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RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.
by Eric Germann 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

So you are suggesting going to http://ftp.apnic.net/stats/apnic/apnic-2002-04-01 (for example) and pulling out all ASN's from CN|HK|KR|MO and then going after them? > -----Original Message----- > From: Rouland, Chris (ISSAtlanta) [mailto:CRouland@iss.net] > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 3:14 PM > To: 'Chad Oleary'; Eric Germann > Cc: deepak(a)ai.net; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S. > > > That isn't very concise - I think you need to look at ASNs and BGP to make > sure netblocks aren't licensed cross-nation-state. IE New > Zealand uses some > KR netblocks, and if you go by an APNIC query you may cut-off some Kiwi's. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Oleary [mailto:col@pobox.com] > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 3:15 PM > To: Eric Germann > Cc: deepak(a)ai.net; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S. > > > This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet > Service. To view the original message content, open the > attached message. > If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to > disk, and then > open it using a viewer that can display the original character set. >

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KR assignments
by Peter Salus 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

If you go to //ftp.arin.net/pub/stats, you can pick up all three RIRs. Then grep for KR in APNIC. Voila! Peter

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RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.
by Deepak Jain 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

I'm happy to take the blame for the real problem. Exactly what am I taking the blame for? Deepak Jain AiNET -----Original Message----- From: todd glassey [mailto:todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:43 AM To: Joel Jaeggli; Deepak Jain Cc: blitz; nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Subject: Re: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S. SNIP- > > > We're off-topic, but I'd say that cyberterrorismis far less expensive to > > create than invasion or nuclear weapons. And they are much easier to stop. Just turn off the routers such that China is its own sealed-in infrastructure. But if its China's money you are after then you will have to build something akin to a "demarcation gateway" between China and the rest of the world and then who cares what is done inside China. Or you will ultimately be held liable for your custiomer's attacks against the rest of the world... You operators still dont seem to get that YOU are the real problem here. Todd Glassey > > > > Deepak Jain > > AiNET > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of > > blitz > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:33 PM > > To: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu > > Subject: RE: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S. > > > > > > > > I put nothing past them, of course theyre not alone, as we all must assume > > by now. > > Theyve threatened to nuke LA if we interfere with their plans to take > > Tiawan by force, and smile and say, kill 300 million of us, do us a favor. > > Kinda hard to deal with an enemy like that. > > > > At 18:01 4/25/02 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > >Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government would actively > > fund > > >cyberterrorism? > > > > > >Deepak Jain > > >AiNET > > > > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joel Jaeggli Academic User Services joelja(a)darkwing.uoregon.edu > -- PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -- > In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last > resort of the scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but > inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first. > -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" > > >

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Google doing regional preferencing on results?
by Avleen Vig 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Slightly off topic, maybe. It could certainly have an impact on Admins/Engs trying to gather data to fix a problem. Google is probably (imo) the most popular search engine (including things like being used by yahoo). Today I noticed it doing something rather strange.. it gives you different results depending on where in the world you search from. I've not seen this documented anywhere or heard of it before. If this was a known fact please feel free to shoot me out of the waters :) Example: Search for "Michael Coppins" (a friend of mine). If you search from a box in the UK, you get 'Michael Coppin's CV' (his resume). If you search from a box in any other country, you don't get it at all! Hmmm what's going on here? I certainly didn't go to www.google.co.uk to search. Even going to www.google.co.uk and searching for it doesn't bring up that link! Ok, so this isn't the North American Google Operator's Group, but still.. couldn't this potentially cause problems for everyone, especially us poor SA's trying to find the answers to problems. Has nayone else seen this 'google effect' ? -- Avleen Vig Work Time: Unix Systems Administrator Play Time: Network Security Officer Smurf Amplifier Finding Executive: http://www.ircnetops.org/smurf

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Cable & Wireless outage NYC 11:00 AM EDT
by Christopher X. Candreva 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

This was going to be a question, but now it's a statement. C&W had an outage in NYC around 11:00 AM this morning. 11:40 EDT and things seem to be comming back. C&W NOC was returning busy for about 10 minutes, then I was on hold for 1/2 hour, and they picked up just as traffic started flowing again. ========================================================== Chris Candreva -- chris(a)westnet.com -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/

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Odd UUNET BGP announcements for interior netblocks
by David G. Andersen 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

We periodically see UUNET suddenly leak large numbers of what I can only assume are interior routes, to quite a few peers, and then rapidly withdraw them: +---------------------+------+-------------------+------+--------+ | time | type | prefix | mask | aspath | +---------------------+------+-------------------+------+--------+ | 2002-04-24 03:20:50 | A | 208.254.255.0 | 24 | 1 701 | | 2002-04-24 03:22:14 | A | 208.254.255.0 | 24 | 1 701 | | 2002-04-24 03:22:36 | W | 208.254.255.0 | 24 | NULL | +---------------------+------+-------------------+------+--------+ ... now you see it, now you don't. A check with routeviews shows that we're not the only one seeing such things. For instance, from AT&T's perspective: +---------------------+--------+------+---------------+------+----------+ | time | src_as | type | prefix | mask | aspath | +---------------------+--------+------+---------------+------+----------+ | 2002-04-24 03:20:39 | 7018 | A | 208.254.255.0 | 24 | 7018 701 | | 2002-04-24 03:21:06 | 7018 | A | 208.254.255.0 | 24 | 7018 701 | | 2002-04-24 03:22:05 | 7018 | A | 208.254.255.0 | 24 | 7018 701 | | 2002-04-24 03:22:35 | 7018 | W | 208.254.255.0 | 24 | NULL | +---------------------+--------+------+---------------+------+----------+ These seem to happen about once a month or so, typically at odd hours. Is this a goof up, or some strange leakage during filter reconfiguration? Anyone from UUNET care to clue me in? Thanks, -Dave -- work: dga(a)lcs.mit.edu me: dga(a)pobox.com MIT Laboratory for Computer Science http://www.angio.net/

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RE: IS-IS information
by Irwin Lazar 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

see www.itprc.com/routing.htm for links to Cisco IS-IS configuration guides, protocol overviews, and other material. irwin -----Original Message----- From: Greg Pendergrass [mailto:greg@band-x.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:00 PM To: 'Nanog@Merit. Edu' Subject: IS-IS information What is a good reference for IS-IS and Integrated IS-IS? I'm looking for an overview of how the protocol works as well as specific vendors' implementations. Any suggestions? Greg

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anyone from PRTC ?
by Pascal Gloor 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

I m looking for anyone from PRTC (Puerto Rico Telecom) being able to tell me if there are knowns 'voice' routing problems from Puerto Rico to Switzerland.... People there always get 'quick busy tone' when they try to call any number in Switzerland.... Thanks, Pascal

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EDFA
by JAKO Andras 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Hello, A bit off-topic and maybe stupid question: I was told yesterday, that a Hungarian telco/ISP is experimenting with EDFAs. My friend said that the box looks like if they just brought it from a research lab (however it's a commercial product). How common is it nowadays to use EDFAs in ISP backbones? Please reply me off-list. Thanks. Andras

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MSNBC
by brandon＠rd.bbc.co.uk 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

> According to Reuters, MSNBC web site was offline for two hours Thursday > morning. > > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020425/wr_nm/tech_msnbc… "A spokesman for the site ... confirmed that the site had crashed for two hours but said the causes were still being investigated." http://www.msnbc.com/news/743492.asp "The Web news site experienced a "SYN" attack at 7:30 a.m. ET that caused its content to be unavailable to users, according to MSNBC.com's technical production staff."

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