having the same issues ... ? Chuck Youse -----Original Message----- From: Greg Pendergrass [mailto:greg@band-x.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:15 PM To: 'Nanog@Merit. Edu' Subject: World Trade Center attack Both towers of the World Trade Center are burning after planes flew into them in an apparent suicide attack. Many people are certainly dead. I don't give a damn what network disruption this causes, but please say a prayer for those killed. Greg Pendergrass

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