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RE: ILEC Map
by Spencer.Wood＠dot.state.oh.us 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

If memory serves, Alltel has fully merged the old WRT company into it's organization, so it's really just Alltel... I'm noticing the same thing happening with Ameritech and SBC.....In the recent meetings we have had with Ameritech, they are now referring to them selves as SBC, along with SBC Business cards......I would be surprised if Ameritech exist in another 5 years.... ************************************************************ Spencer Wood, Network Manager Ohio Department Of Transportation 1320 Arthur E. Adams Drive Columbus, Ohio 43221 E-Mail: Spencer.Wood(a)dot.state.oh.us Phone: 614.387.0710/Fax: 815.361.0714/Pager: 866.591.9954 ************************************************************* "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net> Sent by: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu 03/11/2002 11:32 PM To: Mark Radabaugh <mark(a)amplex.net> cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: ILEC Map On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > Here is the map for Ohio: > http://www.puc.state.oh.us/pucogis/STATEMAP/AC_TelServAreaA.pdf > > Only 43 ILEC's here... Mark, I wouldn't expect you to know this, as you don't live in the proper part of the state to know the telco history here. :) But Western Reverse (er, Western Reserve) Telephone and Alltel are listed separately, and Alltel bought out Western Reserve years ago. Alltel has local headquarters out in Hudson, the former home of WRT. I suspect that a lot of states are like this, with the records reflecting more ILECs than actually still exist. Alltel has always done business as Alltel west of Cleveland (for example, in Elyria in Lorain County) but they may still be operating Western Reserve as a separate business unit covering the rural areas south and east of the city.. No big surprises here, really. Ameritech is the ILEC in the big cities, and much of the rest of the state is divvied up between Verizon and Sprint... If I actually had time to research it, I'd love to find out how many of the carriers listed on this PDF are still in business... -- Steve Sobol, Proud Native of the Great Frozen City of Cleveland, Ohio http://www.Cleveland.OH.US/ http://www.TravelCleveland.com/ http://www.LakeCountyOhio.org/ (Where the Snow is Cold but our Hearts Aren't!) CTO, JustThe.net LLC, Mentor On The Lake, Lake County, OH http://JustThe.net/

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Re: ILEC Map
by David Lesher 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Irwin Lazar wrote: > > Folks, > Is there a web site out there that provides a map of the united states > showing each ILEC and the states within their region (Bellsouth, SBC, Qwest, > & Verizon)? Since Verizontal owns GTE, it's non-trivial. GTE has parts of many many states. (MD is one of the few without same...). ISTM GTE is the sole carrier in Hawaii. Alaska? err.. You can swag by looking at older maps, and knowing that SBC = SWB+PacBell+Ameritech+SNET QWEST = USWorst Verizontal = C&P/BellAwful+Nynex+GTE BellSouth = BS I can never recall who owns Cincy Bell this week. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Enron Broadband bites the dust
by Eric Germann 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

http://www.msnbc.com/news/722584.asp Eric

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RE: ILEC Map
by Bender, Andrew 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

> -----Original Message----- > From: Irwin Lazar [mailto:ILazar@burtongroup.com] > > Folks, > Is there a web site out there that provides a map of the united states > showing each ILEC and the states within their region > (Bellsouth, SBC, Qwest, > & Verizon)? > The tools and information are readily available for the initiated; if you have access to a copy of Telcordia's LERG (http://www.telcordia.com/products_services/trainfo/catalog_details.html) and some GIS software, or equivalent (http://www.cdsys.com/telcom.htm) then you should be able to create what you need. Also, I think these folks at CCMI have already done this work, both in tabular and graphical format: http://www.ccmi.com/mapsdirectories.html Regards, Andrew Bender taqua.com

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Brain registry or Host registry?
by Paul Wouters 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Three weeks, seven tickets, and nine operators later it looks like I might actually have my host records NSG4447-HST and NSJ4375-HST updated in the next 48 hours. That's only 20 days after I've sent the first form, and 11 days since that old IP has been disconnected. In short my problem was that I used hostnames like ns.xtdnet.nl for com/net/org domains, registrered at NetSol. When NetSol split into the Baby Registrars they still "owned" those records. However, protocol for the people at NetSol (or Verisign or whatever) is that: "We do not change the ip numbers of foreign hosts unless they ar the ones that were registrered with us. Please inform customer that entries served as pointers that goes back to the nl registry for the correct ip addresses. Our whois database [they're referring to www.verisign-grs.com] is not athorativ for .nl" I spend the next 15 minutes telling them that nic.nl has no relation whatsoever to com/net/org/internic, and that netsol still had records of my stuff, that I wanted changed. When he wanted to point me to the nic.nl Registrars, I pointed out to him that _I_ was a Registrar of nic.nl. When finally guiding him to dutch only pages of www.nic.nl ('whois xtdnet.nl(a)whois.nic.nl' went beyond the skills of the NetSol escalation manager) and showing him the records for ns.xtdnet.nl, this guy suddenly went "Oh, we can mirror that......". *sigh* I can see a very scalable solution. "Let's manually change all modify requests for non com/net/org nameserver objects." That must be a very scalable solution. I bet they can get money from ICANN for doing that as well. No wonder RIR's are bailing out on all this crap. ObLessonLearned: For com/net/org, only use com/net/org based named for nameservers. Now I guess I have "24 upto 48 hours" to buy an M16 and fly to Virginia. And in the inifitesmall chance that somewhere on this list is someone from network solutions that actually understands more then the usual "we need to stall as many customers as long as we can for added shareholder value", you can have a look at my brand new shiny ticket of today's episode of NetSol, 1-17GPVQ. Paul, convinced that by the time he dies, Verisign will have problems doing his grave locatinregistration for the NL. -- "It takes a million monkeys at typewriters to write Shakespeare, but only a dozen monkeys at computers to run Network Solutions." --- Patrick Delahanty

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more info on SBC/Nap
by bmanning＠karoshi.com 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

I've just been told that SBC/PacBell is in process of renumbering the PacBell exchanges in Oakland and LA. So you should not see either 198.32.128.0 or 198.32.129.0 in your traceroutes or from your peers as of 28 feb 2002. --bill

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UUnet West Coast is down
by Rodney Joffe 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

It appears that UUNet has an outage in the SFO/SJC area. We're waiting for a master ticket, and an etr. -- Rodney Joffe CenterGate Research Group, LLC. http://www.centergate.com "Technology so advanced, even we don't understand it!"(R)

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freeipdb - experiences?
by Christian Kuhtz 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

anyone around here using it in an sp environment? care to share your experiences? personal reply is fine, i'll summarize. thanks, chris (yes, i'm aware of the freeipdb mailing lists)

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Problems with a black hole list in the netherlands
by Richard Irving 10 Mar '02

10 Mar '02

Hello, we are currently having a problem with a vigilante block list in the netherlands... I figure this is as good a forum as any.... >The boilerplate: >Please see <http://selwerd.cx/xbl/>, xbl is a *local* list, it would cost >us time to check whether we can whitelist your IP. Upon contacting this individual we get: >I listed the netblock(s) of your ISP because we get spam and >autoreplies from it and sometimes, if at all, mail that is readworthy. Of course, he can't produce -any- spam, or autoreply's, from our range.. or much of anything, really. Probably hit by a NIMBDA worm, or something. But, he has one of those "Unix Admin from H-ll" attitude's. Unprofessional, and Vigilante. How would one approach -this- ? I would ignore the fool, but his list is mentioned at Relays.OsiruSoft.com.... and some consider them as a valid source of data.... * sigh * Idea's ?

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The Cidr Report
by CIDR Report 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Mar 8 23:00:00 PST 2002 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html for a daily update of this report. NEW: Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report-region.html for the regional version of this report. NEW: Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/autnums.html for a complete list of autonomous system number to name mappings as used by the CIDR-Report. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to GX Networks for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to CIDR Report <cidr-report(a)cisco.com>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 08Mar02 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 010302 106896 020302 107000 030302 107010 040302 107088 050302 107144 060302 107315 070302 107121 080302 107198 Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr.plot.html for a plot of the table history. Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- *** Bogus 10.1.1.1/32 from AS(65301) *** Bogus 96.0.0.0/20 from AS3549 AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 12561 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 7642 (4326 cidr, 3316 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 747 announced by AS701 Largest number of classful routes: 1399 announced by AS701 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 08Mar02 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS701 1399 1135 264 18.9% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS1221 1137 880 257 22.6% Telstra Pty Ltd AS17557 232 98 134 57.8% Pakistan Telecom AS16473 198 77 121 61.1% Bell South AS7018 803 685 118 14.7% AT&T AS6595 174 60 114 65.5% DoD Education Activity Network As AS852 445 334 111 24.9% Telus Advanced Communications AS4151 254 149 105 41.3% USDA AS705 303 200 103 34.0% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS7046 348 246 102 29.3% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS577 291 195 96 33.0% Bell Advanced Communications Inc. AS19632 94 9 85 90.4% Metropolis Intercom S.A. AS2048 185 105 80 43.2% State of Louisiana AS12302 114 35 79 69.3% MobiFon S.A. AS9051 100 24 76 76.0% INCONET Autonomous System AS4323 422 347 75 17.8% Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS4755 219 146 73 33.3% Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonom AS1239 485 413 72 14.8% Sprint AS7303 118 53 65 55.1% Telecom Argentina Stet-France Tel AS3908 329 264 65 19.8% Supernet, Inc. AS16814 78 16 62 79.5% NSS, S.A. AS3464 157 97 60 38.2% Alabama SuperComputer Network AS724 214 156 58 27.1% DLA Systems Automation Center AS10620 79 21 58 73.4% TVCABLE BOGOTA AS1 478 420 58 12.1% BBN Planet AS16758 63 6 57 90.5% IKON Office Solutions AS19834 63 8 55 87.3% NetForce, Inc. AS702 592 539 53 9.0% UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS226 144 91 53 36.8% Los Nettos AS209 307 254 53 17.3% Qwest Total 54046 42027 12019 22.2% For the rest of the previous weeks gain information please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html 2) Weekly Delta Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report 3) Interesting aggregates Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report

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