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Niagara Falls cheapie trip
by Simon Lockhart 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

All, For those of you going to NANOG25, I'm planning on driving up from the hotel to Niagara Falls for a bit of a tourist on Saturday. A few people have expressed an interest in doing likewise. In the interests of doing a bit of co-ordination, can I suggest we meet at 10am in the hotel foyer, and head off from there. If people want to email me privately, I'll collect a list of who has got cars and who needs a lift, but I can't help resolve mismatch of numbers! Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart(a)bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/

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Bogon list
by Rob Thomas 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

Hi, folks. For a while folks have asked me to add an aggregated ACL, prefix-list, or black hole routes to the various templates on my site. I've avoided this for a variety of reasons, and decided to create the best of all worlds - the bogon list. :) This list includes the bogons, in both aggregated and non-aggregated form. The list includes bit notation, dotted decimal, and Cisco ACL styles. This is handy for blocking the bogons, egress and ingress, at your borders. Take a peek at it here: http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html Comments and feedback are VERY welcome! Be the first in your ASN to join the CREDITS section. :) Thanks! Rob. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);

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Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
by Jesper Skriver 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 07:25:47PM +0200, Daniel Diaz wrote: > Dear all, > > > Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility of its > services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in agreement with > KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this server (ns.eu.net) in its > premises. > > This is to avoid major problems in the Internet as this server is > secondary for a large number of ccTLD's zones, and thousand other > zones. > > We (AS3333) will be soon announcing the 192.16.202.0/24 prefix. TDC is currently secondary for the dk TLD, if any other TLD need a secondary, please contact hostmaster(a)tele.dk and/or tgm(a)tdcinternet.dk best regards /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

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Re: Bogon list
by smd＠clock.org 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

| While on the subject of IXP blocks, we also ended up redistributing the | IXP blocks and sending them to our BGP customers (who do not receive a | default) so that traceroutes and such from Looking Glasses do not break. | They can then choose to filter them as they wish. This is backwards. Do not break the architecture to fix a broken looking glass (or to work around bad interpretations of real-world traceroute results). Spend a few minutes scripting your looking glass software so that if it sees a well-known target, or an expected real-world result (1918 addresses that YOU are using, with expected ttl-distance), it returns a "sanitized" result to a naive looking glass user. I wonder if there exists the possibility of a useful (perhaps open source) generalized expert system to interpret traceroute data? "configure; make; make install" is probably even easier than breaking one's filter lists to leak prefixes all over the place. Sean. (that was a hint. you know who you are.)

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IP renumbering timeframe
by Ralph Doncaster 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

We entered into a contract with Cogent for service, and were assigned a /22 for our use. This reassignment was listed in Cogent's rwhois server (they don't SWIP). They also gave written permission to another transit provider (Peer1) to accept our BGP announcements for the /22. We have been announcing them to our Peer1 and over a dozen peers for a few months now. After paying Cogent $11K, a billing dispute developed. On Friday May 3 we terminated our service with Cogent, and on May 5 Cogent contacted our main internet connection provder to stop routing these IPs. Cogent did not contact us first. There is still an RADB entry for this block with our AS21936 as the origin. Under pressure from Cogent Peer1 complied, though I think I have them convinced that a few hours notice on a Sunday evg is not a reasonable amount of time to renumber from a /22. What is the generally accpted timeframe for renumbering? My reading of ARIN policy would seem to imply at least 30 days. Ralph Doncaster principal, IStop.com div. of Doncaster Consulting Inc.

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New mailing list for Verizon DSL ISP's
by Christopher X. Candreva 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

Since a discussion of NAS/CAIS DSL came up last week, I am assuming there are at least some DSL resellers out there, so . . . Verizon had a converence call for the Northeast ISPs this afternoon to introduce a new product. It began with them explaining to us why our customers might want a static IP and went downhill from there. This did however get me in touch with at least one other ISP reselling Verizon DSL, and it seems we've both thought some sort of forum for Verizon reselling ISPs to ask questions and discuss issues would be helpfull. SO -- I've created a mailing list, verizonisp(a)westnet.com . To subscribe, send the single word subscribe to verizonisp-request(a)westnet.com This is intended as a forum for Verizon DSL resellers across the country to disccus an issues related to the service: Configuration, operation, trouble resolution, dealing with Verizon, etc. This is completely unofficial, not sanctioned by Verizon . ========================================================== Chris Candreva -- chris(a)westnet.com -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/

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Internet Routing Registry Help Desk at NANOG 25
by Larry J. Blunk 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

Merit RADB technical staff will be hosting an Internet Routing Registry (IRR) Help Desk at NANOG 25. The desk will be staffed on Sunday 7:00 - 9:30PM, and from 1:00 - 1:30PM and during breaks on Monday and Tuesday. A list of potential discussion topics are included below -- -- General IRR topics * RPSL concepts and usage * Benefits of using the IRR * Using PGP and CRYPT-PW authentication * Using the IRR to configure routers -- RADB/IRRd specific topics * Registering for RADB service * Updating/Removing your RADB objects for consistency * Determining the status of your RADB registration and objects * RADB billing questions and issues * Status of the RADB clean-up * Feedback on the RADB service * Demo of upcoming RADB web interface for updates * IRRd software questions and feedback In addition, RIPE NCC technical staff will be available Sunday from 7:00 - 9:30 PM to accept feedback and questions on the IRRToolSet. For further information or questions, please contact db-admin(a)merit.edu. -Larry J. Blunk Merit

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Re: Automated Reply: OT: Re: Bogon list
by Scott Francis 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:18:58PM -0400, MSAutoReply(a)morganstanley.com said: > This is an auto-generated system message. Please do not reply to this > address. [snip legalese] Whoever this is, will you PLEASE fix your auto-noise generator to not pollute mailing lists? Apologies to the list for the (twice-) wasted bandwidth; I have no other way to contact the person in question. Yes, I realize this just generated another auto-reply. *sigh* -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui

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Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
by John L Crain 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

Very welcome, Thanks for this Dani it gives everyone much more breathing space. I think this a fantastic effort on behalf of the NCC, the folks at eu.net and anyone else involved, they should all be applauded for it. A few logistical questions that may be relevant to those affected. Is there a projected time when this service may be discontinued? I can imagine that the RIPE NCC doesn't want to indefinitely run secondary for end sites? If not: This is in the same AS as ns.ripe.net. Is it also physically on the same infrastructure? What I guess I'm asking is: To what extent do those using both ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net have redundancy between the two servers? JC At 07:25 PM 6/5/2002 +0200, Daniel Diaz wrote: >Dear all, > > >Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility >of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in >agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this >server (ns.eu.net) in its premises. > >This is to avoid major problems in the Internet as this server >is secondary for a large number of ccTLD's zones, and thousand >other zones. > >We (AS3333) will be soon announcing the 192.16.202.0/24 prefix. > > >Trusting that this is welcome news. > >Best regards. > >-- >RIPE NCC > > >-- >Daniel.Diaz >Operations Manager >RIPE NCC

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Route Authentication Request Results
by Barbara Fraser 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

Thanks to all the people who responded to your question about the use of BGP-MD5 and/or OSPF/IS_IS MD5. I'm collating the responses today and will send a summary to the list. Barb Barbara Fraser Consulting Engineer Cisco Systems, Inc. Phone: +1 (408) 525-1735

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