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811 10th avenue
by Roy 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Anyone know the status of the AT&T facility at 811 10th Avenue?

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WTC tenants - floor by floor
by Hank Nussbacher 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

http://www.costargroup.com/wtc/NorthTowerTenants.PDF http://www.costargroup.com/wtc/SouthTowerTenants.pdf -Hank

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Re: ABC News mentions Echelon
by John Neiberger 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

| | --- Marshall Eubanks <tme(a)21rst-century.com> wrote: | > | > They must be referring to echelon. What's interesting | > is that ABC news is saying that they have echolon | > like capabilities in the Continental US. | > | > This is much rumoured but always denied and probably | > technically illegal. | | Hogwash. The US laws prevent only the US Agency from spying on it's | citizens. There is nothing that prevents the other Echelon partners (I | beleive they are Austrailia, Britian, and New Zealand) from doing the | spying and sharing the results. | | -Jim P. The US doesn't even bother with all of that; they directly monitor domestic communications of American citizens as a matter of routine. Sad, but true. I know this because I know someone who used to be involved with the project. He denies that it is called Echelon but he does not deny that it exists. John _______________________________________________________ http://inbox.excite.com

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Re: Carnivore
by Eliot Lear 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

From: "Hank Nussbacher" <hank(a)att.net.il> > How many have installed it? and how many would install it without a court order specifying the limits of its use? and how many would install it without filtering to those limits?

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Carnivore
by Hank Nussbacher 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46747,00.html How many have installed it? -Hank

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32 Old Slip AC Outage and 60 Hudson Verizon failure
by Robert Boyle 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Our equipment at 32 Old Slip is not operational. This is apparently due to AC power failure and an inability to start the generators due to ash in the air (this may be a choice as well). Anyone running at 32 Old Slip (TCG/Eagle/Focal/GNAPs are the four I know of on the fourth floor) on DC power is on battery or offline. Our POP at 60 Hudson is up with the MFS/WorldCom provided backhaul circuit to our 34 Exchnage Place Jersey City location, but all Verizon circuits terminating at 60 Hudson are down/down. All MFS/WCom circuits seem to be ok so far... -Robert

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Re: Carnivore
by Steven M. Bellovin 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

In message <4.3.2.7.2.20010912172458.00b11c50(a)max.att.net.il>, Hank Nussbacher writes: > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46747,00.html > >How many have installed it? > It's probably illegal for folks to say. See http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2511.html, section (2)(a)(ii)(B), if it's an ordinary criminal warrant, and section (b)(2)(C) of http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/1805.html for wiretaps under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. (Btw, both acts *require* the government to pay.) --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb http://www.wilyhacker.com

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Reducing power consumption in generator-supplied facilities
by dennis opacki 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

What steps are folks taking to maximize run time of emergency generator equipment and battery in NY facilities currently facing diesel supply issues? Are second halves of redundant systems being temporarily taken off line and non-essential loads being shed in a effort to stretch the time to failure? In a previous life, such precutions were referred to as "rigging for reduced electrical power" and proved quite effective. Thanks, -Dennis

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Yes it's off topic but who cares right now.
by Larry Diffey 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Let's get something clear. Although there are Muslims that believe we should all live in peace and harmony the fundamentals of the Muslim faith state that Christians and Jews should be exterminated. The believe that it's ok to lie, cheat or do whatever it takes to achieve their goals. A Los Angeles radio station (broadcasting in Spanish) reported that a Palestinian community in Palos Verdes, CA was handing out candy to their kids and partying in the streets. This doesn't meant that everyone of Middle Eastern origins is automatically suspicious. I know that many people have left their countries because of practices of their countries (they regularly imprison and execute Christians for evangelizing). Oh, I don't doubt for a second that there were co-conspirators that were born and raised in the United States and have no ethnic and religious ties to the Middle East. Basically, we need to keep our eyes open without going overboard. We need to strike a balance between national security and remaining within the bounds of the Constitution of the United States. I know I'm going to get flamed big time but oh well. When political correctness runs smack into reality, reality wins. Flame away! Larry Diffey

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RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
by Hire, Ejay 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Washingtonpost.com stayed online and access-able. Thank you -> Akmai. -----Original Message----- From: deeann mikula [mailto:deeann@telerama.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Charles Sprickman Cc: Avi Freedman; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote: > > > FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. > > Sounds like on purpose. > > > Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large > > on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area). few people (in pgh, PA) that i have been talking to on irc have reported ./'d news sites everywhere. (cnn.com, yahoo.com, msnbc.com, etc.) my office has been relegated am radio, which is pretty pathetic for an ISP. pretty poor performance for a network orginally designed to faciliate communication in just such circumstances. i hope that military and federal communication is faring better than the commercial sites. > All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations > are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just fine... deeann m.m. mikula director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200

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